Why is racism bad? So capitalism can run smoothly?

[New yugoslavaia]

What are you gonna do, ban me?

That reminded me of something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXtk5fEVvy4

Also.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... mptingFate

[Confessional Korea]

I as a supporter of socialism see a bigger problem than classes tearing people apart
and that problem is people who see that races are the only things that matter instead of trying to unite everyone regardless of race.
fascism and racism, in general, is based around tearing people apart according to their ethnicities which only stays in power by using hatred amongst groups
I can't see how you like them.
They killed a lot of people

Okay your part about fascism isn't right. Racism is about division but racism isn't intrinsic to fascism. A lot of fascists don't care about race and care more about a national, cultural or religious identity. If memory serves, that was Mussolini's attitude before he ended up becoming Hitler's bitch.

[Rojava Free State]

It's like people who talk about white privilege. Whites on average are wealthier than black and brown people in America, so they're afforded on average more privilege than them. However, it is because of the fact they have money. If youre white and live in a box, your skin tone means nothing, and if you're black and your dad is a fortune 500 company CEO, you're EXTREMELY privileged. Jewish Americans on average have alot of power due to their socioeconomic standing, but there is no jewish cabal.

Don't you think there is more white privilege than Jewish privilege, though? For one, I think the racial wealth gap is part of white privilege, as the economic advantage whites have comes from a history of racism. How do you think white people got such a large economic advantage? Through centuries of oppression of people of color. Separate from economics, there are significant disparities in the criminal justice system. Despite using marijuana at similar rates, black people are much more likely to be arrested for it. People of color, especially black people, are disproportionately likely to be killed by police. These are just a couple of examples, and all on top of each other, I think it's hard to compare demonstrable white privilege to supposed "Jewish privilege."

Black and brown people face different treatment in the criminal justice system though due to class differences. If youre a poor kid who can't afford a lawyer, your day in court will be alot different than someone who can. And police mess with minorities more than whites because as I said, minorities tend to be poorer. The legacy of racism is at play but i don't believe it is racism itself as much as the after affects. What my point is is that the upper class is not a jewish or a white upper class. It's just an upper class. Once you're in, you're there.

[New yugoslavaia]

All the shit the Jews helped cause during Wiemar should be enough.
It was tit for tat, eye for an eye. Two very butthurt ethnic groups and one had superior numbers so it got to unleash its butthurt extra violently. The rest is history. idgaf about the holocaust.

What shit did they cause? And what could it be that would be equivalent to the holocaust?

I think he's very "caerfully" trying to prance around directly saying "THE JOOZ ARE BAD AND WANT TO CAUSE WHITE/GOYIM GENIECIDE BEACUSE...JOZZ BARD!"

[Novus America]

If the premise is that in-group preferences/homogeneity = better society then wouldn't class, culture, religion, community in-groups form that would outweigh the skin colour in-groups? I find that I have more in common with the working class, conservative Catholics that live near me even though they're a different race than me, than the wealthy white atheists that I went to school with even though they were the same race as me.

“class, culture, religion, community in-groups form that would outweigh the skin colour in-groups?”
Exactly. The thing is I am no leftist, and I am no neoliberal. I am actually an economic nationalist just see that race and racism is a poor foundation for unity especially in a multi-racial society, where by its very nature it divides rather than unites.

[Republics of Central Nations]

"Jew bad. Jew racist. But racist good. But jew still bad.". Is that what you're trying to say? I know english,but its not my primary language, therefore i understand most of it (not all of english though). But still, what the hell. Plus, you don't seem like a edgy troll. You seem serious. So, please explain what were you trying to say in a couple of sentences, i dont have the time and understanding of english to read a whole dang paragraph

[Roosevetania]

Don't you think there is more white privilege than Jewish privilege, though? For one, I think the racial wealth gap is part of white privilege, as the economic advantage whites have comes from a history of racism. How do you think white people got such a large economic advantage? Through centuries of oppression of people of color. Separate from economics, there are significant disparities in the criminal justice system. Despite using marijuana at similar rates, black people are much more likely to be arrested for it. People of color, especially black people, are disproportionately likely to be killed by police. These are just a couple of examples, and all on top of each other, I think it's hard to compare demonstrable white privilege to supposed "Jewish privilege."

Black and brown people face different treatment in the criminal justice system though due to class differences. If youre a poor kid who can't afford a lawyer, your day in court will be alot different than someone who can. And police mess with minorities more than whites because as I said, minorities tend to be poorer. The legacy of racism is at play but i don't believe it is racism itself as much as the after affects. What my point is is that the upper class is not a jewish or a white upper class. It's just an upper class. Once you're in, you're there.

