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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon May 11, 2020 4:53 pm

Eudea wrote:I like to think I would be relatively charitable and donate the majority of it to humanist, human rights and trustworthy non-profit organisations to help improve the lives of the poor, non-religious and other vilified minorities like homosexuals worldwide. Especially in the Muslim world and the Bible Belt.

However in actuality it’s possible I may or may not try and use a lot of the money in pursuing immortality and power, especially if it allowed me to then influence global politics and achieve hypothetical goals like the balkanisation of Russia, the global revival of paganism and the end of American hegemony. That is, however, quite out there to say the least but I will admit I’d love to see all 3 of those among other things.

On a more personal level I’d be more concerned with helping the entirety of my family live nicer, upper middle class lives rather than what our current living standards are like. Maybe train myself to be more aware of my spending and only spend when necessary, except in the metaphorical fight against Christian and Muslim dominance. That I would actively be a part of, especially in trying to deradicalise America and push for Islamic reformation.

So in short: I’d focus on improving my own and my family’s living standards before donating to organisations to help alleviate poverty, improve life for atheists and homosexuals, and try to topple Christianity, Islam, Russia and America. Of course this “toppling” of countries would be more in line with liberal balkanisation and nationalism in the form of ethnocultural secession.


Jesus Christ the amount of people that actually want to destabilize the world just because it's not in their perfect image is astounding.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon May 11, 2020 5:21 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Eudea wrote:I like to think I would be relatively charitable and donate the majority of it to humanist, human rights and trustworthy non-profit organisations to help improve the lives of the poor, non-religious and other vilified minorities like homosexuals worldwide. Especially in the Muslim world and the Bible Belt.

However in actuality it’s possible I may or may not try and use a lot of the money in pursuing immortality and power, especially if it allowed me to then influence global politics and achieve hypothetical goals like the balkanisation of Russia, the global revival of paganism and the end of American hegemony. That is, however, quite out there to say the least but I will admit I’d love to see all 3 of those among other things.

On a more personal level I’d be more concerned with helping the entirety of my family live nicer, upper middle class lives rather than what our current living standards are like. Maybe train myself to be more aware of my spending and only spend when necessary, except in the metaphorical fight against Christian and Muslim dominance. That I would actively be a part of, especially in trying to deradicalise America and push for Islamic reformation.

So in short: I’d focus on improving my own and my family’s living standards before donating to organisations to help alleviate poverty, improve life for atheists and homosexuals, and try to topple Christianity, Islam, Russia and America. Of course this “toppling” of countries would be more in line with liberal balkanisation and nationalism in the form of ethnocultural secession.


Jesus Christ the amount of people that actually want to destabilize the world just because it's not in their perfect image is astounding.


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Postby Green October Z » Mon May 11, 2020 5:35 pm

I will give every third world country a loan they cannot resist, but with an insanely high interest rate that they can never pay. I will then foreclose on their countries to build an empire. I will create a vast army and conquer the rest of the world. I will then use all of the world's resources for a massive space program so that I may continue my conquest by conquering the solar system and later the galaxy and later THE WHOLE FUCKING UNIVERSE NONE WILL BE SAFE FROM ME HAHAHAHAHA :twisted:
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 11, 2020 6:16 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Eudea wrote:I like to think I would be relatively charitable and donate the majority of it to humanist, human rights and trustworthy non-profit organisations to help improve the lives of the poor, non-religious and other vilified minorities like homosexuals worldwide. Especially in the Muslim world and the Bible Belt.

However in actuality it’s possible I may or may not try and use a lot of the money in pursuing immortality and power, especially if it allowed me to then influence global politics and achieve hypothetical goals like the balkanisation of Russia, the global revival of paganism and the end of American hegemony. That is, however, quite out there to say the least but I will admit I’d love to see all 3 of those among other things.

On a more personal level I’d be more concerned with helping the entirety of my family live nicer, upper middle class lives rather than what our current living standards are like. Maybe train myself to be more aware of my spending and only spend when necessary, except in the metaphorical fight against Christian and Muslim dominance. That I would actively be a part of, especially in trying to deradicalise America and push for Islamic reformation.

So in short: I’d focus on improving my own and my family’s living standards before donating to organisations to help alleviate poverty, improve life for atheists and homosexuals, and try to topple Christianity, Islam, Russia and America. Of course this “toppling” of countries would be more in line with liberal balkanisation and nationalism in the form of ethnocultural secession.


