Open Season: "Vigilantes" Shoot Black Jogger in Georgia

[Arkhane]

Obviously, if someone is armed and telling me to stop, self preservation usually wins, I have been mugged before in the past.

Again, what does it matter what you would have done? You weren't there.

He was asking me a question to how would I respond of two armed black men told me to stop. This whole "you're not there so you have no say" is getting really repetitive.

[Ifreann]

True, but why then did you make all those false claims like 20 miles and burglaries in your post ?
The first vid in your sources also is not new - police already commented on that days ago.

Nevertheless, thanks for the sources. I will now watch them all

I guess I misread the comments, it's filled with people defending the man that got shot and the ones who are claiming that he is guilty.

From what I gleaned and what I've seen and what I know of the people who shot him, this has been going on for quite some time before the confrontation.

It doesn't matter if that particular neighbourhood had been victim to the crime wave of the century, that does not give random men with guns the authority to detain someone they suspect is involved.

[Rojava Free State]

I watched the new footage on youtube but I didn't save it, I tried to look at the lengthy footage again, but the recent results with the first being the one covered by ABC, https://youtu.be/nMzcdGotbas
followed by this more recent update three minutes ago: https://youtu.be/NAVzFTnUmNo

It took me a while, but this compilation is the one I found, but it's not the one I actually watched since it didn't have any commentary or explanations: https://youtu.be/6Z99E6Vq6Hc

I love how the news report you link to contradicts your initial statement, with it saying their were no reported robberies and Arbery wasn't breaking the law.

It wasn't even fake news from Breitbart or VDare. It was the news we were all watching which said that Ahmaud was not a burglar.

[The Alma Mater]

I love how the news report you link to contradicts your initial statement, with it saying their were no reported robberies and Arbery wasn't breaking the law.

At the time, at least, but it would be a cold day in hell before they openly say that the new found footage is could prove that Ahmaud wasn't completely innocent. The MSM is like that.

What are you talking about ? They already shared that he had been the subject of police investigations in the past.
But nothing recent. And certainly nothing warranting hunting him like an animal and killing him.

[Arkhane]

I guess I misread the comments, it's filled with people defending the man that got shot and the ones who are claiming that he is guilty.

From what I gleaned and what I've seen and what I know of the people who shot him, this has been going on for quite some time before the confrontation.

It doesn't matter if that particular neighbourhood had been victim to the crime wave of the century, that does not give random men with guns the authority to detain someone they suspect is involved.

The thing is, they're not just random men with guns. they had some history with each other before all of this.

[Cannot think of a name]

I find your lack of sources predictable.

I watched the new footage on youtube but I didn't save it, I tried to look at the lengthy footage again, but the recent results with the first being the one covered by ABC, https://youtu.be/nMzcdGotbas

First of all, is that motherfucker wearing an ascot? High five, man. That is awesome.

Second...well, that doesn't support anything you've said. In fact it underlines that Ahmaud Arbery did not commit a felony nor was his stop by people without the authority to do so was warranted.

followed by this more recent update three minutes ago: https://youtu.be/NAVzFTnUmNo

This video underlines that there have been no reports of break ins in the last two months. Again, supports none of your extraordinary claims.

It took me a while, but this compilation is the one I found, but it's not the one I actually watched since it didn't have any commentary or explanations: https://youtu.be/6Z99E6Vq6Hc

This is not a compilation, it's 22 minutes of a surveillance video aimed at a street where nothing happens.

None of these sources support your extraordinary claims.

None of them put him 20 miles from home.

These sources explicitly debunk the idea of a 'series of thefts'. The videos that do show break ins do not show theft nor do they clearly indicate that they were Ahmoud nor that the murders had any knowledge of that. Even if they did, it was not immediate knowledge of a crime and did not justify a citizens arrest, which they did not announce, they showed up with guns and tried to detain him.

Arbery acted in self defense because he had every right to believe he was in mortal danger. The murders had no right to threaten him with weapons or stop him.

Again, your lack of sources is predictable. The fact that you didn't even watch them is even more so.

[Ifreann]

Again, what does it matter what you would have done? You weren't there.

