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How can religions evangelize in schools?

Student groups
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Mon May 18, 2020 4:14 am

Eudea wrote:
Region of Dwipantara wrote:Depend on the definition of 'protect'. For the majority of us, it meant "protect any religion from being quashed by the state". For him, maybe "greatly support a very specific strain of a specific religion using taxpayer's money at the expense of the rest of the non-Catholic majority whose belief is quashed by government power."


I personally see it more as protecting the citizenry and the state from religious fanaticism infesting government policy.

It goes both way, which is why secularism is objectively better for civilization.
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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:15 am

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Polding wrote:Do you not realise this irony? The point?


Do you realize how nobody here gives a dime about your words? :twisted:

No word is worth any, least are mine, and they’re wasted here on whoever these fools! fools! fools! believe will listen. Earnestly to challenge they rise, they do; earnestly they are lead this way and that, they do; earnestly they fall in hole, they do!
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Postby Albrenia » Mon May 18, 2020 4:16 am

I mean, I sort of prefer it if the silly religious fanatics speak like the villains in a children's cartoon.

Hard to take someone seriously when they talk like that, even if they -are- gleefully twirling their moustache and salivating at the prospect of their fictional dad beating up my fictional... not-dad.

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Postby SangMar » Mon May 18, 2020 4:16 am

Polding wrote:
Eudea wrote:
All I see is a religious fanatic rambling on about superstitious nonsense. No offence, of course.

I have no point, I am an ass! Beyond the first, it means nothing; I am dumb! You say that my posts are rambling, superstitious nonsense. It is a correct observation, for the most part, but ironic: all that you have uttered in this thread is nonsense too. You earnestly, like a dog, argue with me and others on an internet forum, extolling yourself as well-read like a peacock, yet you’ve achieved nothing and I have your attention; I am a troll!

I could entertain you by replying cohesively, but that’d be beside the point. Fool! Fool! Fool!


Polding, relax.

Old JC and I have smoked some thick joints in our time. On one occasion, we even got his decrepit old man to smoke a few with us. He was chilled after all of that, he even admitted that he hadn’t got any real power...

Oh, and Lucifer? Man.

Those two are good buddies, the whole bible bullshit - shit book, worst fiction I’ve ever read, was just a massive insurance fraud plot. When everyone else heard about that, God and Satan got fucked - (both figuratively and literally) - they were finished. They also realised that they lusted after each other. So there’s also that.
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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:17 am

Instead there is only One Word of any value, listen to it! Do not tarry here, you waste your good time and profit nothing. Lead astray by the likes of me.
O reader, understand the rankness of your devouring belly; For it is that which you now smell in your putrid [poo]. Therefore, leave off feeding the gluttony of your belly; And in good time let the sober life return to you.

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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:19 am

Albrenia wrote:I mean, I sort of prefer it if the silly religious fanatics speak like the villains in a children's cartoon.

Hard to take someone seriously when they talk like that, even if they -are- gleefully twirling their moustache and salivating at the prospect of their fictional dad beating up my fictional... not-dad.

You make me look cooler than I am, when I live under a bridge and harass passerbys!
O reader, understand the rankness of your devouring belly; For it is that which you now smell in your putrid [poo]. Therefore, leave off feeding the gluttony of your belly; And in good time let the sober life return to you.

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Postby Eudea » Mon May 18, 2020 4:19 am

Region of Dwipantara wrote:
Eudea wrote:
I personally see it more as protecting the citizenry and the state from religious fanaticism infesting government policy.

It goes both way, which is why secularism is objectively better for civilization.


Aye, that it is.
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Mon May 18, 2020 4:19 am

Polding wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Do you realize how nobody here gives a dime about your words? :twisted:

No word is worth any, least are mine, and they’re wasted here on whoever these fools! fools! fools! believe will listen. Earnestly to challenge they rise, they do; earnestly they are lead this way and that, they do; earnestly they fall in hole, they do!