How do you think that whites, in general, ended up with that advantage?

[Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania]

Black and brown people face different treatment in the criminal justice system though due to class differences. If youre a poor kid who can't afford a lawyer, your day in court will be alot different than someone who can. And police mess with minorities more than whites because as I said, minorities tend to be poorer. The legacy of racism is at play but i don't believe it is racism itself as much as the after affects. What my point is is that the upper class is not a jewish or a white upper class. It's just an upper class. Once you're in, you're there.

How do you think that whites, in general, ended up with that advantage?

individualism clearly

[New yugoslavaia]

How do you think that whites, in general, ended up with that advantage?

individualism clearly

Then why are you saying we need to embrace collectivism and only side with people of the same skin colour?
Why are you saying whites did so well because of embracing the opposite of what you want?

[Novus America]

First Nazi that I see in the forum, and obviously he does not use/understand logical reasoning.
Tell us, what are your views on the Holocaust?

1000 years of interethnic tit for tat ended in the dozenth attempt by the Germans to thump the Jews, this time for good. Didn't work as planned after the Red Army rolled into Poland.

No, this shows a complete misunderstanding of history. Before the partition of Poland actually most Jews lived in Poland. Naturally the Polish Jews were not big fans of their occupiers.

Also the History of Jews in Germany is very complicated. Especially given the highly decentralized nature of Germany. It was not some Manichean battle. In some German states under some rulers they were treated well, in others badly. It was not some eternal battle of one vs the other. It was very complicated.

[Atheris]

I as a supporter of socialism see a bigger problem than classes tearing people apart
and that problem is people who see that races are the only things that matter instead of trying to unite everyone regardless of race.
fascism and racism, in general, is based around tearing people apart according to their ethnicities which only stays in power by using hatred amongst groups
I can't see how you like them.
They killed a lot of people

Okay your part about fascism isn't right. Racism is about division but racism isn't intrinsic to fascism. A lot of fascists don't care about race and care more about a national, cultural or religious identity. If memory serves, that was Mussolini's attitude before he ended up becoming Hitler's bitch.

Before he sucked Hitler clean, Mussolini's style of fascism was actually about 5 attributes: Masculinity, individualism, nationalism, statism, and futurism.

[Kong Balist]

Because you shouldn't judge a person by their skin color or ethnicity, but rather their character?
Is that really too hard for you to do?

[Khoronzon]

I'm sure they do lobby for open borders. They also probably donate to a guy like trump to say "MEXICANS EVIL" so no one sees that they in fact are gonna open the border.

The capitalist class has every reason to push racism. It divides the masses and it justifies violent adventures in the middle east. Think about it. If I'm a devilish oil tycoon and I want the president to steal some oil for me in the middle east, do I want people to view Arabs as innocent victims of an unjust war by America, or as animals? This is where Islamophobia comes in. You tell people that the people in the near east are savages and that they wanna kill us so no one is out protesting against American wars which benefit the upper class. And no one is the wiser.

On the one hand, they definitely do benefit from a divided, atomised populace, and racism among the working class undeniably contributes to this to an extent. On the other, these benefits they gain from racism presuppose the fact that said racism takes place within a multiracial society - i.e. it isn't actually enshrined into policy, it's just something the plebs to do bicker among themselves. This doesn't apply to racism being explicitly adopted and enforced from positions of power - an ultranationalist ethnostate with closed borders would be detrimental to free trade and the global market. I very much doubt "the elites" would benefit very much if a bunch of developed countries suddenly went the way of North Korea. Besides, it isn't like the workers would suddenly gain class consciousness and roll out the guillotines if racism disappeared, and while it does serve a purpose for the rich by propping up a collective identity that isn't based on class, it still props up a collective identity, which ultimately isn't ideal for unfettered, globalised consumerism.

I read the OP.

What a load of utter shite. Wrong-headed mealy-mouthed wank-bag toss that can fuck off back to the shithole sub-stormfront nazi-fetish worstcunt-factory it came from.

Stunning. Beautiful. Thought-provoking. I am in awe at this level of discourse.

[Roosevetania]

How do you think that whites, in general, ended up with that advantage?

individualism clearly

Or, if you want to look at history, they were given an advantage as people of color were killed, enslaved, and generally oppressed and held down.

[Kowani]

I'm sure they do lobby for open borders. They also probably donate to a guy like trump to say "MEXICANS EVIL" so no one sees that they in fact are gonna open the border.

