Should Religions Be Taught in Schools?

[Geneviev]

It always has been.

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That didn't work out.

It always has been.

Not like marriage predates Christianity or anything.

It does. But it's also very important to Christians. It's part of the religion.

[Kowani]

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That didn't work out.

Not like marriage predates Christianity or anything.

It does. But it's also very important to Christians. It's part of the religion.

Gen, let me be very clear. Saying “all good things are Christian values” is a nonsense statement. It communicates nothing of value, holds nothing of evidence, and is unfalsifiable.

[Geneviev]

That didn't work out.


It does. But it's also very important to Christians. It's part of the religion.

Gen, let me be very clear. Saying “all good things are Christian values” is a nonsense statement. It communicates nothing of value, holds nothing of evidence, and is unfalsifiable.

In the case of marriage, Ephesians 5:21-33 should make it clear that marriage is an incredibly important part of Christianity. It represents the church.

[Rojava Free State]

That didn't work out.


It does. But it's also very important to Christians. It's part of the religion.

Gen, let me be very clear. Saying “all good things are Christian values” is a nonsense statement. It communicates nothing of value, holds nothing of evidence, and is unfalsifiable.

It's like when people say America was founded on Christian values and when you say "prove it" they say "the law bans murder."

Wow, I didn't know that outside of christian countries, murder is legal.

[Ifreann]

Gen, let me be very clear. Saying “all good things are Christian values” is a nonsense statement. It communicates nothing of value, holds nothing of evidence, and is unfalsifiable.

In the case of marriage, Ephesians 5:21-33 should make it clear that marriage is an incredibly important part of Christianity. It represents the church.

Those verses don't say anything about the importance of marriage.

[Alorgaze]

Maybe we shouldn't teach history in school. Maybe no philosophy either.

Guess that's somehow fucking relevant here now.
Some of you really make me question if human intelligence is actually as high as people think.

[Rojava Free State]

Maybe we shouldn't teach history in school. Maybe no philosophy either.

Guess that's somehow fucking relevant here now.
Some of you really make me question if human intelligence is actually as high as people think.

Jesus christ lmao.

[Geneviev]

In the case of marriage, Ephesians 5:21-33 should make it clear that marriage is an incredibly important part of Christianity. It represents the church.

Those verses don't say anything about the importance of marriage.

Yes, they do. They're saying that marriage represents the Gospel.

[Purple Rats]

I think i might have misinterpreted the question in the OP.

I read this as: should we teach about religion, which ones are there and what is holy/ taboo for them?

If this is the case, my answer is yes. We should educate our children about religion/ spirituality.

If the OP meant : religious beliefs from only 1 religion is taught, then my answer is no. I rather not teach beliefs as facts.

That's what I think as well. I learned about religion in school, and I am glad I did, but it was theory, not pushing beliefs as fact.

[Alvecia]

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That didn't work out.

Lady Luck is a fickle mistress

[Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire]

No. Keep church and state separate

Go to a church or do it at home if you must teach your child religion. But not school, for that is for purely factual things.

Now you can argue all you want about how true religion is, but until it's as integral of a truth as mathematics, it shouldn't be in schools.

[Neanderthaland]

Every time I think you've gotten better Geneviev, you pull the same bullshit.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, it's not true. It was never true.

You are just making every idea that you like "Christian." And giving Christianity credit for every good thing that people do. And when people point this out to you very explicitly, you just ignore them, and repeat yourself.

At this point, even ostriches are embarrassed for you.

The good things people do are Christian ideals.

I mean... someone help me out here. What do you do when the other guy admits to using dishonest, fallacious sophistry? With no shame and a smile on their face?

[Ifreann]

Those verses don't say anything about the importance of marriage.

Yes, they do. They're saying that marriage represents the Gospel.

No, they're saying that husbands must be benevolent dictators to their wives, just as God is a benevolent dictator to the Church.

[Rojava Free State]

Yes, they do. They're saying that marriage represents the Gospel.

No, they're saying that husbands must be benevolent dictators to their wives, just as God is a benevolent dictator to the Church.

