Should Religions Be Taught in Schools?

[Godular]

Returning to 'Decent in concept, trainwreck in practice'...

Why? Lack of enforcement?

That's one problem, yes.

[Jedi Council]

How doesn't it make sense?

If it is perfect, it needs no improvements, nor can you make any improvements. If it cannot be understood by everyone who can't speak the language, then an improvement can be made (making it so everyone who reads it understands it, regardless of if they know the language), therefore it is not perfect.

G-d wants people to work hard to figure his words out. The more credit of course!

Because this is not "the days of old."

In our modern world, the average person has a total of seven sexual partners throughout their life. As I have said, this girl, who was in University, and had a good social life, could have been faced with situations around men where she was woefully unprepared and uneducated. Saying "you'll learn about it when you are married" helps no one.

So no, that's not an answer to the problem of bad education in catholic schools around Sex.

Do I think that people should have several sexual partners? I don't. Everyone in my family had one, and Sexual Partner? LOL why? Why are people have kids with people that are not married to them. See, my religion forbids that, only if you are married to the person may you have kids with them.

Because it is unrealistic.

It's fine to say you should only have sex with your wife/husband/partners. If that school taught that, and proper family planning, I would have much less a problem with them.

But they did not. They said only have sex with you're partner, and did not prepare anyone for the possibility that they may make a mistake, love someone enough before marriage to engage in intimacy, or just decide that they want to try it before marriage. They deliberately ignored safety and health for dogma.

It would be like saying "Sugar is evil, never eat sugar except for fruit" while totally understanding that most people will likely eat a chocolate bar at some point, but then refusing to tell people exactly how, or what sugar does, and the ways to counteract excess sugar, which is of course a moderate diet and exercise.

Your faith may tell you to not engage in sexual activity with more than one partner, but to not prepare oneself for safe and healthy behaviour in the event that that is not the case is entirely amoral and outright dangerous.

[La Xinga]

G-d wants people to work hard to figure his words out. The more credit of course!
Do I think that people should have several sexual partners? I don't. Everyone in my family had one, and Sexual Partner? LOL why? Why are people have kids with people that are not married to them. See, my religion forbids that, only if you are married to the person may you have kids with them.

Because it is unrealistic.

It's fine to say you should only have sex with your wife/husband/partners. If that school taught that, and proper family planning, I would have much less a problem with them.

But they did not. They said only have sex with you're partner, and did not prepare anyone for the possibility that they may make a mistake, love someone enough before marriage to engage in intimacy, or just decide that they want to try it before marriage. They deliberately ignored safety and health for dogma.

It would be like saying "Sugar is evil, never eat sugar" while totally understanding that most people will likely eat a chocolate bar at some point, but then refusing to tell people exactly how, or what sugar does, and the ways to counteract excess sugar, which is of course a moderate diet and exercise.

Your faith may tell you to not engage in sexual activity with more than one partner, but to not prepare oneself for safe and healthy behaviour in the event that that is not the case is entirely amoral and outright dangerous.

Again, you should talk to the owner of that place and ask them, I'm not Catholic. I see no desire for loving a person so much to have a child already, if there is a strong punishment for that above.

[Godular]

Your proof never existed. You rather literally have nothing, which means you are essentially treating any prospect of your specific faith appearing in schools as a self-aggrandizing soap-box with no other purpose than to evangelize.



If the book were 'perfect' as you claim it to be, the meaning on its pages would be clear to all, regardless of what language they speak, and it would not be subject to different interpretations. As different interpretations exist, and the book must be translated, we must conclude that the text is not 'perfect'.

I told you my proof.

You gave me a line of bullshit. It has been rather widely decried as a line of bullshit, even by other religiously oriented folks on this forum.

And G-d wants you to work hard to find out interpretations.
And it should not havbe been translated into differnt languasges,.

1. It is the height of pride to make claims about God's purported intentions.
2. If it had not been translated, nobody would read it then. If your God's intent was to make people work for it, they chose a very flawed means of doing so.

[Jedi Council]

Because it is unrealistic.

It's fine to say you should only have sex with your wife/husband/partners. If that school taught that, and proper family planning, I would have much less a problem with them.

