Why is racism bad? So capitalism can run smoothly?

[Bear Stearns]

I assume you're referring to stuff like this:

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Usually these cartoons were satirical or were to make a point about a specific event that involved Irish people (such as gang violence, Fenian raid, etc.). Do you honestly believe that people actually thought Irish people looked like that? That'd be absurd.

That particular cartoon could be considered satire, sure. But this one from earlier in the thread

is from a book on phrenology, meant to show the 'superiority' of the Anglo-Teutonic man. Besides, comparing the Irish in those satiric cartoons to apes absolutely has a racist undertone. You rarely, if ever, see WASPy types depicted as ape-like in those cartoons, just people of color and "inferior whites".

That particular cartoon is from a satire comic as well. I mentioned it earlier in the thread.

[Corvid Rul]

That particular cartoon could be considered satire, sure. But this one from earlier in the thread

is from a book on phrenology, meant to show the 'superiority' of the Anglo-Teutonic man. Besides, comparing the Irish in those satiric cartoons to apes absolutely has a racist undertone. You rarely, if ever, see WASPy types depicted as ape-like in those cartoons, just people of color and "inferior whites".

That particular cartoon is from a satire comic as well. I mentioned it earlier in the thread.

The text on the image is hard to read, but if it is actually making a joke, the joke isn't on racists.

[La Xinga]

Why are Jews mentioned so heavily in the OP post?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Bigotry - in any form - is quite possibly the greatest evil Mankind has ever conceived. It is to essentially place someone outside of humanity and even sentience, as if they were some soulless creature from the black void. To reduce them to objects or inferior beings. It's disgusting, it's repugnant, and it needs to be exterminated from the face of the planet.

Absolutely no one should have to live such a life. If you can't understand that, OP, then well... there's nothing I can say that won't get me into trouble with the mods.

[US-SSR]

Why is racism bad? Read the OP. If for no other reason because it produces addlepated thinking. F'rinstance, that the current prosperity and power of the US is the direct result of taking land from Natives and putting enslaved Africans to work on it does not mean racism itself is somehow good.

[Rojava Free State]

People believed that Irish culture was so alien from theirs as to be considered nonwhite.

No, Gaelic Irish considered backwards and pagan. Nobody really thought they were non-white. "Irish" as a whole was never considered foreign because many of the early Americans were of Irish heritage, and back in those days, "Irish" did not exclusively mean "Gaelic Irish Catholics". Ulster Protestants were considered Irish (and tbh they are).

And there were comparisons between the Irish and apes.

I assume you're referring to stuff like this:

Usually these cartoons were satirical or were to make a point about a specific event that involved Irish people (such as gang violence, Fenian raid, etc.). Do you honestly believe that people actually thought Irish people looked like that? That'd be absurd.

Except many people did consider the irish to be non white. They were viewed as celtic and as "mediterranean" and not nordic like the Anglo Saxons.

[Rojava Free State]

What these chucklefucks never seem to grasp is that if they were to get the white ethnostate they want, it wouldn't just stop there. Next it would have to be the "right kind" of white.

Would they really though? Is there actually a case where a nationalist state sub-divided itself and began attacking its own groups. Even the Nazis never singled out Austrians.

No, but the nazis divided up the aryan race into a hierarchy, with mediterranean on the bottom and nordic on the top. And many pseudo scientist racists in the 1900s did the same for the "caucasian race."

[Senkaku]

OP, 3 year olds can also ask "but why xD," and have also not yet formulated any sort of moral compass or developed real empathy, and it's why we don't let them make major political and economic decisions (that and the shitting their pants thing)

Why are Jews mentioned so heavily in the OP post?

Bc OP thought anti-semitism was the best justification to argue that racism is good lol

[Slavakino]

Whether other races won't hurt you is debatable, especially when they have ingroup preference and you don't because you self-righteously insist on treating everyone as an individual.
Regression to the mean is also a thing. You can get a bunch of people of good character and make a society out of them, and while their kids might be marginally better than what the average would be otherwise it won't be as impressive as you might have hoped. The fact race is hereditary and permanent is exactly why it's so important. Being of good character isn't exactly good glue for binding people together - history is full of people of good character, great men on each side, fighting each other to the death. Blood is thicker than water and a tribal allegiance is a safer bet than just hanging around random decent people precisely because race is hereditary and permanent.
Groups of people kind of exist in a world with finite resources and are kind of in competition to survive and thrive.

Here's a better idea.

Step 1: We advance cybernetic augmentation technology.
Step 2: We advance space fairing technology.
Step 3: We popularise the concept of becoming a cyborg.
Step 4: The human race evolves into a new, cyborg race. Those who don't will die out in the coming generations (evolve or die)*. Sex, race, class Etc. becomes irrelevant, ending social barriers.
Step 5: ???
Step 6: We take to the stars and colonise the solar system.
Step 7: (Quite a lot of) Profit.
Step 8 (optional): We get involved in a war with an alien race, uniting humanity against a common enemy.


*Any primitives or technophobes will have their heads stomped in by out cyber-boots/feet.