I mean, people who has the time to debate here are probably bored gabut nerds who has nothing better to do during the quarantine. But good thing to know that Yahweh isn't being defended by anything serious anymore.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon May 18, 2020 4:19 am

Polding wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I mean, I sort of prefer it if the silly religious fanatics speak like the villains in a children's cartoon.

Hard to take someone seriously when they talk like that, even if they -are- gleefully twirling their moustache and salivating at the prospect of their fictional dad beating up my fictional... not-dad.

You make me look cooler than I am, when I live under a bridge and harass passerbys!


What can I say, I'm a generous and humble man at heart. :p

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Postby SangMar » Mon May 18, 2020 4:20 am

Polding wrote:Instead there is only One Word of any value, listen to it! Do not tarry here, you waste your good time and profit nothing. Lead astray by the likes of me.


Yes. It’s my word, I am the master of my own destiny - and everyone shall listen to either me, or their own selves. Because, everyone has free will - and believing in a bullshit fairy tale isn’t it.
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While my sig is mostly jest, and I do not want to harm those who are tankies, let me say this: If you’re the type to talk about “fash” or “bashing the fash” yet refuse to criticise the crimes of Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao, then you need to take a long, hard fucking look at yourself. Because you ARE the thing you want to “bash”, even if you dress it up in a different skin.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon May 18, 2020 4:20 am

Region of Dwipantara wrote:
Polding wrote:No word is worth any, least are mine, and they’re wasted here on whoever these fools! fools! fools! believe will listen. Earnestly to challenge they rise, they do; earnestly they are lead this way and that, they do; earnestly they fall in hole, they do!

I mean, people who has the time to debate here are probably bored gabut nerds who has nothing better to do during the quarantine. But good thing to know that Yahweh isn't being defended by anything serious anymore.


I don't even know what a Gabut is but I'm most certainly a bored nerd right now.

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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:21 am

Region of Dwipantara wrote:
Polding wrote:No word is worth any, least are mine, and they’re wasted here on whoever these fools! fools! fools! believe will listen. Earnestly to challenge they rise, they do; earnestly they are lead this way and that, they do; earnestly they fall in hole, they do!

I mean, people who has the time to debate here are probably bored gabut nerds who has nothing better to do during the quarantine. But good thing to know that Yahweh isn't being defended by anything serious anymore.

There is still time! Time still! Tarry thou the Lord’s leisure!
O reader, understand the rankness of your devouring belly; For it is that which you now smell in your putrid [poo]. Therefore, leave off feeding the gluttony of your belly; And in good time let the sober life return to you.

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Postby Kernen » Mon May 18, 2020 4:21 am

Polding wrote:Instead there is only One Word of any value, listen to it! Do not tarry here, you waste your good time and profit nothing. Lead astray by the likes of me.

Ah, yes. You must mean my man Tupac, for his word truly leads us to enlightenment.
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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:22 am

Albrenia wrote:
Polding wrote:You make me look cooler than I am, when I live under a bridge and harass passerbys!


What can I say, I'm a generous and humble man at heart. :p

:p
O reader, understand the rankness of your devouring belly; For it is that which you now smell in your putrid [poo]. Therefore, leave off feeding the gluttony of your belly; And in good time let the sober life return to you.

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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:25 am

SangMar wrote:
Polding wrote:Instead there is only One Word of any value, listen to it! Do not tarry here, you waste your good time and profit nothing. Lead astray by the likes of me.


Yes. It’s my word, I am the master of my own destiny - and everyone shall listen to either me, or their own selves. Because, everyone has free will - and believing in a bullshit fairy tale isn’t it.

Your destiny is your own, leap shark! But the path is not your own, leap dark! Indeed, there is nothing new under the sun...
O reader, understand the rankness of your devouring belly; For it is that which you now smell in your putrid [poo]. Therefore, leave off feeding the gluttony of your belly; And in good time let the sober life return to you.