But they did not. They said only have sex with you're partner, and did not prepare anyone for the possibility that they may make a mistake, love someone enough before marriage to engage in intimacy, or just decide that they want to try it before marriage. They deliberately ignored safety and health for dogma.

It would be like saying "Sugar is evil, never eat sugar" while totally understanding that most people will likely eat a chocolate bar at some point, but then refusing to tell people exactly how, or what sugar does, and the ways to counteract excess sugar, which is of course a moderate diet and exercise.

Your faith may tell you to not engage in sexual activity with more than one partner, but to not prepare oneself for safe and healthy behaviour in the event that that is not the case is entirely amoral and outright dangerous.

Again, you should talk to the owner of that place and ask them, I'm not Catholic. I see no desire for loving a person so much to have a child already, if there is a strong punishment for that above.

I am not asking them I am asking you.

You are defending their right to educate people according to their dogma, which has proven to be dangerous and amoral. You must either admit you are wrong, modify your position, or continue to take responsiblity for defending this practice.

[La Xinga]

I told you my proof.

You gave me a line of bullshit. It has been rather widely decried as a line of bullshit, even by other religiously oriented folks on this forum.

And G-d wants you to work hard to find out interpretations.
And it should not havbe been translated into differnt languasges,.

1. It is the height of pride to make claims about God's purported intentions.
2. If it had not been translated, nobody would read it then. If your God's intent was to make people work for it, they chose a very flawed means of doing so.

I've spoken with a relig guy for the forum.

Again, you should talk to the owner of that place and ask them, I'm not Catholic. I see no desire for loving a person so much to have a child already, if there is a strong punishment for that above.

I am not asking them I am asking you.

You are defending their right to educate people according to their dogma, which has proven to be dangerous and amoral. You must either admit you are wrong, modify your position, or continue to take responsiblity for defending this practice.

Sir/madam, I think it is okay what they did. Her parents could have taught her too.

[Jedi Council]

You gave me a line of bullshit. It has been rather widely decried as a line of bullshit, even by other religiously oriented folks on this forum.



1. It is the height of pride to make claims about God's purported intentions.
2. If it had not been translated, nobody would read it then. If your God's intent was to make people work for it, they chose a very flawed means of doing so.

I've spoken with a relig guy for the forum.

I am not asking them I am asking you.

You are defending their right to educate people according to their dogma, which has proven to be dangerous and amoral. You must either admit you are wrong, modify your position, or continue to take responsiblity for defending this practice.

Sir/madam, I think it is okay what they did. Her parents could have taught her too.

And they didn't, they also failed to properly prepare her for life because of their beliefs.

I do not know what gender you are/are not, but imagine growing up not understand why your body functions the way it does. Imagine being 21 and now knowing how you get pregnant, or get someone pregnant. That level of ignorance is truly harmful. And any faith or sogma that justifies it is equally reprehensible

It is shameful to say anyone deserves or is served by that level of dogmatic nonsense.

[Godular]

You gave me a line of bullshit. It has been rather widely decried as a line of bullshit, even by other religiously oriented folks on this forum.



1. It is the height of pride to make claims about God's purported intentions.
2. If it had not been translated, nobody would read it then. If your God's intent was to make people work for it, they chose a very flawed means of doing so.

I've spoken with a relig guy for the forum.

Cool irrelevant story. It counters rather impressively nothing that I have said.

[La Xinga]

I've spoken with a relig guy for the forum.
Sir/madam, I think it is okay what they did. Her parents could have taught her too.

And they didn't, they also failed to properly prepare her for life because of their beliefs.

I do not know what gender you are/are not, but imagine growing up not understand why your body functions the way it does. Imagine being 21 and now knowing how you get pregnant, or get someone pregnant. That level of ignorance is truly harmful.

It is shameful to say anyone deserves or is served by that level of dogmatic nonsense.

It's not my fault the parents didn't, or the school's fault.
What did they say about the biology?
UH, being 21 and not knowing these stuff? Perfectly normal.

[La Xinga]

I've spoken with a relig guy for the forum.

Cool irrelevant story. It counters rather impressively nothing that I have said.

U ssaid also relig guys on the forum. And here I just proved you wrong.

