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Postby Corvid Rul » Wed May 13, 2020 11:00 am

Prozitia wrote:I'm getting some strong Nazbol vibes right now.


Seriously. This is some Protocols of the Elders of Zion level nonsense.

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Postby Atheris » Wed May 13, 2020 11:01 am

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I think he's very "caerfully" trying to prance around directly saying "THE JOOZ ARE BAD AND WANT TO CAUSE WHITE/GOYIM GENIECIDE BEACUSE...JOZZ BARD!"


It's ironic because the only two non white looking Jews I've seen from America are Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons. Literally every Jew in my area looks like and identifies as your average white person, but somehow they're gonna cause white genocide.

Wait, Gene Simmons is Jewish?

Huh. Learn something new every day.
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Postby New Jewlan » Wed May 13, 2020 11:03 am

It looks like Franklin was a racist/ethnocentrist, Freemason and British Supremacist... Sounds a lot like Cecil Rhodes...
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 13, 2020 11:07 am

Rojava Free State wrote:"JEWS AREN'T WHITE! THEY'RE SEMITIC!"

-Every ninth grade dropout who doesn't understand the difference between a language family and race.

People actually claim that?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed May 13, 2020 11:09 am

Tinhampton wrote:Your premise seems to be "racism = in-group preference, in-group preference is widespread and necessary, therefore racism is good." Have we completely forgotten about civic nationalism?


Civic nationalism is a meme.
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Postby Confessional Korea » Wed May 13, 2020 11:12 am

Rojava Free State wrote:"JEWS AREN'T WHITE! THEY'RE SEMITIC!"

-Every ninth grade dropout who doesn't understand the difference between a language family and race.

Jews are not white unless you want to claim Arabs, Assyrians, Yazidis, Phoenicians and Copts are as well.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed May 13, 2020 11:12 am

Atheris wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
It's ironic because the only two non white looking Jews I've seen from America are Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons. Literally every Jew in my area looks like and identifies as your average white person, but somehow they're gonna cause white genocide.

Wait, Gene Simmons is Jewish?

Huh. Learn something new every day.


His name at birth was Chaim Witz, and he later changed his name to Gene Klein. He was also born in Israel.

So yeah I'd say he was extremely Jewish.
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Postby Prozitia » Wed May 13, 2020 11:12 am

Because it's a tool. It's a fixed concept to direct people's attention from what's really going wrong and what can be done for their own and other people's sake, but rather turn their feelings for fraternity among each other into an endless and meaningless battle just for tyrants to profit. Or in Max Stirner's words, a spook. So then, is class struggle the same? Well yes, but also no. No, because it's a material condition which causes people to unite for a true common benefit and establish self-determination through solidarity and co-operation, whereas race or even a strong attachment to a local culture is used as a divisive tactic to benefit whoever's in control of it. But also yes, because it in itself can degenerate into a sense of selfless responsibility for a state which in itself is subject to abuse(for example: Soviet ultra-nationalism, late-stage Maoism).

So, what kind of concepts are acceptable? Ones that are universal, flexible, humanist and those that allow you to think for yourself. Ones that oppose oppression, in every form. Ones that don't discriminate against peoples in any way, and seek to utilize their merits for the best. One that is the best for all individuals, and ensures self-sovereignty, free from societal parasites.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed May 13, 2020 11:13 am

Confessional Korea wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:"JEWS AREN'T WHITE! THEY'RE SEMITIC!"

-Every ninth grade dropout who doesn't understand the difference between a language family and race.

Jews are not white unless you want to claim Arabs, Assyrians, Yazidis, Phoenicians and Copts are as well.


If white = European, then Jews aren't white.

if white = light skin, then there are tons of people from all over the world who would be considered white
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed May 13, 2020 11:15 am

Audioslavia wrote:I read the OP.

What a load of utter shite. Wrong-headed mealy-mouthed wank-bag toss that can fuck off back to the shithole sub-stormfront nazi-fetish worstcunt-factory it came from.


But how do you really feel? :lol:
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Postby Roosevetania » Wed May 13, 2020 11:17 am

Confessional Korea wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:"JEWS AREN'T WHITE! THEY'RE SEMITIC!"

-Every ninth grade dropout who doesn't understand the difference between a language family and race.

Jews are not white unless you want to claim Arabs, Assyrians, Yazidis, Phoenicians and Copts are as well.

What's the point of discussing the semantics of race and who gets to be white? The world is a diverse collection of many different ethnicities. I'm not trying to pull the "ahaha i don't see color," but I think when you have a continuum of skin tones, it's absurd to debate how to divide it into five groups.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed May 13, 2020 11:18 am

Kowani wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:"JEWS AREN'T WHITE! THEY'RE SEMITIC!"

-Every ninth grade dropout who doesn't understand the difference between a language family and race.

People actually claim that?

