Should Religions Be Taught in Schools?

[Hillary Clinton 2016-2024]

So hat are people's opinion on teaching about cults? Do you think it can be done in an unbiased way? Do you think it should be taught about in schools to protect children?

Depends. Some are obvious scams like Scientology and others are just clear attempts at manipulation, but especially in old pagan faiths cults were neither of those, so it ought to be taught how to recognize a fraud from a legitimate group of weirdos.

[La Xinga]

Ok, you're right, you guessed it, you got it. The only thing I have against science is time, that's it. It's possible the big bang could've happened, as the Gemara (Talmud) does say there were other worlds, but G-d destroyed them. Does this mean dinos existed and G-d sent and asteroid to destroy em', I don't know.

What's the issue with science and time? You're still going with the idea of creationism presented in Genesis as if it is literally true?

Yes I am, as every person of my religion I met in RL taught me that.

[Neutraligon]

I've seen little if any comment on Jesus, if I recall correctly, and the G_d thing isn't oft encountered elsewhere. Are there any Christian sects that do that?

I've generally avoided talk on that, you now see why.

...I am Jewish or rather was raised Jewish, I have friends who are orthodox Jews. Neither your language nor your claims are representative of typical orthodox Jews.

Rashi? The third sentence in Kedoshim. RASHI says on the words "Ani Hashem Elokeichem":

"You should not listen to your parents if they contradict G-d's word. What is fear? Don't sit in his place, don't don't speak in his place, and don't contradict his word. What does respect mean? Giving him food and drink, getting him dressed and putting on his shoes, escorting him in and escorting him out.

I very much doubt that the use of the term Rashi used, and the term used in English are the same. Kinda the issue with translations.

[Estanglia]

So hat are people's opinion on teaching about cults? Do you think it can be done in an unbiased way? Do you think it should be taught about in schools to protect children?

Interesting question.

I'm not sure about teaching about a specific cult, but I think teaching about "how to identify if something is a cult" could be something taught in some sort of general Society/Bias/Safety class, to try to protect people from falling into a cult (or equivalent manipulative and abusive groups/relationships).

[Neutraligon]

So hat are people's opinion on teaching about cults? Do you think it can be done in an unbiased way? Do you think it should be taught about in schools to protect children?

Interesting question.

I'm not sure about teaching about a specific cult, but I think teaching about "how to identify if something is a cult" could be something taught in some sort of general Society/Bias/Safety class, to try to protect people from falling into a cult (or equivalent manipulative and abusive groups/relationships).

Identifying something as a cult is not cut and dry though. I mean some are obvious, but...is Mormonism a cult?

[Dylar]

Depends on how we define cult. For instance I define Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons as Christian Cults rather than denominations.

BITE model maybe? I do not think that cult is black or white.

Yeah, I guess the BITE model works. Back to the original question, yes I do think that schools should teach about cults. Although I don't really think there would be an unbiased way of teaching about them. I mean all the facts and eyewitness accounts of infamous cults like Heaven's Gate would most likely generate hatred against those cults even if it was presented in an unbiased fashion.

[Washington Resistance Army]

So hat are people's opinion on teaching about cults? Do you think it can be done in an unbiased way? Do you think it should be taught about in schools to protect children?

Depends on what you're defining "cults" as really.

[La Xinga]

I've generally avoided talk on that, you now see why.

Rashi? The third sentence in Kedoshim. RASHI says on the words "Ani Hashem Elokeichem":

"You should not listen to your parents if they contradict G-d's word. What is fear? Don't sit in his place, don't don't speak in his place, and don't contradict his word. What does respect mean? Giving him food and drink, getting him dressed and putting on his shoes, escorting him in and escorting him out.

I very much doubt that the use of the term Rashi used, and the term used in English are the same. Kinda the issue with translations.

Which word?

[Godular]

What's the issue with science and time? You're still going with the idea of creationism presented in Genesis as if it is literally true?

Yes I am, as every person of my religion I met in RL taught me that.

Those people in your religion taught you incorrectly. They were insecure in their own faith, and you have paid the price for their flaw.

[Dylar]

Interesting question.

I'm not sure about teaching about a specific cult, but I think teaching about "how to identify if something is a cult" could be something taught in some sort of general Society/Bias/Safety class, to try to protect people from falling into a cult (or equivalent manipulative and abusive groups/relationships).

Identifying something as a cult is not cut and dry though. I mean some are obvious, but...is Mormonism a cult?

I consider it one, but only because they do not believe in the Trinity. And their prohibition on coffee. That's what I use to separate it from other Christian denominations.

