That reminded me of something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXtk5fEVvy4
Also.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... mptingFate
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by New yugoslavaia » Wed May 13, 2020 10:24 am
by Confessional Korea » Wed May 13, 2020 10:24 am
Jutlop wrote:I as a supporter of socialism see a bigger problem than classes tearing people apart
and that problem is people who see that races are the only things that matter instead of trying to unite everyone regardless of race.
fascism and racism, in general, is based around tearing people apart according to their ethnicities which only stays in power by using hatred amongst groups
I can't see how you like them.
They killed a lot of people
by Rojava Free State » Wed May 13, 2020 10:26 am
Roosevetania wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
It's like people who talk about white privilege. Whites on average are wealthier than black and brown people in America, so they're afforded on average more privilege than them. However, it is because of the fact they have money. If youre white and live in a box, your skin tone means nothing, and if you're black and your dad is a fortune 500 company CEO, you're EXTREMELY privileged. Jewish Americans on average have alot of power due to their socioeconomic standing, but there is no jewish cabal.
Don't you think there is more white privilege than Jewish privilege, though? For one, I think the racial wealth gap is part of white privilege, as the economic advantage whites have comes from a history of racism. How do you think white people got such a large economic advantage? Through centuries of oppression of people of color. Separate from economics, there are significant disparities in the criminal justice system. Despite using marijuana at similar rates, black people are much more likely to be arrested for it. People of color, especially black people, are disproportionately likely to be killed by police. These are just a couple of examples, and all on top of each other, I think it's hard to compare demonstrable white privilege to supposed "Jewish privilege."
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by New yugoslavaia » Wed May 13, 2020 10:26 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:All the shit the Jews helped cause during Wiemar should be enough.
It was tit for tat, eye for an eye. Two very butthurt ethnic groups and one had superior numbers so it got to unleash its butthurt extra violently. The rest is history. idgaf about the holocaust.
What shit did they cause? And what could it be that would be equivalent to the holocaust?
by Novus America » Wed May 13, 2020 10:28 am
Confessional Korea wrote:If the premise is that in-group preferences/homogeneity = better society then wouldn't class, culture, religion, community in-groups form that would outweigh the skin colour in-groups? I find that I have more in common with the working class, conservative Catholics that live near me even though they're a different race than me, than the wealthy white atheists that I went to school with even though they were the same race as me.
by Republics of Central Nations » Wed May 13, 2020 10:28 am
by Roosevetania » Wed May 13, 2020 10:32 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Roosevetania wrote:Don't you think there is more white privilege than Jewish privilege, though? For one, I think the racial wealth gap is part of white privilege, as the economic advantage whites have comes from a history of racism. How do you think white people got such a large economic advantage? Through centuries of oppression of people of color. Separate from economics, there are significant disparities in the criminal justice system. Despite using marijuana at similar rates, black people are much more likely to be arrested for it. People of color, especially black people, are disproportionately likely to be killed by police. These are just a couple of examples, and all on top of each other, I think it's hard to compare demonstrable white privilege to supposed "Jewish privilege."
Black and brown people face different treatment in the criminal justice system though due to class differences. If youre a poor kid who can't afford a lawyer, your day in court will be alot different than someone who can. And police mess with minorities more than whites because as I said, minorities tend to be poorer. The legacy of racism is at play but i don't believe it is racism itself as much as the after affects. What my point is is that the upper class is not a jewish or a white upper class. It's just an upper class. Once you're in, you're there.
by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Wed May 13, 2020 10:35 am
Roosevetania wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Black and brown people face different treatment in the criminal justice system though due to class differences. If youre a poor kid who can't afford a lawyer, your day in court will be alot different than someone who can. And police mess with minorities more than whites because as I said, minorities tend to be poorer. The legacy of racism is at play but i don't believe it is racism itself as much as the after affects. What my point is is that the upper class is not a jewish or a white upper class. It's just an upper class. Once you're in, you're there.
How do you think that whites, in general, ended up with that advantage?
by New yugoslavaia » Wed May 13, 2020 10:36 am
by Novus America » Wed May 13, 2020 10:36 am
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:Hobbes dystopia wrote:
First Nazi that I see in the forum, and obviously he does not use/understand logical reasoning.
Tell us, what are your views on the Holocaust?
1000 years of interethnic tit for tat ended in the dozenth attempt by the Germans to thump the Jews, this time for good. Didn't work as planned after the Red Army rolled into Poland.
by Atheris » Wed May 13, 2020 10:38 am
Confessional Korea wrote:Jutlop wrote:I as a supporter of socialism see a bigger problem than classes tearing people apart
and that problem is people who see that races are the only things that matter instead of trying to unite everyone regardless of race.
fascism and racism, in general, is based around tearing people apart according to their ethnicities which only stays in power by using hatred amongst groups
I can't see how you like them.