Ironic, since malevolence is a better description of both God and sexist trad husbands.

[Jedi Council]

Those verses don't say anything about the importance of marriage.

Yes, they do. They're saying that marriage represents the Gospel.

Well marriage existed before Christianity, so I would hardly think that your specific religion really has a monopoly on its importance.

[Dollystana]

Nobiddy Nobiddy No

[Jedi Council]

Yes, they do. They're saying that marriage represents the Gospel.

No, they're saying that husbands must be benevolent dictators to their wives, just as God is a benevolent dictator to the Church.

Everyone everywhere should always be suspicious of the term benevolent dictatorship. Religion is no exception.

[Nova Anglicana]

World Religions as a mandatory class from a neutral point of view, taught by non-clergy, would be a valuable class.

[Albrenia]

Yes, they do. They're saying that marriage represents the Gospel.

No, they're saying that husbands must be benevolent dictators to their wives, just as God is a benevolent dictator to the Church.

Well that seems horrific for anyone who isn't a dickbag. Being a 'benevolent dictator' over other human beings sounds incredibly stressful, and being the slave of said dictator doesn't sound nice either.

[Katganistan]

I wanna have a class on Norse neopaganism. When someone asks what that even is, I'll just start blasting some black metal and say "this basically."

A bit more to it than that, but rock on.

[Katganistan]

Of course. The purpose of a school is to educate children; and religious education, no less and indeed more than other forms of education, is necessary for a child's intellectual growth into a mature adulthood.

You've made an assertion. Now support it with facts and evidence.

[Jedi Council]

Of course. The purpose of a school is to educate children; and religious education, no less and indeed more than other forms of education, is necessary for a child's intellectual growth into a mature adulthood.

So how is my secular education inferior to a religious one?

[Albrenia]

Of course. The purpose of a school is to educate children; and religious education, no less and indeed more than other forms of education, is necessary for a child's intellectual growth into a mature adulthood.

So how is my secular education inferior to a religious one?

It's not. It's possibly superior, anyway.

[Katganistan]

You're right, he wasn't. In fact, a disproportionate number of Deists happened to be among the framers of the American Constitution. Including many of the most influential ones. It would be far more appropriate to say that the Constitution and Declaration of Independence were Deist documents than Christian ones. But, of course, that would be wrong too, and for the same reason.

These documents are not owned by any religion. They belong only to themselves. Christianity does not get to lay claim to them. And their ideals are not Christian ideals.


NO. God damn it. NO NO NO. It was UNCOMMON. That's why people loved Rockefeller. Because he seemed to be an exception to the greedy industrialist who steals all the money and leaves his workers destitute. Mind you, he made all that money on the backs of said destitute workers, so it's kind of a hypocritical PR campaign. But still. He is not common.

You can't just make up shit like this about what was or wasn't common in American history. This would be like me re-inventing Germany history to say, "Actually, the Prussians were a profoundly peace-loving bunch. Who enjoyed Peking opera. And to prove it, I have this one quote from a Prussian who enjoyed Peking opera!"


Yeah, no the Catholic right has largely jumped on the bandwagon with the evangelicals. Sometimes you'll hear similar stuff from more conservative branches of usually laid-back denominations. But it's mostly just because they've fallen for the lie.


IT IS NOT TRUE. Stop saying it's true. You're breaking the 9th Commandment.

Or breaking the 8th commandment for those who were/are Catholic.

LOL yup we can't even agree on the order/numbering.

Every time I think you've gotten better Geneviev, you pull the same bullshit.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, it's not true. It was never true.

You are just making every idea that you like "Christian." And giving Christianity credit for every good thing that people do. And when people point this out to you very explicitly, you just ignore them, and repeat yourself.

At this point, even ostriches are embarrassed for you.

The good things people do are Christian ideals.

Sure. Tell that to a practicing Muslim. Or Buddhist. Or Jew. Or atheist.

Christians do not have, and never had, the monopoly on morality.

[Jedi Council]

So how is my secular education inferior to a religious one?

It's not. It's possibly superior, anyway.

I agree.

The original poster does not seem to, and I would like to hear why