Jesus Christ the amount of people that actually want to destabilize the world just because it's not in their perfect image is astounding.

Isn't that already how most rich people act and operate on a day to day basis?
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon May 11, 2020 6:58 pm

New haven america wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Jesus Christ the amount of people that actually want to destabilize the world just because it's not in their perfect image is astounding.

Isn't that already how most rich people act and operate on a day to day basis?


That just makes it worse.
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 11, 2020 7:05 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
New haven america wrote:Isn't that already how most rich people act and operate on a day to day basis?


That just makes it worse.

There's a reason why the poorest in America tend to be conservatives who are against government assistance or social safety nets, and that's because the conservative rich in America spent the past 60 or so years making it that way through propaganda and campaigns.

So yeah, anyone who claims to want to use the money to further their own political agenda or ideals is simply following the status quo, tbh.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon May 11, 2020 7:07 pm

Tbh, I'd probably go crazy and spend my fortune on genetically engineered catgirls, a moon-projector, and a 14-part high-quality film adaptation of Homestuck.
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 11, 2020 7:09 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Tbh, I'd probably go crazy and spend my fortune on genetically engineered catgirls, a moon-projector, and a 14-part high-quality film adaptation of Homestuck.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon May 11, 2020 7:11 pm

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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Mon May 11, 2020 7:39 pm

New haven america wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Tbh, I'd probably go crazy and spend my fortune on genetically engineered catgirls, a moon-projector, and a 14-part high-quality film adaptation of Homestuck.

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Postby Remulia » Mon May 11, 2020 7:42 pm

Knowing me, I would distribute that fortune among my family in equal parts, and with what I have left, I would use it for personal expenses ... after saving half of that.
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Postby Sundiata » Mon May 11, 2020 9:13 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Sundiata wrote:$240 trillion to the Catholic Church.


$241 trillion dollars fall into your lap and your first instinct is to give it the richest organization in the world instead of helping the poor like Christ intended?

The Pope doesn't need that money, dude. The Vatican is sitting on piles of cash that could be spent to help the needy. They don't need anymore money.

The Church isn't as wealthy as it may seem; it's also one of, if not the largest charitable organization in the world. A lot of what the church has acquired has been accumulated through the centuries and can't really be approximated in terms of price. Most of what the church gives though, it gives to those in need.

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Postby -Astoria » Mon May 11, 2020 9:17 pm

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New haven america wrote:One of Us! One of Us!

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This.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon May 11, 2020 9:23 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
$241 trillion dollars fall into your lap and your first instinct is to give it the richest organization in the world instead of helping the poor like Christ intended?

The Pope doesn't need that money, dude. The Vatican is sitting on piles of cash that could be spent to help the needy. They don't need anymore money.

The Church isn't as wealthy as it may seem; it's also one of, if not the largest charitable organization in the world. A lot of what the church has acquired has been accumulated through the centuries and can't really be approximated in terms of price. Most of what the church gives though, it gives to those in need.

We do practice what we preach.

Of course, this is impossible to verify, because the Church refuses any open audit. And provides no accounting of what it does with it's money.

Which is not the sort of behavior you expect out of someone who is actually practicing what they preach.
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Postby Sundiata » Mon May 11, 2020 9:34 pm

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Sundiata wrote:The Church isn't as wealthy as it may seem; it's also one of, if not the largest charitable organization in the world. A lot of what the church has acquired has been accumulated through the centuries and can't really be approximated in terms of price. Most of what the church gives though, it gives to those in need.

We do practice what we preach.

Of course, this is impossible to verify, because the Church refuses any open audit. And provides no accounting of what it does with it's money.

Which is not the sort of behavior you expect out of someone who is actually practicing what they preach.

If you want to get to know the church in a practical sense, get to know Opus Dei. The work speaks for itself.
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Postby Grimmsland » Mon May 11, 2020 10:03 pm

give the vast majority away anonymously ASAP because otherwise I'm a target for kidnapping , robbery and blackmail!

