Should Religions Be Taught in Schools?

[La Xinga]

They DID create you, and considering it seems you're Athiest, you would've never existed if not for them. If you're religious, they defend you in the heavenly court. Either way, you should respect them.

Okay, story time.

My grandpa is a very religious man. However he had a messed up childhood. When he was born, his mother died of internal hemorrhaging. Because of this, his father blamed him for his mother's death and until he was about 5 years old he was subjected to physical abuse from both his father and his step-mother. Like I'm talking about lighting matches underneath his fingernails level of abuse. Eventually his parents got caught and he was adopted by another family. Should he respect and honor his real parents even though they did that to him?

His mother, for sure. His father? He should at least respect him above other beings. That's what I think, you may disagree.

[Neutraligon]

Okay, story time.

My grandpa is a very religious man. However he had a messed up childhood. When he was born, his mother died of internal hemorrhaging. Because of this, his father blamed him for his mother's death and until he was about 5 years old he was subjected to physical abuse from both his father and his step-mother. Like I'm talking about lighting matches underneath his fingernails level of abuse. Eventually his parents got caught and he was adopted by another family. Should he respect and honor his real parents even though they did that to him?

His mother, for sure. His father? He should at least respect him above other beings. That's what I think, you may disagree.

I think I am going to throwup.
Actually, tell me, how do you define the word respect?

[Godular]

They DID create you, and considering it seems you're Athiest, you would've never existed if not for them. If you're religious, they defend you in the heavenly court. Either way, you should respect them.

Okay, story time.

My grandpa is a very religious man. However he had a messed up childhood. When he was born, his mother died of internal hemorrhaging. Because of this, his father blamed him for his mother's death and until he was about 5 years old he was subjected to physical abuse from both his father and his step-mother. Like I'm talking about lighting matches underneath his fingernails level of abuse. Eventually his parents got caught and he was adopted by another family. Should he respect and honor his real parents even though they did that to him?

Damn... that's one of those stories that I can only wish never had to exist.

[Kernen]

So she can be that way, hope it does not last for that long. Especially since they ARE her parents.

You know most people do not revere their parents right?

My parents are amazing, and I have grown up well with their guidance. They taught me to be open minded and generally kind.

But if they were total idiots who stunted my growth and wanted me to be an ignorant fool, I would have no issue disallowing them. Just because they created me does not give them immunity from criticism nor does it entitle them to my worship.

Many parents do not deserve even contact, let alone reverence.

[La Xinga]

His mother, for sure. His father? He should at least respect him above other beings. That's what I think, you may disagree.

I think I am going to throwup.
Actually, tell me, how do you define the word respect?

What I learned from a certain holy book, giving them food and drink, escorting them, those stuff. If he would get tortured, you should try to avoid that, but don't attack him.

You know most people do not revere their parents right?

My parents are amazing, and I have grown up well with their guidance. They taught me to be open minded and generally kind.

But if they were total idiots who stunted my growth and wanted me to be an ignorant fool, I would have no issue disallowing them. Just because they created me does not give them immunity from criticism nor does it entitle them to my worship.

Many parents do not deserve even contact, let alone reverence.

What? Why?

[Neutraligon]

I think I am going to throwup.
Actually, tell me, how do you define the word respect?

What I learned from a certain holy book, giving them food and drink, escorting them, those stuff. If he would get tortured, you should try to avoid that, but don't attack him.

Many parents do not deserve even contact, let alone reverence.

What? Why?

It seems you and most other people on this website are working from completely different definitions. Your definitions are most certainly not the ones in common use.

[Dylar]

I think I am going to throwup.
Actually, tell me, how do you define the word respect?

What I learned from a certain holy book, giving them food and drink, escorting them, those stuff. If he would get tortured, you should try to avoid that, but don't attack him.

That's not respect...that's charity

[Kernen]

Many parents do not deserve even contact, let alone reverence.

What? Why?

Because they do not act in a way conducive to healthy contact, and as such, do not deserve contact.

[DarKspawnerreich]

I think I am going to throwup.
Actually, tell me, how do you define the word respect?

What I learned from a certain holy book, giving them food and drink, escorting them, those stuff. If he would get tortured, you should try to avoid that, but don't attack him.

Many parents do not deserve even contact, let alone reverence.

What? Why?

Let me list off some reasons.

1. Abuse
2. Complete absence
3. Look at the previous 2 and all their forms

[La Xinga]

What I learned from a certain holy book, giving them food and drink, escorting them, those stuff. If he would get tortured, you should try to avoid that, but don't attack him.

That's not respect...that's charity

I consider it that, you consider it what you want.

What I learned from a certain holy book, giving them food and drink, escorting them, those stuff. If he would get tortured, you should try to avoid that, but don't attack him.
What? Why?

It seems you and most other people on this website are working from completely different definitions. Your definitions are most certainly not the ones in common use.

I learn these stuff from religious stuff, so that may be why.

Many parents do not deserve even contact, let alone reverence.

What? Why?

Because they do not act in a way conducive to healthy contact, and as such, do not deserve contact.[/quote]
That doesn't mean they are evil.

