Measure of a Man

[The Blaatschapen]

In the interests of equal time, the measure of a man per Rudy Ray Moore:

He was born in a barrel of butcher knives
Shot in the ass with two Colt .45s
He's been slapped by a bear and bit by an eel
He chews up railroad iron and shits out steel
He jumped in the ocean and swallowed a whale
Handcuffed lightning and threw thunder in jail

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I would've said Teddy Roosevelt.

Please, if anything, a Tru man would use nuclear bombs as a part of warfare.

[Geneviev]

That's true, but the different interpretations are relatively similar to each other by being based on the same book. Atheism doesn't have that similarity.

Not in my experience. I was raised Christian and went to multiple different churches which all seemed to have pretty different outlooks.

Pretty different, yes. But they all have certain similarities. In this case specifically, they would all believe in differences between men and women.

[Green October Z]

Not in my experience. I was raised Christian and went to multiple different churches which all seemed to have pretty different outlooks.

Pretty different, yes. But they all have certain similarities. In this case specifically, they would all believe in differences between men and women.

One haven't been to some of the churches I have been to

[Geneviev]

Pretty different, yes. But they all have certain similarities. In this case specifically, they would all believe in differences between men and women.

One haven't been to some of the churches I have been to

At least that's what is written in the Bible.

[Green October Z]

One haven't been to some of the churches I have been to

At least that's what is written in the Bible.

Once again, different churches have different interpretations.

[Geneviev]

At least that's what is written in the Bible.

Once again, different churches have different interpretations.

Their interpretations should theoretically all be similar to what is in the Bible. Otherwise, I don't know how Christian they are.

[Green October Z]

Once again, different churches have different interpretations.

Their interpretations should theoretically all be similar to what is in the Bible. Otherwise, I don't know how Christian they are.

That never gets old

[Geneviev]

Their interpretations should theoretically all be similar to what is in the Bible. Otherwise, I don't know how Christian they are.

That never gets old

It's about 2000 years old, by my estimate.

That's because the Bible is part of Christianity, and ignoring it isn't very Christian. But people have been doing that for a while anyway.

[Andsed]

Being a decent person. You can be super macho and domineering, but if your acting like a total scumbag your not "a real man" imo.

[Antityranicals]

I believe that manliness is best expressed in the ideal of chivalry. Chivalry is a combination of the seemingly contradictory qualities of fierceness and gentleness. The chivalrous man is evil's worst nightmare, and good's best friend.

[Eahland]

I believe that manliness is best expressed in the ideal of chivalry. Chivalry is a combination of the seemingly contradictory qualities of fierceness and gentleness. The chivalrous man is evil's worst nightmare, and good's best friend.

"Chivalry" is just a guy on a horse.

[Antityranicals]

I believe that manliness is best expressed in the ideal of chivalry. Chivalry is a combination of the seemingly contradictory qualities of fierceness and gentleness. The chivalrous man is evil's worst nightmare, and good's best friend.

"Chivalry" is just a guy on a horse.

Nah. That's a knight. Sure, knights were supposed to be chivalrous, but that's like saying that toughness is just a panzer tank

[The Huskar Social Union]

I believe that manliness is best expressed in the ideal of chivalry. Chivalry is a combination of the seemingly contradictory qualities of fierceness and gentleness. The chivalrous man is evil's worst nightmare, and good's best friend.

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I believe that manliness is best expressed in the ideal of chivalry. Chivalry is a combination of the seemingly contradictory qualities of fierceness and gentleness. The chivalrous man is evil's worst nightmare, and good's best friend.

"Chivalry" is just a guy on a horse.

*intense Bretonnian Noises*

[The Sladerstan]

So basically "catholicism is right, protestants are wrong."

Not just that, the ideas which led there eventually lead to atheism.

What ideas are those? I mean, maybe Liberal Protestantism leads to it, but not Protestantism as a whole.

[Antityranicals]

Not just that, the ideas which led there eventually lead to atheism.

What ideas are those? I mean, maybe Liberal Protestantism leads to it, but not Protestantism as a whole.

Well, I think that the "reformation" bit of the Protestant Reformation has always been a bit overblown. Really, the main result was the destruction of medieval separation of church and state, which, while quite different than enlightenment separation of church and state, had similar ramifications. Before the Protestant Reformation, the church and the state were rivals. Neither was definitely more powerful than the other, and this rivalry left a degree of freedom to those in between. However, after the Protestant Reformation, the conclusion "the religion of the prince is the religion of the people." made the church subservient to the state.

From here, much of the enlightenment conflicted the tyranny of the prince with the hapless church. Now, I am of the opinion that the church shouldn't have been so willing to play toadie to the state. I think it would have been better had it condemned the powers attempting to use it for their own gains. But I can understand why church leaders of the 16th-18th centuries didn't do this, because the result would have been an underground church the likes of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd century Rome. But nonetheless, much of Atheistic thought can be traced back to this disasterous result of the Protestant Reformation.

