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How can religions evangelize in schools?

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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 16, 2020 1:33 pm

The Sladerstan wrote:They should really teach creationism first... if not Christianity will be basically a book of fairytales for the students. You have to show there is a God and then show who He is.

Creationism would be more appropriate in science classes, probably. If Christianity is taught, they shouldn't try proving it first. They should start with the Gospels.
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Postby Sundiata » Sat May 16, 2020 1:33 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Yes, religions should be free to evangelize in schools.

As long as we can take time in your church to teach science.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat May 16, 2020 1:33 pm

Learning about world religions is okay in public schools, but actually trying to evangelize students, that's a no.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat May 16, 2020 1:34 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Sladerstan wrote:They should really teach creationism first... if not Christianity will be basically a book of fairytales for the students. You have to show there is a God and then show who He is.

Creationism would be more appropriate in science classes, probably. If Christianity is taught, they shouldn't try proving it first. They should start with the Gospels.

No it should not, because creationism is not science. We already do a bad job of teaching science, try not to make it worse please.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 16, 2020 1:34 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Genivaria wrote:As long as we can take time in your church to teach science.

You're truly more than welcome.

I've never seen someone say that.

Although my church did attempt science, most people were just extremely confused. If you don't know anything about biology, you won't understand the complicated things that the church was trying to teach.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sat May 16, 2020 1:35 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Sladerstan wrote:They should really teach creationism first... if not Christianity will be basically a book of fairytales for the students. You have to show there is a God and then show who He is.

Creationism would be more appropriate in science classes, probably. If Christianity is taught, they shouldn't try proving it first. They should start with the Gospels.


Creationism appropriate for science class?

By all means, go for it. And while you are at it, let's also teach the creation myths of Hinduism, Ancient Egypt, Greece, the various mesopotamian civilizations, the different traditions of indigenous American tribes, and all the other fairy tales we have developed over the years.

It would be one hell of a science class.
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Postby Sundiata » Sat May 16, 2020 1:37 pm

The Sladerstan wrote:They should really teach creationism first... if not Christianity will be basically a book of fairytales for the students. You have to show there is a God and then show who He is.

...

You don't need to believe in Creationism to believe in Christianity. That's ludicrous. You can teach students about God without having them subscribe to bad science.
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Postby Estanglia » Sat May 16, 2020 1:37 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Sladerstan wrote:They should really teach creationism first... if not Christianity will be basically a book of fairytales for the students. You have to show there is a God and then show who He is.

Creationism would be more appropriate in science classes, probably. If Christianity is taught, they shouldn't try proving it first. They should start with the Gospels.


Creationism would not be appropriate to teach in science classes, since teaching it is counterproductive to teaching science. Science requires you to prove your claims, creationism is an unproven claim. Teaching creationism as anything other than the unproven claim it is would be teaching kids to not follow a basic principle of science in a science class.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 16, 2020 1:37 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Creationism would be more appropriate in science classes, probably. If Christianity is taught, they shouldn't try proving it first. They should start with the Gospels.

No it should not, because creationism is not science. We already do a bad job of teaching science, try not to make it worse please.

It's not that bad. You can still add more. Creationism isn't really religion anyway.

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Geneviev wrote:Creationism would be more appropriate in science classes, probably. If Christianity is taught, they shouldn't try proving it first. They should start with the Gospels.


Creationism appropriate for science class?

By all means, go for it. And while you are at it, let's also teach the creation myths of Hinduism, Ancient Egypt, Greece, the various mesopotamian civilizations, the different traditions of indigenous American tribes, and all the other fairy tales we have developed over the years.

It would be one hell of a science class.

Sure. Some of those are history, though. But it would be pretty interesting.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 16, 2020 1:38 pm

Absolutely not.

As far as i am concerned religion should only be in a school as part of a history class
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Postby Eudea » Sat May 16, 2020 1:38 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Creationism would be more appropriate in science classes, probably. If Christianity is taught, they shouldn't try proving it first. They should start with the Gospels.


Creationism appropriate for science class?

By all means, go for it. And while you are at it, let's also teach the creation myths of Hinduism, Ancient Egypt, Greece, the various mesopotamian civilizations, the different traditions of indigenous American tribes, and all the other fairy tales we have developed over the years.

It would be one hell of a science class.


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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Sat May 16, 2020 1:39 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Nap the Magnificent wrote:Maybe we shouldn't teach history in school. Maybe no philosophy either.

what?

Both of those are used to indoctrinate kids with values, worldviews, etc. I mean, all education does this but generally we don't like to think of it as such because indoctrination is for "uncivilized" types in popular Western discourse.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat May 16, 2020 1:42 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:No it should not, because creationism is not science. We already do a bad job of teaching science, try not to make it worse please.

It's not that bad. You can still add more. Creationism isn't really religion anyway.
It is that bad
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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 16, 2020 1:43 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It's not that bad. You can still add more. Creationism isn't really religion anyway.
It is that bad

You don't have to teach that it's true.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat May 16, 2020 1:43 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:I don't believe in God, but it'd be rather logically inconsistent to refuse to allow schools to teach God-worship when they already teach State-worship.

what?
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Postby Eudea » Sat May 16, 2020 1:44 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Neutraligon wrote: It is that bad

You don't have to teach that it's true.


Since when was it worth teaching at all?
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Postby Kernen » Sat May 16, 2020 1:44 pm

School is a place to learn to function in society. Our society is secular in operation, religion is not necessary in the curriculum except insofar as it is relevant to academic pursuits.

I'm not sold on student groups, either. That's what churches are for.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat May 16, 2020 1:46 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Neutraligon wrote: It is that bad

You don't have to teach that it's true.

Teaching it is true would make it even worse then what you are suggesting. Creationism should not be taught in the science classroom because it is in no way science. Well, unless you want to teach students about how not to do science. I am pretty sure evangelicals would have issues with their creation story being used in such a manner though.
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Postby Green October Z » Sat May 16, 2020 1:47 pm

Why not?
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat May 16, 2020 1:47 pm

Fuck-to-the-Hell-no.

Schools should teach kids about religion, but not try and convert them to a specific religion. That'd be fucky.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat May 16, 2020 1:47 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Neutraligon wrote: It is that bad

You don't have to teach that it's true.

So you're saying we should teach things....that are false?

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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Sat May 16, 2020 1:48 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Absolutely not.

As far as i am concerned religion should only be in a school as part of a history class

We should only learn about maths through history.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 16, 2020 1:50 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Absolutely not.

As far as i am concerned religion should only be in a school as part of a history class

We should only learn about maths through history.

Religion can easily fit into a history class by teaching the history of various major religions.
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Postby Sundiata » Sat May 16, 2020 1:50 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Sundiata wrote:You're truly more than welcome.

I've never seen someone say that.

Although my church did attempt science, most people were just extremely confused. If you don't know anything about biology, you won't understand the complicated things that the church was trying to teach.

Well, I think it's just a matter of messaging. Opus Dei priests tend to be highly educated.
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