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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm

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Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:But why is it bad? Why is that bad?

I've know people murdered for no reason other then racism. How is that good if you say racism isn't bad?

In 1998, during the May crisis (when according to my mom, the military was mysteriously pulled out of Jakarta), chaos and looting engulfed the capital. Thousands of racists go around the town searching for Chinese shops and houses, killing and raping them and burning them alive. If you think that's good, then I have no cure.
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Postby Novus America » Tue May 12, 2020 9:38 pm

Ors Might wrote:Race is a pretty shit way of unifying people, tbh. It relies not only upon racial identifiers being clear cut but also upon race-mixing just not being a thing.


It is. Actually a the average “white” American has more in common with the the average “black” American than they do with the average “white” Russian. Because people cannot really change their race it is a poor unifying factor completely compared to things people can choose or things like culture.
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Postby Ors Might » Tue May 12, 2020 9:38 pm

Racism is the Big Dumb, racists are bad, mock racists of every stripe
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue May 12, 2020 9:39 pm

God damn, that FWB post from the other day had a more comprehensible point than this.
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Postby South Acren » Tue May 12, 2020 9:39 pm

Atheris wrote:oh, also, another reason why racism is bad is because of a man who i won't mention by name, but it rhymes with "radolf schmitler"

I mean technically ALOT that was Antisemitism, which is discrimination against those of the Jewish faith. I mean yeah, he was inherently racist as well, but hes more known for uhhh.....you know....a better example would be the discrimination of those from Middle Eastern nations by a few countries in the west *cough* US im lookin at you *Cough* SCHMITLER didnt actually make Racism bad. He helped ruin lots of things, but racism was a problem before mr mustachio
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Postby Ors Might » Tue May 12, 2020 9:40 pm

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Ors Might wrote:Race is a pretty shit way of unifying people, tbh. It relies not only upon racial identifiers being clear cut but also upon race-mixing just not being a thing.


It is. Actually a the average “white” American has more in common with the the average “black” American than they do with the average “white” Russian. Because people cannot really change their race it is a poor unifying factor completely compared to things people can choose or things like culture.

Like I will throw fucking hands if someone suggests that I should identify with Europeans just because most of them are about as white as I am.
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Postby Theodosiya » Tue May 12, 2020 9:41 pm

Region of Dwipantara wrote:
Heloin wrote:I've know people murdered for no reason other then racism. How is that good if you say racism isn't bad?

In 1998, during the May crisis (when according to my mom, the military was mysteriously pulled out of Jakarta), chaos and looting engulfed the capital. Thousands of racists go around the town searching for Chinese shops and houses, killing and raping them and burning them alive. If you think that's good, then I have no cure.

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Postby Atheris » Tue May 12, 2020 9:43 pm

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Atheris wrote:oh, also, another reason why racism is bad is because of a man who i won't mention by name, but it rhymes with "radolf schmitler"

I mean technically ALOT that was Antisemitism, which is discrimination against those of the Jewish faith. I mean yeah, he was inherently racist as well, but hes more known for uhhh.....you know....a better example would be the discrimination of those from Middle Eastern nations by a few countries in the west *cough* US im lookin at you *Cough* SCHMITLER didnt actually make Racism bad. He helped ruin lots of things, but racism was a problem before mr mustachio

mr. schmitler was really the one that made racism prominent in the minds of most, though. a lot of people didn't condemn racism and anti-semitism before ww2, and some openly condoned it (cough woodrow wilson cough)

also, a lot of schmitler's actions in the holocaust were against roma, slavs, and people he deemed "inferior races"
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Tue May 12, 2020 9:43 pm

Racism is bad because you are discriminating a group of people thinking that your group is better based on their ethnicity. This can cause a LOT of world tension.
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Postby South Acren » Tue May 12, 2020 9:47 pm

Atheris wrote:mr. schmitler was really the one that made racism prominent in the minds of most, though. a lot of people didn't condemn racism and anti-semitism before ww2, and some openly condoned it (cough woodrow wilson cough)

also, a lot of schmitler's actions in the holocaust were against roma, slavs, and people he deemed "inferior races"

