Open Season: "Vigilantes" Shoot Black Jogger in Georgia

[Cannot think of a name]

The man that got shot was caught on CCTV stealing from several houses in the neighborhood for several nights. He was found 20 miles away from where he actually lived, so the whole "he was just going for a jog" that I keep hearing people say is total bull. The father and son tried to confront and apprehend him, the thief resisted and tried to grab their gun, they fired in self defense.

Fiction goes in the other forum.

[Arkhane]

The man that got shot was caught on CCTV stealing from several houses in the neighborhood for several nights. He was found 20 miles away from where he actually lived, so the whole "he was just going for a jog" that I keep hearing people say is total bull. The father and son tried to confront and apprehend him, the thief resisted and tried to grab their gun, they fired in self defense.

Even if everything you say is true, they had no authority to arrest Arbery.

If I begun to notice that there have been a man raiding houses for several nights and I found him near my house, and I have the arms and the necessary training, I wouldn't give him the chance to get away.

The sensible thing to do would be to catch him and call the authorities, and if I figured out from watching the footage that he seemed to be carrying a weapon based on his hand gestures, I wouldn't go outside and confront him without any weapons.

And if I ordered him to stop and he did the opposite by barelling straight into me in an attempt to yank my shotgun away, I would have fired and done the same.

The irresponsible thing would be to allow the man to roam and potentially meet someone unsuspecting and unarmed and risk innocent lives.

[Arkhane]

The man that got shot was caught on CCTV stealing from several houses in the neighborhood for several nights. He was found 20 miles away from where he actually lived, so the whole "he was just going for a jog" that I keep hearing people say is total bull. The father and son tried to confront and apprehend him, the thief resisted and tried to grab their gun, they fired in self defense.

Fiction goes in the other forum.

Ofcourse, it's much more comfortable to just scream "racism" than actually look at any updates on the investigation.

[The Alma Mater]

Fiction goes in the other forum.

Ofcourses, it's much more comfortable to just scream "racism" than actually look at any updates on the investigation.

Do you have a link ? Because yesterday the police said there had been no burglaries there

[Rojava Free State]

Ofcourses, it's much more comfortable to just scream "racism" than actually look at any updates on the investigation.

Do you have a link ? Because yesterday the police said there had been no burglaries there

It's probably VDare lmao.

[Ifreann]

Even if everything you say is true, they had no authority to arrest Arbery.

If I begun to notice that there have been a man raiding houses for several nights and I found him near my house, and I have the arms and the necessary training, I wouldn't give him the chance to get away.

The sensible thing to do would be to catch him and call the authorities, and if I figured out from watching the footage that he seemed to be carrying a weapon based on his hand gestures, I wouldn't go outside and confront him without any weapons.

And if I ordered him to stop and he did the opposite by barelling straight into me in an attempt to yank my shotgun away, I would have fired and done the same.

The irresponsible thing would be to allow the man to roam and potentially meet someone unsuspecting and unarmed and risk innocent lives.

What you think is sensible or irresponsible is irrelevant. The killers had no authority to arrest Arbery. If they were illegally trying to detain him, which is what I understand they have claimed to have been doing, then he obviously had every right to use force to defend himself.

[Cannot think of a name]

Fiction goes in the other forum.

Ofcourse, it's much more comfortable to just scream "racism" than actually look at any updates on the investigation.

I find your lack of sources predictable.

[Rojava Free State]

Ofcourse, it's much more comfortable to just scream "racism" than actually look at any updates on the investigation.

I find your lack of sources predictable.

Looks like another case of the "black man bad" narrative.

[Arkhane]

If I begun to notice that there have been a man raiding houses for several nights and I found him near my house, and I have the arms and the necessary training, I wouldn't give him the chance to get away.

The sensible thing to do would be to catch him and call the authorities, and if I figured out from watching the footage that he seemed to be carrying a weapon based on his hand gestures, I wouldn't go outside and confront him without any weapons.

And if I ordered him to stop and he did the opposite by barelling straight into me in an attempt to yank my shotgun away, I would have fired and done the same.

The irresponsible thing would be to allow the man to roam and potentially meet someone unsuspecting and unarmed and risk innocent lives.