With the ummm 100Million-1Billion I choose to keep I TRAVEL THE WORLD and in my travels I'd scope out lands and buy real estate (and pay the taxes on it for 50 years).. particularly in South America and Siberia. :clap:

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Postby Grimmsland » Mon May 11, 2020 10:11 pm

devious me: I buy ALL LAND and de-industrialize the world forcing man-kind back into hunter-gatherer (neolithic?) tribalism except for the few I place into a bio-dome for a Logan's Run experiment.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon May 11, 2020 11:50 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
$241 trillion dollars fall into your lap and your first instinct is to give it the richest organization in the world instead of helping the poor like Christ intended?

The Pope doesn't need that money, dude. The Vatican is sitting on piles of cash that could be spent to help the needy. They don't need anymore money.

The Church isn't as wealthy as it may seem; it's also one of, if not the largest charitable organization in the world. A lot of what the church has acquired has been accumulated through the centuries and can't really be approximated in terms of price.


The real estate could. Though should the price be lesser (with a church or cathedral on it, which is likely protected by law), or the greater (what a developer would pay if they were allowed to knock the church down and build something of their own) ..?

I'm no friend of the church, but I do like they keep old churches and cathedrals in cities. Instead of one more skyscraper.

Most of what the church gives though, it gives to those in need.

We do practice what we preach.


Among the church's assets are profit-bearing ones like shares. So I would judge the church's charity by whether they are becoming poorer in the process of giving to the needy. It's possibly they're just giving away what their assets are earning in income.

Suppose the church does sell some real estate. And gives the money to charity. They're not necessarily any poorer for it, considering the constant appreciation of all their other real estate.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 12, 2020 12:12 am

Certainly, I'd splurge a good deal of it, maybe take a few million and buy myself a respectable 3 bedroom home and Genesis G70 or something of that like. Perhaps buy a small condo in Montreal or Santa Fe for the summers.

But apart from that, I'm a frugal person by nature, I don't particularly like spending money on myself and I'm always far too cautious about what to do with my income as a general rule. I'd just donate just about all of the money, while being mindful of those with malicious intent to the best of my ability. But with $241 trillion, it's beyond reason that any legal team would really act in your best interest in terms of redistributing that money.

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Postby Sundiata » Tue May 12, 2020 12:39 am

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Sundiata wrote:The Church isn't as wealthy as it may seem; it's also one of, if not the largest charitable organization in the world. A lot of what the church has acquired has been accumulated through the centuries and can't really be approximated in terms of price.


The real estate could. Though should the price be lesser (with a church or cathedral on it, which is likely protected by law), or the greater (what a developer would pay if they were allowed to knock the church down and build something of their own) ..?

I'm no friend of the church, but I do like they keep old churches and cathedrals in cities. Instead of one more skyscraper.

Most of what the church gives though, it gives to those in need.

We do practice what we preach.


Among the church's assets are profit-bearing ones like shares. So I would judge the church's charity by whether they are becoming poorer in the process of giving to the needy. It's possibly they're just giving away what their assets are earning in income.

Suppose the church does sell some real estate. And gives the money to charity. They're not necessarily any poorer for it, considering the constant appreciation of all their other real estate.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue May 12, 2020 12:44 am

Maybe the church could stop taking collection money from the poor.
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Postby Sundiata » Tue May 12, 2020 12:51 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Maybe the church could stop taking collection money from the poor.

The charitable are given more in heaven than they can possibly receive on this earth.
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Postby Saint Nicholas and the Hussars » Tue May 12, 2020 12:59 am

Neanderthaland wrote:Tbh, I'd probably go crazy and spend my fortune on genetically engineered catgirls, a moon-projector, and a 14-part high-quality film adaptation of Homestuck.

Make a huge dome with very human-like AI characters to inhabit. The dome has a realistic city, setting, background and all. Its very own world, really. Then, put this guy in it, and see how long it takes him to figure out his new reality. Put the cat girls in it, but he if touches one it turns into a tall pure white dude with weird hands that look like claws and glowing eyes. Make it seem normal to him. Also, make it ground hog day.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue May 12, 2020 12:59 am

Thermodolia wrote:That number is so large that I’d have trouble comprehending how rich I’d be let alone figure out what to do with it

This. Very much this. With that much money, the answer to "what would you do" can be summed up in 6 words:

Yes, yes, yes! Oh my God...

Seriously, though: when you have what is essentially a literal carte blanche in hand, it no longer becomes a question of "what you can do," but a question of "what you can't do."
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Burn half of it (but really burn all of it) to send Batman a message.

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