Fair point, you have a point. Mr Schmitler did cause alot of unsavory things towards "Non-Aryans" From poland all the way to the USSR. Hell he even had specialized units for....well, you know. So yeah, i can see it.
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Postby Atheris » Tue May 12, 2020 9:48 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:Racism is bad because you are discriminating a group of people thinking that your group is better based on their ethnicity. This can cause a LOT of world tension.

approximately 30% if we're going off of germany's focuses alone
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Postby Theodosiya » Tue May 12, 2020 9:48 pm

South Acren wrote:
Atheris wrote:mr. schmitler was really the one that made racism prominent in the minds of most, though. a lot of people didn't condemn racism and anti-semitism before ww2, and some openly condoned it (cough woodrow wilson cough)

also, a lot of schmitler's actions in the holocaust were against roma, slavs, and people he deemed "inferior races"

Fair point, you have a point. Mr Schmitler did cause alot of unsavory things towards "Non-Aryans" From poland all the way to the USSR. Hell he even had specialized units for....well, you know. So yeah, i can see it.

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Postby Heloin » Tue May 12, 2020 9:49 pm

Region of Dwipantara wrote:
Heloin wrote:I've know people murdered for no reason other then racism. How is that good if you say racism isn't bad?

In 1998, during the May crisis (when according to my mom, the military was mysteriously pulled out of Jakarta), chaos and looting engulfed the capital. Thousands of racists go around the town searching for Chinese shops and houses, killing and raping them and burning them alive. If you think that's good, then I have no cure.

Depressing world sometimes ain't it. I come from a group of people who embraced it to our own ends and fell victim to it. Yet at the end racism is nothing but hate for nothing real, only imaginary with real victims at the end of it.

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Postby United Walrus Clans » Tue May 12, 2020 9:54 pm

You are using fancy words to dress up racism as some sort of friendly rivalry between groups. Racism is far more evil and pernicious than you recognize. It's usually just an excuse to seize power and/or resources from another group, saying they're "savages" or "inferior" to ease one's conscience. Yes, racism has allowed nations of predominantly white people to excel, by brutally seizing resources from people in the Americas, Africa, and elsewhere. But I thought that we had gotten to a place where we can condemn are past and move past using racism as an excuse for oppression. Systematically destroying other peoples for their resources (land, labor, natural resources, etc.) is profitable, but luckily we live in an age in which we recognize how evil that behavior is.

The sort of racism that exists in most countries today is actually extremely counterproductive to the benefit of society as a whole. In the US, racism costs society. Instead of accessing the potential of many Americans, we are channeling them into lives of crime, which will strain our healthcare system, our justice system, our prison system, and the overall well-being of our society. Racism is mindless hate and prejudice based on (mostly) superficial characteristics, using up valuable resources that could be spent elsewhere. It is not even a tool to reap resources of other groups; the groups we live in are made up of many races and infighting is counterproductive, according to the model you propose, at least.

Even when racism is used to benefit the "in-group", as you say, it can be devastating. Just look at the moral degradation of the American South before the Civil War, and how they dealt with their race problems afterwards. Racism is inherently evil, and that effect can be felt in the peoples who practice it. Some of your citations of "racist" behavior are pretty weak too, like the Jews using racism to benefit their own. Obviously the Jews have been very protective of their own throughout history, but a lot of that is due to their being a minority that needed to protect itself against constant persecution.

I think the most disturbing part of your defense of racism is that you have to make such convoluted arguments to protect it, it is clear that you have very little basis for what you are saying. Prejudice is blind to the facts.

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Postby Vando0sa » Tue May 12, 2020 9:55 pm

We all agree racism is bad.. but noone pointed out we could actually end racism for good if we all became one race. All we have to do it have sex till we are all the same color.