I also think your favorite word is: "Cool irrelevant story", but that's beside the point.

[Jedi Council]

And they didn't, they also failed to properly prepare her for life because of their beliefs.

I do not know what gender you are/are not, but imagine growing up not understand why your body functions the way it does. Imagine being 21 and now knowing how you get pregnant, or get someone pregnant. That level of ignorance is truly harmful.

It is shameful to say anyone deserves or is served by that level of dogmatic nonsense.

It's not my fault the parents didn't, or the school's fault.
What did they say about the biology?
UH, being 21 and not knowing these stuff? Perfectly normal.

They did not cover human biology in class, as I have previously stated.

Not it's not your fault, but you seem to be supporting their poor choices and appear to be fine with them providing no help for this girl to understand her own body.

You think it is fine for a 21 year old, an ADULT to not understand how babies are made? That is abhorrent.

[Godular]

Cool irrelevant story. It counters rather impressively nothing that I have said.

U ssaid also relig guys on the forum. And here I just proved you wrong.

No, you did not. I did not say 'ALL religiously oriented folks', because Poe's Law is a thing no matter how much I might wish it weren't. Your reply that you've spoken to ONE religious type here rather reinforces my point than disproves it. There are hundreds of posters here, and you got ONE to... what, chat with you? Without staring at you with a gobsmacked expression?

[La Xinga]

It's not my fault the parents didn't, or the school's fault.
What did they say about the biology?
UH, being 21 and not knowing these stuff? Perfectly normal.

They did not cover human biology in class, as I have previously stated.

Not it's not your fault, but you seem to be supporting their poor choices and appear to be fine with them providing no help for this girl to understand her own body.

You think it is fine for a 21 year old, an ADULT to not understand how babies are made? That is abhorrent.

AGAIN, her parents could have told her.

And again, you said the reason that they didn't teach her Sex, but not biology? I can't answer you about biology, cuz you didn't say their answer like you said by sex.

[Neutraligon]

Cool irrelevant story. It counters rather impressively nothing that I have said.

U ssaid also relig guys on the forum. And here I just proved you wrong.

Your having spoken to one person does not prove Godular wrong when they say that there are religious people who say you are wrong.

They did not cover human biology in class, as I have previously stated.

Not it's not your fault, but you seem to be supporting their poor choices and appear to be fine with them providing no help for this girl to understand her own body.

You think it is fine for a 21 year old, an ADULT to not understand how babies are made? That is abhorrent.

AGAIN, her parents could have told her.

And again, you said the reason that they didn't teach her Sex, but not biology? I can't answer you about biology, cuz you didn't say their answer like you said by sex.

And your parents could have taught you calculus. A parent being able to teach something does not preclude a school teaching something.

[La Xinga]

U ssaid also relig guys on the forum. And here I just proved you wrong.

Your having spoken to one person does not prove Godular wrong when they say that there are religious people who say you are wrong.

Again, there are many different religions.

U ssaid also relig guys on the forum. And here I just proved you wrong.

No, you did not. I did not say 'ALL religiously oriented folks', because Poe's Law is a thing no matter how much I might wish it weren't. Your reply that you've spoken to ONE religious type here rather reinforces my point than disproves it. There are hundreds of posters here, and you got ONE to... what, chat with you? Without staring at you with a gobsmacked expression?

^

[Godular]

Your having spoken to one person does not prove Godular wrong when they say that there are religious people who say you are wrong.

Again, there are many different religions.

No, you did not. I did not say 'ALL religiously oriented folks', because Poe's Law is a thing no matter how much I might wish it weren't. Your reply that you've spoken to ONE religious type here rather reinforces my point than disproves it. There are hundreds of posters here, and you got ONE to... what, chat with you? Without staring at you with a gobsmacked expression?

^

That... means rather literally nothing in regards to any point you were attempting to make.

[Jedi Council]

They did not cover human biology in class, as I have previously stated.

Not it's not your fault, but you seem to be supporting their poor choices and appear to be fine with them providing no help for this girl to understand her own body.

You think it is fine for a 21 year old, an ADULT to not understand how babies are made? That is abhorrent.

AGAIN, her parents could have told her.

