Measure of a Man

[Geneviev]

So basically "catholicism is right, protestants are wrong."

Not just that, the ideas which led there eventually lead to atheism.

I'm not sure about that. Catholicism is pretty good at making atheists.

[Sundiata]

Not just that, the ideas which led there eventually lead to atheism.

I'm not sure about that. Catholicism is pretty good at making atheists.

Heresy is so prevalent today that people often skip to atheism, yes.

[Geneviev]

I'm not sure about that. Catholicism is pretty good at making atheists.

Heresy is so prevalent today that people often skip to atheism, yes.

I guess you can see it that way. The heresy is in the Church too.

[Green October Z]

How did a thread about masculinity turn into a discussion about protestantism vs catholicism vs atheism?

[Rojava Free State]

How did a thread about masculinity turn into a discussion about protestantism vs catholicism vs atheism?

I guess Christians think they're the most manly men. That's aight I guess. Let them talk. Everybody gangsta till the dodge ram with the 666 license plate and the Melvins playing on repeat drives up on them.

[Geneviev]

How did a thread about masculinity turn into a discussion about protestantism vs catholicism vs atheism?

Because the three of them have different opinions on masculinity.

[Green October Z]

How did a thread about masculinity turn into a discussion about protestantism vs catholicism vs atheism?

Because the three of them have different opinions on masculinity.

Atheism has teachings on masculinity?

[Geneviev]

Because the three of them have different opinions on masculinity.

Atheism has teachings on masculinity?

Not necessarily, but most atheists have different opinions on it than any Christian denomination.

[Pax Nerdvana]

In the interests of equal time, the measure of a man per Rudy Ray Moore:

He was born in a barrel of butcher knives
Shot in the ass with two Colt .45s
He's been slapped by a bear and bit by an eel
He chews up railroad iron and shits out steel
He jumped in the ocean and swallowed a whale
Handcuffed lightning and threw thunder in jail

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I would've said Teddy Roosevelt.

[Green October Z]

Atheism has teachings on masculinity?

Not necessarily, but most atheists have different opinions on it than any Christian denomination.

Do you have any statistics to back that up?

[Rojava Free State]

In the interests of equal time, the measure of a man per Rudy Ray Moore:

He was born in a barrel of butcher knives
Shot in the ass with two Colt .45s
He's been slapped by a bear and bit by an eel
He chews up railroad iron and shits out steel
He jumped in the ocean and swallowed a whale
Handcuffed lightning and threw thunder in jail

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I would've said Teddy Roosevelt.

I was thinking George Patton.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

How did a thread about masculinity turn into a discussion about protestantism vs catholicism vs atheism?

We should probably be thankful it isn't all dick jokes.

[Diopolis]

Well, I ultimately think it means living the seven lively virtues: chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, and humility. If a man lives in such a way and works to overcome sin, he effectively can be referred to as a good man.

You've said nothing man specific, here.
In Genesis, at the punishment of Adam and Eve, the lord defines gender roles clearly.

And to Adam he said: Because thou hast hearkened to the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldst not eat, cursed is the earth in thy work; with labour and toil shalt thou eat thereof all the days of thy life. [18] Thorns and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herbs of the earth. [19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth, out of which thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and into dust thou shalt return.

Work and hardship, and overcoming hardship, are defining. Also mortality and, in the context of the verse, headship over the family and responsibility.

[Green October Z]

How did a thread about masculinity turn into a discussion about protestantism vs catholicism vs atheism?

We should probably be thankful it isn't all dick jokes.

There were a couple a few pages back

[Geneviev]

Not necessarily, but most atheists have different opinions on it than any Christian denomination.

Do you have any statistics to back that up?

It's just an observation that I have made. No, I don't know of statistics to back it up. The reason I say it, though, is that the Christian perspective on masculinity is based on the Bible and atheists don't use it, so Christians usually are more traditional.

[Inner Firatrundessia]

I agree to an extent. While there are biological different between males and females, both are subject to stereotypical and harmful gender roles. Toxic masculinity can hurt and a lot of men can suffer from not being the 'ideal' man.

This is why some radical feminists push to abolish gender. I'm not one of those people, I understand that gender roles are opressive but they are necessary on some level in order to understand the framework for our society and how patriarchy functions. And more people need to realize that you can point out biological differences in men and womyn while at the same time recognizing that not everyone will fit the 'ideal' mold that patriarchy often forces us into.

[Green October Z]

Do you have any statistics to back that up?

It's just an observation that I have made. No, I don't know of statistics to back it up. The reason I say it, though, is that the Christian perspective on masculinity is based on the Bible and atheists don't use it, so Christians usually are more traditional.

Anecdote=no data

[Geneviev]

It's just an observation that I have made. No, I don't know of statistics to back it up. The reason I say it, though, is that the Christian perspective on masculinity is based on the Bible and atheists don't use it, so Christians usually are more traditional.

Anecdote=no data

Right. But I'm sure you agree that Christians are more likely to have beliefs based on the Bible.

[Green October Z]

Anecdote=no data

Right. But I'm sure you agree that Christians are more likely to have beliefs based on the Bible.

Yes, but there are many different interpretations of it.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Not just that, the ideas which led there eventually lead to atheism.

I'm not sure about that. Catholicism is pretty good at making atheists.

Used to be a catholic can confirm.

[US-SSR]

The measure of a man is how swiftly he will lie himself or his fine jacket across a puddle or source of other filth in order for a lady to cross it without dirtying her shoes or getting wet feet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X18s_8gKd8

Hello M'Lady

[Geneviev]

Right. But I'm sure you agree that Christians are more likely to have beliefs based on the Bible.

Yes, but there are many different interpretations of it.

That's true, but the different interpretations are relatively similar to each other by being based on the same book. Atheism doesn't have that similarity.

[US-SSR]

I would've said Teddy Roosevelt.

I was thinking George Patton.

Not neither. Dolemite.

[US-SSR]

So basically "catholicism is right, protestants are wrong."

Not just that, the ideas which led there eventually lead to atheism.

In fairness to the Church, that's a little old fashioned. As I understand it the Catholic position is that, while other religions may contain elements of truth, only the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church contains all of The Truth without anything of Error; and while it declines to impose limits on God as far as who He will or will not admit into His Heaven, it does assert that anyone who is not a Catholic is in grave peril of going to Hell. It's moved on somewhat, then, from burning Protestants, apostate Jews, etc., etc., at the stake.

[Green October Z]

Yes, but there are many different interpretations of it.

That's true, but the different interpretations are relatively similar to each other by being based on the same book. Atheism doesn't have that similarity.

Not in my experience. I was raised Christian and went to multiple different churches which all seemed to have pretty different outlooks.