He was asking me a question to how would I respond of two armed black men told me to stop. This whole "you're not there so you have no say" is getting really repetitive.

I'm not telling you not to have and express an opinion on this story. I am asking you why you keep talking about what you would have done if strange men with guns had tried to detain you. What point are you trying to make by imagining what you might have done differently to Arbery? Are we meant to infer some kind of criticism of Arbery? Is there even a point? Is this just something you find interesting to think about?

[Rojava Free State]

It doesn't matter if that particular neighbourhood had been victim to the crime wave of the century, that does not give random men with guns the authority to detain someone they suspect is involved.

The thing is, they're not just random men with guns. they had some history with each other before all of this.

No one ever said the two shooters didn't have a history with each other. They're family.

[Arkhane]

At the time, at least, but it would be a cold day in hell before they openly say that the new found footage is could prove that Ahmaud wasn't completely innocent. The MSM is like that.

What are you talking about ? They already shared that he had been the subject of police investigations in the past.
But nothing recent. And certainly nothing warranting hunting him like an animal and killing him.

I found something else, it's another recent one, and I havent watched the entire video, but the guy is watching the footage I've seen, does that help? https://youtu.be/YQIuIcqi9sA

[Arkhane]

He was asking me a question to how would I respond of two armed black men told me to stop. This whole "you're not there so you have no say" is getting really repetitive.

I'm not telling you not to have and express an opinion on this story. I am asking you why you keep talking about what you would have done if strange men with guns had tried to detain you. What point are you trying to make by imagining what you might have done differently to Arbery? Are we meant to infer some kind of criticism of Arbery? Is there even a point? Is this just something you find interesting to think about?

Because they were asking me to? Duh.

[Cannot think of a name]

I love how the news report you link to contradicts your initial statement, with it saying their were no reported robberies and Arbery wasn't breaking the law.

At the time, at least, but it would be a cold day in hell before they openly say that the new found footage is could prove that Ahmaud wasn't completely innocent. The MSM is like that.

Well, conspiracy theories didn't take long.

[Arkhane]

The thing is, they're not just random men with guns. they had some history with each other before all of this.

No one ever said the two shooters didn't have a history with each other. They're family.

I'm talking about the shooters and the alleged robber

[Spirit of Hope]

It doesn't matter if that particular neighbourhood had been victim to the crime wave of the century, that does not give random men with guns the authority to detain someone they suspect is involved.

The thing is, they're not just random men with guns. they had some history with each other before all of this.

The only history was that the father was maybe involved with investigating Arbery 6-7 years ago. Which isn't exactly relevant to these events.

As to your claims about the evil main stream media, you appear to have simply made up facts about the events with no supporting evidence, while the media has been pointing to videos, police statements, police records, and the suspects statements.

Again, source for the 20 miles, and any evidence that Arbery has been caught stealing anything from the neighborhood?

[Arkhane]

At the time, at least, but it would be a cold day in hell before they openly say that the new found footage is could prove that Ahmaud wasn't completely innocent. The MSM is like that.

Well, conspiracy theories didn't take long.

it's not really a conspiracy theory when youtube's algorithm enjoys sensoring neutral stuff.

[Cannot think of a name]

What are you talking about ? They already shared that he had been the subject of police investigations in the past.
But nothing recent. And certainly nothing warranting hunting him like an animal and killing him.

I found something else, it's another recent one, and I havent watched the entire video, but the guy is watching the footage I've seen, does that help? https://youtu.be/YQIuIcqi9sA

Ooooooh, you're getting your info from unsourced youtube conspiracy channels.

Predictable.

[Arkhane]

The thing is, they're not just random men with guns. they had some history with each other before all of this.

The only history was that the father was maybe involved with investigating Arbery 6-7 years ago. Which isn't exactly relevant to these events.

As to your claims about the evil main stream media, you appear to have simply made up facts about the events with no supporting evidence, while the media has been pointing to videos, police statements, police records, and the suspects statements.

Again, source for the 20 miles, and any evidence that Arbery has been caught stealing anything from the neighborhood?