And again, you said the reason that they didn't teach her Sex, but not biology? I can't answer you about biology, cuz you didn't say their answer like you said by sex.

And again I will point out that her parents did not because they agreed with the schools insidious dogma. That does not excuse either the school or the parents from failure.

Human biology is inextricably linked to sexual reproduction. They did not teach either topic because they are so incredibly similar.

It is ironic, seeing as though it has been proven that a failure to provide proper biological and sex education, along with a lack of knowledge about safe family planning increases the likelihood of childbirth before marriage, which, ostensibly, is what many of these dogmatic religions are trying to avoid by ignoring these topics.

[Neutraligon]

Your having spoken to one person does not prove Godular wrong when they say that there are religious people who say you are wrong.

Again, there are many different religions.

No, you did not. I did not say 'ALL religiously oriented folks', because Poe's Law is a thing no matter how much I might wish it weren't. Your reply that you've spoken to ONE religious type here rather reinforces my point than disproves it. There are hundreds of posters here, and you got ONE to... what, chat with you? Without staring at you with a gobsmacked expression?

^

There being many religions is irrelevant. Godular is agreeing with me not you.

[La Xinga]

Again, there are many different religions.
^

That... means rather literally nothing in regards to any point you were attempting to make.

People can disagree becuz they are from other religions that disagree entirely with me.

AGAIN, her parents could have told her.

And again, you said the reason that they didn't teach her Sex, but not biology? I can't answer you about biology, cuz you didn't say their answer like you said by sex.

And again I will point out that her parents did not because they agreed with the schools insidious dogma. That does not excuse either the school or the parents from failure.

Human biology is inextricably linked to sexual reproduction. They did not teach either topic because they are so incredibly similar.

It is ironic, seeing as though it has been proven that a failure to provide proper biological and sex education, along with a lack of knowledge about safe family planning increases the likelihood of childbirth before marriage, which, ostensibly, is what many of these dogmatic religions are trying to avoid by ignoring these topics.

Her parents agreed with the school? Am i correct?

Again, there are many different religions.
^

There being many religions is irrelevant. Godular is agreeing with me not you.

Godular never agrees with me, that's not the point, I never said he was.

[Neutraligon]

That... means rather literally nothing in regards to any point you were attempting to make.

People can disagree becuz they are from other religions that disagree entirely with me.

Or they disagree with you while being the same religion as you.

[La Xinga]

People can disagree becuz they are from other religions that disagree entirely with me.

Or they disagree with you while being the same religion as you.

I hardly know anyone on NS that has the same religion as me.

[Jedi Council]

That... means rather literally nothing in regards to any point you were attempting to make.

People can disagree becuz they are from other religions that disagree entirely with me.

And again I will point out that her parents did not because they agreed with the schools insidious dogma. That does not excuse either the school or the parents from failure.

Human biology is inextricably linked to sexual reproduction. They did not teach either topic because they are so incredibly similar.

It is ironic, seeing as though it has been proven that a failure to provide proper biological and sex education, along with a lack of knowledge about safe family planning increases the likelihood of childbirth before marriage, which, ostensibly, is what many of these dogmatic religions are trying to avoid by ignoring these topics.

Her parents agreed with the school? Am I correct?

Seeing as though I literally stated this yes you did read properly. Well done.

But even if they agreed, that does not mean the school gets to get off Scot-free with providing shit education. It just means that it provides shit-education AND so do her parents.

[Dylar]

People can disagree becuz they are from other religions that disagree entirely with me.

Or they disagree with you while being the same religion as you.

Enter the Catholics, Protestants and Orthodox

[La Xinga]

People can disagree becuz they are from other religions that disagree entirely with me.
Her parents agreed with the school? Am I correct?

Seeing as though I literally stated this yes you did read properly. Well done.

But even if they agreed, that does not mean the school gets to get off Scot-free with providing shit education. It just means that it provides shit-education AND so do her parents.

I think her parents know what is best for her.

[Godular]

That... means rather literally nothing in regards to any point you were attempting to make.

People can disagree becuz they are from other religions that disagree entirely with me.

But of course you hold THEIR religions as factually untrue. You keep using 'factual' in your comments, but I'm fairly certain you do not know what that word truly means.