Why are you a similar copy of me?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Geography isn’t the whole story. You can’t have a merchant class if you turn them all into serfs. Look at China. As much as I like Chinese history, culture and political philosophy, they penalized the merchant class so that it turned towards landlordism or other avenues out of their own (as intended), because it was seen as an uncontrolled element that didn’t get its status directly serving the imperium in approved manners, I.e. you could get rich without serving in the imperial bureaucracy. The bureaucracy of course was insular, so that China never became colonial. Obviously this hampered it’s progress in other ways. Racism takes a process like this and applies to groups of people, like blacks.

As opposed to what, equal opportunity hell under porky? If the US was slightly more racist it would have shipped them all back to Africa and stopped them from living as a marginalised diaspora group. Muhammad Ali himself spoke in favour of in-group preference.

All political correctness aside, I do think we should have sent more freed slaves to places like Liberia.


Before anyone asks, no, I'm not looking to create a white ethnostate.

[Vetalia]

Here's a better idea.

Step 1: We advance cybernetic augmentation technology.
Step 2: We advance space fairing technology.
Step 3: We popularise the concept of becoming a cyborg.
Step 4: The human race evolves into a new, cyborg race. Those who don't will die out in the coming generations (evolve or die)*. Sex, race, class Etc. becomes irrelevant, ending social barriers.
Step 5: ???
Step 6: We take to the stars and colonise the solar system.
Step 7: (Quite a lot of) Profit.
Step 8 (optional): We get involved in a war with an alien race, uniting humanity against a common enemy.

*Any primitives or technophobes will have their heads stomped in by out cyber-boots/feet.

Butlerian Jihad intensifies

Seriously, though, "racism" as it exists today is a very recent development in human history, no more recent than the past 500 years or so.

[Negev Chan]

As opposed to what, equal opportunity hell under porky? If the US was slightly more racist it would have shipped them all back to Africa and stopped them from living as a marginalised diaspora group. Muhammad Ali himself spoke in favour of in-group preference.

All political correctness aside, I do think we should have sent more freed slaves to places like Liberia.

What did he mean by this?

[Albrenia]

I, for one, welcome our new Robot Overlords.

Particularly if I get to be a robot. This meatsuit ain't gonna last forever, y'know.

[Vetalia]

All political correctness aside, I do think we should have sent more freed slaves to places like Liberia.

Before anyone asks, no, I'm not looking to create a white ethnostate.

Actually, what would have helped Liberia would have been more immigration by free blacks, many of whom were highly educated and successful businessmen, doctors, clergy, engineers, etc. The problem was the ACS simply didn't have the resources to provide for an appropriate standard of living for these emigrants and it was a hard sell convincing anyone to emigrate from their home country back to Africa, a place none of them had any connection to for generations.

[The Lone Alliance]

Yes racism does interfere with Capitalism, that's why Boycotts were so useful for the civil rights movement, it made the stores forced to choose between having minority Customers or appeasing racism.

Most of the companies eventually chose the customers over the racism.

[Otira]

One day we'll realise that we're all humans living on a very fragile planet, that is if we don't blow ourselves up because we view the majority of our own race as other.

Yeah, no. I don't subscribe to this in-group "we're all human" human racism.

For me, it's Earth life over other life. Gas the xenos, space war now.

[Arcturus Novus]

Why are Jews mentioned so heavily in the OP post?

It seems that OP is, as the cool kids say, an antisemite.

[Diahon]

nope this is bullshit

b to the u to the double l to the s to the h i t

[Rojava Free State]

All political correctness aside, I do think we should have sent more freed slaves to places like Liberia.

What did he mean by this?

Well they would have avoided the virulent racism of the post antebellum US.

[Rojava Free State]

Why are Jews mentioned so heavily in the OP post?

It seems that OP is, as the cool kids say, an antisemite.

The Jews get treated like this boogeyman and all I can think is "jeez, what did San Lumen and Fahran ever do to you, you racist asshole?"

[Kathol Rift]

It seems that OP is, as the cool kids say, an antisemite.

The Jews get treated like this boogeyman and all I can think is "jeez, what did San Lumen and Fahran ever do to you, you racist asshole?"

I dunno, maybe the OP got rejected from art school.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The Jews get treated like this boogeyman and all I can think is "jeez, what did San Lumen and Fahran ever do to you, you racist asshole?"

I dunno, maybe the OP got rejected from art school.

Thanks for making me spit my tea.

[Rojava Free State]

One day we'll realise that we're all humans living on a very fragile planet, that is if we don't blow ourselves up because we view the majority of our own race as other.

Yeah, no. I don't subscribe to this in-group "we're all human" human racism.

For me, it's Earth life over other life. Gas the xenos, space war now.

When are we gonna bomb the Martians for their attack on us in 2005?

[Arcturus Novus]

The Jews get treated like this boogeyman and all I can think is "jeez, what did San Lumen and Fahran ever do to you, you racist asshole?"

I dunno, maybe the OP got rejected from art school.

Well, I hear the army's always hiring...

What did he mean by this?

Well they would have avoided the virulent racism of the post antebellum US.

By post-antebellum, do you just mean the bellum?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Because racism is cruel, callous and borderline sociopathic, all things we need less of in this world, not more.

Yeah, no. I don't subscribe to this in-group "we're all human" human racism.

For me, it's Earth life over other life. Gas the xenos, space war now.

When are we gonna bomb the Martians for their attack on us in 2005?

I don’t think Minuteman III’s can go that far.