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Postby Eudea » Mon May 18, 2020 4:28 am

Mhn. Getting back onto the topic of religion in school, what might be best in regards to religious attire and accessories either of a religious nature or with religious iconography?
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Postby Kernen » Mon May 18, 2020 4:29 am

Eudea wrote:Mhn. Getting back onto the topic of religion in school, what might be best in regards to religious attire and accessories either of a religious nature or with religious iconography?

Tinker v. Des Moins covers this pretty well. Ok unless its disruptive.
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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:33 am

Kernen wrote:
Eudea wrote:Mhn. Getting back onto the topic of religion in school, what might be best in regards to religious attire and accessories either of a religious nature or with religious iconography?

Tinker v. Des Moins covers this pretty well. Ok unless its disruptive.

What godliness is not disruptive to the servants of the Devil? Secularism seeks to make whores out of girls and women out of men... :bow:
O reader, understand the rankness of your devouring belly; For it is that which you now smell in your putrid [poo]. Therefore, leave off feeding the gluttony of your belly; And in good time let the sober life return to you.

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Postby Eudea » Mon May 18, 2020 4:34 am

Kernen wrote:
Eudea wrote:Mhn. Getting back onto the topic of religion in school, what might be best in regards to religious attire and accessories either of a religious nature or with religious iconography?

Tinker v. Des Moins covers this pretty well. Ok unless its disruptive.


I’m not American so I don’t know what that is unfortunately. But I think I get what it covers.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon May 18, 2020 4:34 am

Polding wrote:
Kernen wrote:Tinker v. Des Moins covers this pretty well. Ok unless its disruptive.

What godliness is not disruptive to the servants of the Devil? Secularism seeks to make whores out of girls and women out of men... :bow:


Damn. I'm doing it wrong then.

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Postby Kernen » Mon May 18, 2020 4:36 am

Polding wrote:
Kernen wrote:Tinker v. Des Moins covers this pretty well. Ok unless its disruptive.

What godliness is not disruptive to the servants of the Devil? Secularism seeks to make whores out of girls and women out of men... :bow:


If only.
Eudea wrote:
Kernen wrote:Tinker v. Des Moins covers this pretty well. Ok unless its disruptive.


I’m not American so I don’t know what that is unfortunately. But I think I get what it covers.


It's a lot of words to say Disruptive to Learning = Unprotected Speech. Religious garb, iirc, is basically the same. I always felt it made a strong policy point.
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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:37 am

Albrenia wrote:
Polding wrote:What godliness is not disruptive to the servants of the Devil? Secularism seeks to make whores out of girls and women out of men... :bow:


Damn. I'm doing it wrong then.

The blind cannot often see.
O reader, understand the rankness of your devouring belly; For it is that which you now smell in your putrid [poo]. Therefore, leave off feeding the gluttony of your belly; And in good time let the sober life return to you.

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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:38 am

‘If only,’ he says. But truly he trembles! For though his heart hath hardened, still do whispers reach his ear.
O reader, understand the rankness of your devouring belly; For it is that which you now smell in your putrid [poo]. Therefore, leave off feeding the gluttony of your belly; And in good time let the sober life return to you.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon May 18, 2020 4:39 am

Polding wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Damn. I'm doing it wrong then.

The blind cannot often see.


I mean, you're not technically wrong. There is a strong correlation between blindness and lack of sight.

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Postby Polding » Mon May 18, 2020 4:41 am

Albrenia wrote:
Polding wrote:The blind cannot often see.


I mean, you're not technically wrong. There is a strong correlation between blindness and lack of sight.

All that sleep will be awakened; if that be the Death of them? So be it.
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O reader, understand the rankness of your devouring belly; For it is that which you now smell in your putrid [poo]. Therefore, leave off feeding the gluttony of your belly; And in good time let the sober life return to you.

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