The footage of him entering houses that weren't his. Obviously. And I stand corrected, it was just two miles.

[Rojava Free State]

He was asking me a question to how would I respond of two armed black men told me to stop. This whole "you're not there so you have no say" is getting really repetitive.

I'm not telling you not to have and express an opinion on this story. I am asking you why you keep talking about what you would have done if strange men with guns had tried to detain you. What point are you trying to make by imagining what you might have done differently to Arbery? Are we meant to infer some kind of criticism of Arbery? Is there even a point? Is this just something you find interesting to think about?

The funny thing is he can say that because he isn't actually in the situation. It's kind of like firedrills. When I was in elementary school, we always would have these orderly fire drills where everyone walked in a single file line out of the building quietly. Then one day a real fire broke out in the library due to an electrical issue and it was big, and everyone panicked and began desperately fleeing for the doors, screaming and crying in terror.

You can say you would have obeyed the men with guns but when it happens, will you really? Ill be honest, if I found myself being chased by two guys in a truck, I would run too, and if cornered, there would be a shootout because I never go anywhere alone and I never go anywhere besides work unarmed. Screw this "obey the randos with weapons" crap, cause if you do you will likely get robbed.

[Cannot think of a name]

Well, conspiracy theories didn't take long.

it's not really a conspiracy theory when youtube's algorithm enjoys sensoring neutral stuff.

You can't layer conspiracy on top of conspiracy to dismiss things as not conspiracy.

[Rojava Free State]

The only history was that the father was maybe involved with investigating Arbery 6-7 years ago. Which isn't exactly relevant to these events.

As to your claims about the evil main stream media, you appear to have simply made up facts about the events with no supporting evidence, while the media has been pointing to videos, police statements, police records, and the suspects statements.

Again, source for the 20 miles, and any evidence that Arbery has been caught stealing anything from the neighborhood?

The footage of him entering houses that weren't his. Obviously. And I stand corrected, it was just two miles.

Footage you haven't shown.

[Arkhane]

I found something else, it's another recent one, and I havent watched the entire video, but the guy is watching the footage I've seen, does that help? https://youtu.be/YQIuIcqi9sA

Ooooooh, you're getting your info from unsourced youtube conspiracy channels.

Predictable.

I wonder which is more of a conspiracy theory: that every black person being shot is always racially motivated, or that there is always another side to something that media almost never shows.

[Rojava Free State]

I found something else, it's another recent one, and I havent watched the entire video, but the guy is watching the footage I've seen, does that help? https://youtu.be/YQIuIcqi9sA

Ooooooh, you're getting your info from unsourced youtube conspiracy channels.

Predictable.

Of course it's the fake leftist Tim Pool.

[Arkhane]

The footage of him entering houses that weren't his. Obviously. And I stand corrected, it was just two miles.

Footage you haven't shown.

I gave you the links. At this point, I might have to open a notepad or account and start saving them for references.

[Rojava Free State]

Ooooooh, you're getting your info from unsourced youtube conspiracy channels.

Predictable.

I wonder which is more of a conspiracy theory: that every black person being shot is always racially motivated, or that there is always another side to something that media almost never shows.

Most black people who get shot aren't shot over race. This case sure seems suspicious though when two white guys in a truck chase a random black guy over burglaries that happened months ago.

[Arkhane]

Ooooooh, you're getting your info from unsourced youtube conspiracy channels.

Predictable.

Of course it's the fake leftist Tim Pool.

I watched his video, he seemed open minded and not like your usual dismissive one dimensional leftist.

[Cannot think of a name]

The only history was that the father was maybe involved with investigating Arbery 6-7 years ago. Which isn't exactly relevant to these events.

As to your claims about the evil main stream media, you appear to have simply made up facts about the events with no supporting evidence, while the media has been pointing to videos, police statements, police records, and the suspects statements.

Again, source for the 20 miles, and any evidence that Arbery has been caught stealing anything from the neighborhood?

The footage of him entering houses that weren't his. Obviously. And I stand corrected, it was just two miles.

House, singular. Which, as your own sources have pointed out, is not a felony and does not authorize anyone to detain him while brandishing weapons.