Anyway, I don't want to threadjack. If you're interested, I wonder if this would be an interesting subject to talk about over in the CDT.

[Green October Z]

I believe that manliness is best expressed in the ideal of chivalry. Chivalry is a combination of the seemingly contradictory qualities of fierceness and gentleness. The chivalrous man is evil's worst nightmare, and good's best friend.

Very well said, I'd say.

[Atheris]

So basically "catholicism is right, protestants are wrong."

Not just that, the ideas which led there eventually lead to atheism.

What?

Protestantism didn't lead to atheism. Atheism has existed for millennia before Protestantism. (As seen on the Wikipedia page for Atheism: "...ideas that would be recognized today as atheistic are documented from the Vedic period and the classical antiquity."

The Vedic period is from 600 BCE. Classical Antiquity is between 8 BC and 6 AD. Western-style atheism actually came from pre-Socratic Greek philosophy, especially from the theories of Democritus and Protagoras, who wrote "the gods of popular belief do not exist nor do they know, but primitive man, [out of admiration, deified] the fruits of the earth and virtually everything that contributed to his existence." Especially important and noteworthy is Epicurus, who founded the school of Epucureanism and helped lead the way for scientific determinism.

Protestantism and reformed Christianity first came into being after 1517, after Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of the church. If you didn't know, 1517 is in the 16th century, but 6 AD is in the 1st century.

Read a book besides the Bible, please.

[Eahland]

"Chivalry" is just a guy on a horse.

Nah. That's a knight. Sure, knights were supposed to be chivalrous, but that's like saying that toughness is just a panzer tank

"Knight" is actually the only word for the concept that I know of that doesn't mean "a guy on a horse".

[The Alma Mater]

Nah. That's a knight. Sure, knights were supposed to be chivalrous, but that's like saying that toughness is just a panzer tank

"Knight" is actually the only word for the concept that I know of that doesn't mean "a guy on a horse".

I thought a knight by definition was a mounted soldier ?

[Shanghai industrial complex]

"Knight" is actually the only word for the concept that I know of that doesn't mean "a guy on a horse".

I thought a knight by definition was a mounted soldier ?

Knights now belong to the class of nobility and honor.Chivalry also represents a spirit of nobility ,Now it is used as a reference to a noble character.

[Eahland]

"Knight" is actually the only word for the concept that I know of that doesn't mean "a guy on a horse".

I thought a knight by definition was a mounted soldier ?

Chivalry, cavalier, cavalry, chevalier, cabellero, Ritter, equestrian... are all literally "horseman" or "rider". "Knight" comes from Old English cniht, which is literally "boy-child" or "serving-boy".

[Dreisburg]

A true man is not a woman!
Ministry of man of Dreisburg

[Sundiata]

Not just that, the ideas which led there eventually lead to atheism.

What?

Protestantism didn't lead to atheism. Atheism has existed for millennia before Protestantism. (As seen on the Wikipedia page for Atheism: "...ideas that would be recognized today as atheistic are documented from the Vedic period and the classical antiquity."

The Vedic period is from 600 BCE. Classical Antiquity is between 8 BC and 6 AD. Western-style atheism actually came from pre-Socratic Greek philosophy, especially from the theories of Democritus and Protagoras, who wrote "the gods of popular belief do not exist nor do they know, but primitive man, [out of admiration, deified] the fruits of the earth and virtually everything that contributed to his existence." Especially important and noteworthy is Epicurus, who founded the school of Epucureanism and helped lead the way for scientific determinism.

Protestantism and reformed Christianity first came into being after 1517, after Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of the church. If you didn't know, 1517 is in the 16th century, but 6 AD is in the 1st century.

Read a book besides the Bible, please.

The misconception we're having here is not that the idea that atheism has a long history. What I'm suggesting is that the ideas which lead to widespread protestantism inevitably generate widespread modernism, it's widespread modernism that ultimately culminates in widespread atheism. The further away one veers from Catholic doctrine, the closer one is to atheism.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

I thought a knight by definition was a mounted soldier ?

Chivalry, cavalier, cavalry, chevalier, cabellero, Ritter, equestrian... are all literally "horseman" or "rider". "Knight" comes from Old English cniht, which is literally "boy-child" or "serving-boy".

There are some differences between it and cniht.
origin
Old English cniht ‘boy, youth, servant’, of West Germanic origin; related to Dutch knecht and German Knecht .From Oxford

[Green October Z]

Chivalry, cavalier, cavalry, chevalier, cabellero, Ritter, equestrian... are all literally "horseman" or "rider". "Knight" comes from Old English cniht, which is literally "boy-child" or "serving-boy".

There are some differences between it and cniht.
origin
Old English cniht ‘boy, youth, servant’, of West Germanic origin; related to Dutch knecht and German Knecht .From Oxford

Fun fact: Girl originally just meant child (regardless of sex).