They killed a lot of people
Okay your part about fascism isn't right. Racism is about division but racism isn't intrinsic to fascism. A lot of fascists don't care about race and care more about a national, cultural or religious identity. If memory serves, that was Mussolini's attitude before he ended up becoming Hitler's bitch.
by Kong Balist » Wed May 13, 2020 10:38 am
UIS Leviathan wrote:Because you shouldn't judge a person by their skin color or ethnicity, but rather their character?
Is that really too hard for you to do?
by Khoronzon » Wed May 13, 2020 10:38 am
Rojava Free State wrote:I'm sure they do lobby for open borders. They also probably donate to a guy like trump to say "MEXICANS EVIL" so no one sees that they in fact are gonna open the border.
The capitalist class has every reason to push racism. It divides the masses and it justifies violent adventures in the middle east. Think about it. If I'm a devilish oil tycoon and I want the president to steal some oil for me in the middle east, do I want people to view Arabs as innocent victims of an unjust war by America, or as animals? This is where Islamophobia comes in. You tell people that the people in the near east are savages and that they wanna kill us so no one is out protesting against American wars which benefit the upper class. And no one is the wiser.
Audioslavia wrote:I read the OP.
What a load of utter shite. Wrong-headed mealy-mouthed wank-bag toss that can fuck off back to the shithole sub-stormfront nazi-fetish worstcunt-factory it came from.
The world is no longer as it once was, moulded beyond recognition by the hands of its coming masters. Humanity is faced with a simple choice: evolve, or die.
by Roosevetania » Wed May 13, 2020 10:39 am
by Kowani » Wed May 13, 2020 10:42 am
Khoronzon wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:I'm sure they do lobby for open borders. They also probably donate to a guy like trump to say "MEXICANS EVIL" so no one sees that they in fact are gonna open the border.
The capitalist class has every reason to push racism. It divides the masses and it justifies violent adventures in the middle east. Think about it. If I'm a devilish oil tycoon and I want the president to steal some oil for me in the middle east, do I want people to view Arabs as innocent victims of an unjust war by America, or as animals? This is where Islamophobia comes in. You tell people that the people in the near east are savages and that they wanna kill us so no one is out protesting against American wars which benefit the upper class. And no one is the wiser.
On the one hand, they definitely do benefit from a divided, atomised populace, and racism among the working class undeniably contributes to this to an extent. On the other, these benefits they gain from racism presuppose the fact that said racism takes place within a multiracial society - i.e. it isn't actually enshrined into policy, it's just something the plebs to do bicker among themselves. This doesn't apply to racism being explicitly adopted and enforced from positions of power - an ultranationalist ethnostate with closed borders would be detrimental to free trade and the global market. I very much doubt "the elites" would benefit very much if a bunch of developed countries suddenly went the way of North Korea. Besides, it isn't like the workers would suddenly gain class consciousness and roll out the guillotines if racism disappeared, and while it does serve a purpose for the rich by propping up a collective identity that isn't based on class, it still props up a collective identity, which ultimately isn't ideal for unfettered, globalised consumerism.Audioslavia wrote:I read the OP.
What a load of utter shite. Wrong-headed mealy-mouthed wank-bag toss that can fuck off back to the shithole sub-stormfront nazi-fetish worstcunt-factory it came from.
Stunning. Beautiful. Thought-provoking. I am in awe at this level of discourse.
by The Wellington Holms » Wed May 13, 2020 10:46 am
by South Acren » Wed May 13, 2020 10:48 am
Nu Alaska wrote:This thread... I'm not really sure what to say. Except no.
I'm on the spectrum as well, so count me in.
by Rojava Free State » Wed May 13, 2020 10:52 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Wed May 13, 2020 10:54 am
Atheris wrote:Confessional Korea wrote:Okay your part about fascism isn't right. Racism is about division but racism isn't intrinsic to fascism. A lot of fascists don't care about race and care more about a national, cultural or religious identity. If memory serves, that was Mussolini's attitude before he ended up becoming Hitler's bitch.
Before he sucked Hitler clean, Mussolini's style of fascism was actually about 5 attributes: Masculinity, individualism, nationalism, statism, and futurism.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Wed May 13, 2020 10:55 am
Prozitia wrote:I'm getting some strong Nazbol vibes right now.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by New yugoslavaia » Wed May 13, 2020 10:56 am
Rojava Free State wrote:New yugoslavaia wrote:
I think he's very "caerfully" trying to prance around directly saying "THE JOOZ ARE BAD AND WANT TO CAUSE WHITE/GOYIM GENIECIDE BEACUSE...JOZZ BARD!"
It's ironic because the only two non white looking Jews I've seen from America are Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons. Literally every Jew in my area looks like and identifies as your average white person, but somehow they're gonna cause white genocide.
by Thee Pum » Wed May 13, 2020 10:58 am
by Rojava Free State » Wed May 13, 2020 10:58 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
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