Same people that went

"IRISH AREN'T WHITE!" or "CATHOLICS AREN'T WHITE!"
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Postby Minimark » Wed May 13, 2020 11:20 am

Never thought Id see a nazbol on this website, or ever. But anyways:

Communism can't work with racism. A major part of communism is uniting by class over uniting by nationality and race. If the collective rejects a race, then that race is oppressed and the collective acting like a ceo and controlling goods for themselves, thereby making some large racial societal capitalism.

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Postby Edeak » Wed May 13, 2020 11:20 am

North Koreans are pretty racist. Explain to me why they're not successful?

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Postby Pangurstan » Wed May 13, 2020 11:21 am

The South Falls wrote:
Kowani wrote:People actually claim that?

Same people that went

"IRISH AREN'T WHITE!" or "CATHOLICS AREN'T WHITE!"

The Benjamin Franklin quote in the OP also said “SWEDES AREN’T WHITE!”
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Postby Novus America » Wed May 13, 2020 11:22 am

Confessional Korea wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:"JEWS AREN'T WHITE! THEY'RE SEMITIC!"

-Every ninth grade dropout who doesn't understand the difference between a language family and race.

Jews are not white unless you want to claim Arabs, Assyrians, Yazidis, Phoenicians and Copts are as well.


Many people would including the US census, for example Steve Jobs (although Arab is a ethnolinguistic grouping not a race, some Arabs are very dark and others very light).

Also Jews have become genetically mixed over time, Ashkenazi Jews have a large amount of German and Polish and such in their backgrounds.

Compared to Mizrahi Jews who tend to be darker.
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Postby Corvid Rul » Wed May 13, 2020 11:22 am

The South Falls wrote:
Kowani wrote:People actually claim that?

Same people that went

"IRISH AREN'T WHITE!" or "CATHOLICS AREN'T WHITE!"


What these chucklefucks never seem to grasp is that if they were to get the white ethnostate they want, it wouldn't just stop there. Next it would have to be the "right kind" of white.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed May 13, 2020 11:23 am

The South Falls wrote:
Kowani wrote:People actually claim that?

Same people that went

"IRISH AREN'T WHITE!" or "CATHOLICS AREN'T WHITE!"


The whole "Irish aren't white" thing was largely a meme and never taken seriously by people. This famous image (below) is actually a work of satire (it even reads like satire), but people like to throw it around as if it legitimately represents what people thought.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed May 13, 2020 11:25 am

Corvid Rul wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Same people that went

"IRISH AREN'T WHITE!" or "CATHOLICS AREN'T WHITE!"


What these chucklefucks never seem to grasp is that if they were to get the white ethnostate they want, it wouldn't just stop there. Next it would have to be the "right kind" of white.


Would they really though? Is there actually a case where a nationalist state sub-divided itself and began attacking its own groups. Even the Nazis never singled out Austrians.
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Postby North American Environmental Alliance » Wed May 13, 2020 11:26 am

Tinhampton wrote:Your premise seems to be "racism = in-group preference, in-group preference is widespread and necessary, therefore racism is good." Have we completely forgotten about civic nationalism?

Civic nationalism isn't real nationalism.

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Postby Heloin » Wed May 13, 2020 11:28 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Same people that went

"IRISH AREN'T WHITE!" or "CATHOLICS AREN'T WHITE!"


The whole "Irish aren't white" thing was largely a meme and never taken seriously by people. This famous image (below) is actually a work of satire (it even reads like satire), but people like to throw it around as if it legitimately represents what people thought.
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Irish were treated as none whites, that wasn't satire or a joke that was real racism that white nationalist and other racists today try to pretend wasn't actually real because it helps prove that everything they are saying is utter bullshit.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed May 13, 2020 11:28 am

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Confessional Korea wrote:Jews are not white unless you want to claim Arabs, Assyrians, Yazidis, Phoenicians and Copts are as well.


If white = European, then Jews aren't white.

if white = light skin, then there are tons of people from all over the world who would be considered white


Indeed. Though the division of Europe from Asia itself is an arbitrary construct that arose due to the influence of the ancient Greeks, who lived around the boundary of the two "continents" and thus divided Eurasia between the people to their west and the people to their east out of convenience.

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Postby Pangurstan » Wed May 13, 2020 11:29 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Same people that went

"IRISH AREN'T WHITE!" or "CATHOLICS AREN'T WHITE!"


The whole "Irish aren't white" thing was largely a meme and never taken seriously by people. This famous image (below) is actually a work of satire (it even reads like satire), but people like to throw it around as if it legitimately represents what people thought.
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The Benjamin Franklin quote in the OP said that the only “real” white people were the English and North Germans.
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Postby Novus America » Wed May 13, 2020 11:30 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Corvid Rul wrote:
What these chucklefucks never seem to grasp is that if they were to get the white ethnostate they want, it wouldn't just stop there. Next it would have to be the "right kind" of white.


Would they really though? Is there actually a case where a nationalist state sub-divided itself and began attacking its own groups. Even the Nazis never singled out Austrians.


But whites do not make up a unified group of any sorts.
Which is why white nationalism is silly. There is no one white nation or culture.

And the Nazis absolutely attacked other “white” people like Poles, and of course religious and political groups it did not like.
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