Everyone gets laid and we end racism. Then we can spend all our time trying to get to Mars and make flying cars like Vantetine Z said.
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Postby Atheris » Tue May 12, 2020 9:58 pm

Vando0sa wrote:We all agree racism is bad.. but noone pointed out we could actually end racism for good if we all became one race. All we have to do it have sex till we are all the same color.

Everyone gets laid and we end racism. Then we can spend all our time trying to get to Mars and make flying cars like Vantetine Z said.

For once, I'll agree with the raider here. Let's just combine every color of every human on Earth and then see what we get. That's the color that we should all become.
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Postby South Acren » Tue May 12, 2020 9:59 pm

Vando0sa wrote:We all agree racism is bad.. but noone pointed out we could actually end racism for good if we all became one race. All we have to do it have sex till we are all the same color.

Everyone gets laid and we end racism. Then we can spend all our time trying to get to Mars and make flying cars like Vantetine Z said.

Is....that even possible? Scientifically maybe....but realistically no. Humans are too much of assholes to even want to work together to fix the rainforest so i doubt this could actually work. Besides theres always going to be people not interested.
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Postby Tosanchi » Tue May 12, 2020 10:00 pm

Jesus Christ

Why am I reading this cringefest at exactly 1 AM

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Postby The Burke Islands » Tue May 12, 2020 10:04 pm

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Postby Albrenia » Tue May 12, 2020 10:04 pm

Atheris wrote:
Vando0sa wrote:We all agree racism is bad.. but noone pointed out we could actually end racism for good if we all became one race. All we have to do it have sex till we are all the same color.

Everyone gets laid and we end racism. Then we can spend all our time trying to get to Mars and make flying cars like Vantetine Z said.

For once, I'll agree with the raider here. Let's just combine every color of every human on Earth and then see what we get. That's the color that we should all become.


Assuming we're all willing to die of toxic shock, silver infusions would make us all a sickly shade of blue.

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Postby The Sladerstan » Tue May 12, 2020 10:05 pm

Vando0sa wrote:We all agree racism is bad.. but noone pointed out we could actually end racism for good if we all became one race. All we have to do it have sex till we are all the same color.

Everyone gets laid and we end racism. Then we can spend all our time trying to get to Mars and make flying cars like Vantetine Z said.

Uh...
No.... to that last thing.

Or we could end racism by teaching people not to judge others based on appearance? Not to mention we already are 1 Race, the Human Race?
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Postby Kandorith » Tue May 12, 2020 10:05 pm

Well... That was enough cringe for the entire day already... And it's not even 8 in the morning yet.

BRB, buying a ticket to Mars.
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Postby Atheris » Tue May 12, 2020 10:08 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Atheris wrote:For once, I'll agree with the raider here. Let's just combine every color of every human on Earth and then see what we get. That's the color that we should all become.


Assuming we're all willing to die of toxic shock, silver infusions would make us all a sickly shade of blue.

That's sick. I'm blue, but now I'm going to da ba de da ba die.

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Postby -Astoria » Tue May 12, 2020 10:08 pm

Vando0sa wrote:We all agree racism is bad.. but noone pointed out we could actually end racism for good if we all became one race. All we have to do it have sex till we are all the same color.

Everyone gets laid and we end racism. Then we can spend all our time trying to get to Mars and make flying cars like Vantetine Z said.
Given that we bicker over every single damn thing in existence, that's gonna be a hard sell.
Kandorith wrote:Well... That was enough cringe for the entire day already... And it's not even 8 in the morning yet.

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue May 12, 2020 10:10 pm

-Astoria wrote:
Vando0sa wrote:We all agree racism is bad.. but noone pointed out we could actually end racism for good if we all became one race. All we have to do it have sex till we are all the same color.

Everyone gets laid and we end racism. Then we can spend all our time trying to get to Mars and make flying cars like Vantetine Z said.
Given that we bicker over every single damn thing in existence, that's gonna be a hard sell.
Kandorith wrote:Well... That was enough cringe for the entire day already... And it's not even 8 in the morning yet.

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