[Europa Undivided]

If it's a private school. Yah.

Public? Teacher's discretion.

[Jedi Council]

Okay, story time.

My grandpa is a very religious man. However he had a messed up childhood. When he was born, his mother died of internal hemorrhaging. Because of this, his father blamed him for his mother's death and until he was about 5 years old he was subjected to physical abuse from both his father and his step-mother. Like I'm talking about lighting matches underneath his fingernails level of abuse. Eventually his parents got caught and he was adopted by another family. Should he respect and honor his real parents even though they did that to him?

His mother, for sure. His father? He should at least respect him above other beings. That's what I think, you may disagree.

Not only do I disagree, I find your opinion disgusting, reprehensible, and utterly abhorrent. It is a horrible opinion, one that indicates either a total lack of empathy or just a complete lack of morality.

You should go talk to some people who have experienced child abuse. You might learn something.

[La Xinga]

What I learned from a certain holy book, giving them food and drink, escorting them, those stuff. If he would get tortured, you should try to avoid that, but don't attack him.
What? Why?

Let me list off some reasons.

1. Abuse
2. Complete absence
3. Look at the previous 2 and all their forms

Are you everyone? I'm really confused, you're Kernen too?

[Kernen]

That doesn't mean they are evil.

One need not be evil to not deserve contact.

[La Xinga]

That doesn't mean they are evil.

One need not be evil to not deserve contact.

Yes, but you at least don't make fun of them, right?

[Neutraligon]

That's not respect...that's charity

I consider it that, you consider it what you want.

It seems you and most other people on this website are working from completely different definitions. Your definitions are most certainly not the ones in common use.

I learn these stuff from religious stuff, so that may be why.

Because they do not act in a way conducive to healthy contact, and as such, do not deserve contact.

That doesn't mean they are evil.

Which religious stuff did you learn that from? Which religion for that matter please be specific. Everything you are saying by the way is pointing to religions not being evangelized in schools. Your very issues with vocabulary are a good reason not to.

[DarKspawnerreich]

Let me list off some reasons.

1. Abuse
2. Complete absence
3. Look at the previous 2 and all their forms

Are you everyone? I'm really confused, you're Kernen too?

I literally linked posts of a conversation you and I had months ago

[Dylar]

Okay, story time.

My grandpa is a very religious man. However he had a messed up childhood. When he was born, his mother died of internal hemorrhaging. Because of this, his father blamed him for his mother's death and until he was about 5 years old he was subjected to physical abuse from both his father and his step-mother. Like I'm talking about lighting matches underneath his fingernails level of abuse. Eventually his parents got caught and he was adopted by another family. Should he respect and honor his real parents even though they did that to him?

Damn... that's one of those stories that I can only wish never had to exist.

Unfortunately most of my family has stories similar to this. Not quite as bad, but still...

[La Xinga]

Are you everyone? I'm really confused, you're Kernen too?

I literally linked posts of a conversation you and I had months ago

Who are you? I've never seen you in October? Were you that Poland dude? I'm REALLY confused.

I consider it that, you consider it what you want.
I learn these stuff from religious stuff, so that may be why.
That doesn't mean they are evil.

Which religious stuff did you learn that from?

That's a tricky subject, I don't want to say what my religion is, even though it's pretty easy to figure it out.

[Dylar]

Which religious stuff did you learn that from?

That's a tricky subject, I don't want to say what my religion is, even though it's pretty easy to figure it out.

Why not? It'd make this conversation go so much easier

[DarKspawnerreich]

I literally linked posts of a conversation you and I had months ago

Who are you? I've never seen you in October? Were you that Poland dude? I'm REALLY confused.

Which religious stuff did you learn that from?

That's a tricky subject, I don't want to say what my religion is, even though it's pretty easy to figure it out.

Christian Isis?

[Godular]

Damn... that's one of those stories that I can only wish never had to exist.

Unfortunately most of my family has stories similar to this. Not quite as bad, but still...

Even larger amounts of... Damn...

There's a part of me that just boggles at how it can even remotely calculate in folks to torment their children that way and feel at all justified in the doing.

[Kernen]

One need not be evil to not deserve contact.

Yes, but you at least don't make fun of them, right?

When it comes up, I'm comfortable with it. I don't believe them particularly sacred. They're just people I dislike.

[Godular]

I literally linked posts of a conversation you and I had months ago

Who are you? I've never seen you in October? Were you that Poland dude? I'm REALLY confused.

Which religious stuff did you learn that from?

That's a tricky subject, I don't want to say what my religion is, even though it's pretty easy to figure it out.

Considering the fact that you keep saying G_d, that'd put you in one of the Jewish variants... which is surprising, as they're usually among the more scientifically forward-thinking folk I've known. What's your excuse?

[Neutraligon]

Yes, but you at least don't make fun of them, right?

When it comes up, I'm comfortable with it. I don't believe them particularly sacred. They're just people I dislike.

I am trying to decide whether this persons opinions are a reason to teach about religions in school or not (assuming they are actually representative of their religion). I mean should students learn about religions that are actively harmful like this? Maybe in higher grades. I wonder if the BITE model and cults should be discussed in schools.