[Godular]

BITE model maybe? I do not think that cult is black or white.

Yeah, I guess the BITE model works. Back to the original question, yes I do think that schools should teach about cults. Although I don't really think there would be an unbiased way of teaching about them. I mean all the facts and eyewitness accounts of infamous cults like Heaven's Gate would most likely generate hatred against those cults even if it was presented in an unbiased fashion.

I'd say that teaching about cults could actually fall into a class on critical thinking.

[Purple Rats]

So hat are people's opinion on teaching about cults? Do you think it can be done in an unbiased way? Do you think it should be taught about in schools to protect children?

Not in same level as religions. As I think religions should be thought in unbiased way just as theories... Cults, could be taught as short lesson, how a cult works, some examples of a cults, and so on... I think it's impossible to know about every cult existence, and even if it would be possible, it would not give so important knowledge as it would about religions.

I think it's more important to know how to recognize a cult and how cults can be dangerous, not their ideology. So I guess it would be biased way.

But yeah, it really depends how you define a cult.

[La Xinga]

Yes I am, as every person of my religion I met in RL taught me that.

Those people in your religion taught you incorrectly. They were insecure in their own faith, and you have paid the price for their flaw.

I don't think so.

[Dylar]

So hat are people's opinion on teaching about cults? Do you think it can be done in an unbiased way? Do you think it should be taught about in schools to protect children?

Not in same level as religions. As I think religions should be thought in unbiased way just as theories... Cults, could be taught as short lesson, how a cult works, some examples of a cults, and so on... I think it's impossible to know about every cult existence, and even if it would be possible, it would not give so important knowledge as it would about religions.

I think it's more important to know how to recognize a cult and how cults can be dangerous, not their ideology. So I guess it would be biased way.

But yeah, it really depends how you define a cult.

Gotta admit that cults would be a nice psychology, or sociology lesson.

[Godular]

Those people in your religion taught you incorrectly. They were insecure in their own faith, and you have paid the price for their flaw.

I don't think so.

That makes it even more saddening.

[Albrenia]

Not in same level as religions. As I think religions should be thought in unbiased way just as theories... Cults, could be taught as short lesson, how a cult works, some examples of a cults, and so on... I think it's impossible to know about every cult existence, and even if it would be possible, it would not give so important knowledge as it would about religions.

I think it's more important to know how to recognize a cult and how cults can be dangerous, not their ideology. So I guess it would be biased way.

But yeah, it really depends how you define a cult.

Gotta admit that cults would be a nice psychology, or sociology lesson.

Indeed. I've got a half-read book lying around somewhere written by an expert on the topic, and this makes me want to pick it up again.

Dude who wrote it used to be a Moonie.

[Rojava Free State]

So hat are people's opinion on teaching about cults? Do you think it can be done in an unbiased way? Do you think it should be taught about in schools to protect children?

Depends. Some are obvious scams like Scientology and others are just clear attempts at manipulation, but especially in old pagan faiths cults were neither of those, so it ought to be taught how to recognize a fraud from a legitimate group of weirdos.

Pagans are no weirder than christians.

[La Xinga]

I don't think so.

That makes it even more saddening.

It's okay. Now I really need to go. Beofre I said that, didn't end up happening, but now it's getting late. Good night.

[Rojava Free State]

What's the issue with science and time? You're still going with the idea of creationism presented in Genesis as if it is literally true?

Yes I am, as every person of my religion I met in RL taught me that.

That doesn't make them right.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Depends. Some are obvious scams like Scientology and others are just clear attempts at manipulation, but especially in old pagan faiths cults were neither of those, so it ought to be taught how to recognize a fraud from a legitimate group of weirdos.

Pagans are no weirder than christians.

Unless they're folkish "pagans". Fuck them entirely.

[Godular]

That makes it even more saddening.

It's okay.

It isn't. It really is not at all okay.

[Minimark]

Yes but as neutral as possible. Philosophy should also be taught, along with debate. These criticals things of thinking and objective reasoning are critical for students to make informed decisions and never settle for the bare minimum.

[Rojava Free State]

Pagans are no weirder than christians.

Unless they're folkish "pagans". Fuck them entirely.

Are we talking about nazi pagans?

[Dylar]

Depends. Some are obvious scams like Scientology and others are just clear attempts at manipulation, but especially in old pagan faiths cults were neither of those, so it ought to be taught how to recognize a fraud from a legitimate group of weirdos.

Pagans are no weirder than christians.

Debatable.

[Rojava Free State]

Pagans are no weirder than christians.

Debatable.

Why?