The capitalist class has every reason to push racism. It divides the masses and it justifies violent adventures in the middle east. Think about it. If I'm a devilish oil tycoon and I want the president to steal some oil for me in the middle east, do I want people to view Arabs as innocent victims of an unjust war by America, or as animals? This is where Islamophobia comes in. You tell people that the people in the near east are savages and that they wanna kill us so no one is out protesting against American wars which benefit the upper class. And no one is the wiser.

On the one hand, they definitely do benefit from a divided, atomised populace, and racism among the working class undeniably contributes to this to an extent. On the other, these benefits they gain from racism presuppose the fact that said racism takes place within a multiracial society - i.e. it isn't actually enshrined into policy, it's just something the plebs to do bicker among themselves. This doesn't apply to racism being explicitly adopted and enforced from positions of power - an ultranationalist ethnostate with closed borders would be detrimental to free trade and the global market. I very much doubt "the elites" would benefit very much if a bunch of developed countries suddenly went the way of North Korea. Besides, it isn't like the workers would suddenly gain class consciousness and roll out the guillotines if racism disappeared, and while it does serve a purpose for the rich by propping up a collective identity that isn't based on class, it still props up a collective identity, which ultimately isn't ideal for unfettered, globalised consumerism.

I read the OP.

What a load of utter shite. Wrong-headed mealy-mouthed wank-bag toss that can fuck off back to the shithole sub-stormfront nazi-fetish worstcunt-factory it came from.

Stunning. Beautiful. Thought-provoking. I am in awe at this level of discourse.

I would argue that rather than the removal of racism making class consciousness a necessity, the presence of it makes it an impossibility.

[The Wellington Holms]

Supporting racism.
In the year 2020.
I have no words.

[South Acren]

This thread... I'm not really sure what to say. Except no.
I'm on the spectrum as well, so count me in.

Hey hey, look at this gang. High Five bois.
I got got Aspgurgers and placed on the higher end. Glad to see there is others on here

[Rojava Free State]

What shit did they cause? And what could it be that would be equivalent to the holocaust?

I think he's very "caerfully" trying to prance around directly saying "THE JOOZ ARE BAD AND WANT TO CAUSE WHITE/GOYIM GENIECIDE BEACUSE...JOZZ BARD!"

It's ironic because the only two non white looking Jews I've seen from America are Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons. Literally every Jew in my area looks like and identifies as your average white person, but somehow they're gonna cause white genocide.

[Prozitia]

I'm getting some strong Nazbol vibes right now.

[Rojava Free State]

Okay your part about fascism isn't right. Racism is about division but racism isn't intrinsic to fascism. A lot of fascists don't care about race and care more about a national, cultural or religious identity. If memory serves, that was Mussolini's attitude before he ended up becoming Hitler's bitch.

Before he sucked Hitler clean, Mussolini's style of fascism was actually about 5 attributes: Masculinity, individualism, nationalism, statism, and futurism.

Mussolini didn't believe in pure biological races. Unfortunately that didn't stop him from being chauvinistic and condescending toward other ethnic groups, especially Slavs.

[Zentata]

I am disgusted, and am filled with utter revulsion. If you want to go talk about how racism is good, join the KKK.

[Rojava Free State]

I'm getting some strong Nazbol vibes right now.

My Nazbolmometer is going WEEEEEEEER WEEEEEEEER right now. The dial is spinning wildly.

[New yugoslavaia]

I think he's very "caerfully" trying to prance around directly saying "THE JOOZ ARE BAD AND WANT TO CAUSE WHITE/GOYIM GENIECIDE BEACUSE...JOZZ BARD!"

It's ironic because the only two non white looking Jews I've seen from America are Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons. Literally every Jew in my area looks like and identifies as your average white person, but somehow they're gonna cause white genocide.

"NOO! You can't just question our faulty narrative. You have to believe us because, er, um...because we're anti-establishments. Yeah, we're freedom fighters...for whites! Also, the left is working with the government because JOOZ! Don't question that obvious BS or else we'll call you a cuck!"

[Thee Pum]

I 'm not even going to sprend my time arguing over why racism is bad . And that doesnt make capitalism run smoothly . The apartheid in south Africa lasted for more than 40 years and durign that time the th countrie was at the worst economical position .

[Rojava Free State]

"JEWS AREN'T WHITE! THEY'RE SEMITIC!"

-Every ninth grade dropout who doesn't understand the difference between a language family and race.