What you think is sensible or irresponsible is irrelevant. The killers had no authority to arrest Arbery. If they were illegally trying to detain him, which is what I understand they have claimed to have been doing, then he obviously had every right to use force to defend himself.

With that logic, nobody is allowed to tell a suspect to stop because they don't have the authority. Thugs and robbers are free to go on their merry way while you're busy dialing law enforcement.

If you watched the video closely, they didn't fire at him until he began to assault them. If someone I know is armed and pointing a gun at me and telling me to stop, the last thing I'd do is jump them.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Fiction goes in the other forum.

Ofcourse, it's much more comfortable to just scream "racism" than actually look at any updates on the investigation.

Link please.

[The Alma Mater]

What you think is sensible or irresponsible is irrelevant. The killers had no authority to arrest Arbery. If they were illegally trying to detain him, which is what I understand they have claimed to have been doing, then he obviously had every right to use force to defend himself.

With that logic, nobody is allowed to tell a suspect to stop because they don't have the authority. Thugs and robbers are free to go on their merry way while you're busy dialing law enforcement.

If you watched the video closely, they didn't fire at him until he began to assault them. If someone I know is armed and pointing a gun at me and telling me to stop, the last thing I'd do is jump them.

So if two random black men with weapons are shouting at you to stop and obey, you would without hesitation instead of trying to save your life ?

Also nice to see you skip over the request for sources.

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What you think is sensible or irresponsible is irrelevant. The killers had no authority to arrest Arbery. If they were illegally trying to detain him, which is what I understand they have claimed to have been doing, then he obviously had every right to use force to defend himself.

With that logic, nobody is allowed to tell a suspect to stop because they don't have the authority. Thugs and robbers are free to go on their merry way while you're busy dialing law enforcement.

If you watched the video closely, they didn't fire at him until he began to assault them. If someone I know is armed and pointing a gun at me and telling me to stop, the last thing I'd do is jump them.

Arbery attempted to retreat, he was cornered. Say what you want but don't pretend you know what you would do when pursued and trapped by armed men.

[Spirit of Hope]

The man that got shot was caught on CCTV stealing from several houses in the neighborhood for several nights. He was found 20 miles away from where he actually lived, so the whole "he was just going for a jog" that I keep hearing people say is total bull. The father and son tried to confront and apprehend him, the thief resisted and tried to grab their gun, they fired in self defense.

He was 2 miles from his home not 20.

The last reported theft was about two month previously, and was from a car not a house.

Plus the house he was seen entering was never burglarized. As the article says, the house was empty and under construction.

[Ifreann]

What you think is sensible or irresponsible is irrelevant. The killers had no authority to arrest Arbery. If they were illegally trying to detain him, which is what I understand they have claimed to have been doing, then he obviously had every right to use force to defend himself.

With that logic, nobody is allowed to tell a suspect to stop because they don't have the authority. Thugs and robbers are free to go on their merry way while you're busy dialing law enforcement.

Georgia has citizens arrest laws, but they do not apply in this situation. People in Georgia are generally free to go about their business unmolested and cannot be detained by any rando with a gun.

If you watched the video closely, they didn't fire at him until he began to assault them. If someone I know is armed and pointing a gun at me and telling me to stop, the last thing I'd do is jump them.

Why do you keep telling me what you would do? I don't care what you would do. You weren't involved.

[Vassenor]

With that logic, nobody is allowed to tell a suspect to stop because they don't have the authority. Thugs and robbers are free to go on their merry way while you're busy dialing law enforcement.

Georgia has citizens arrest laws, but they do not apply in this situation. People in Georgia are generally free to go about their business unmolested and cannot be detained by any rando with a gun.

If you watched the video closely, they didn't fire at him until he began to assault them. If someone I know is armed and pointing a gun at me and telling me to stop, the last thing I'd do is jump them.

Why do you keep telling me what you would do? I don't care what you would do. You weren't involved.

Because apparently trying to set themselves up as the man on the Clapham omnibus is the easiest way to discredit the victim acting in their own self defence.

[Arkhane]

Ofcourse, it's much more comfortable to just scream "racism" than actually look at any updates on the investigation.

I find your lack of sources predictable.

I watched the new footage on youtube but I didn't save it, I tried to look at the lengthy footage again, but the recent results with the first being the one covered by ABC, https://youtu.be/nMzcdGotbas
followed by this more recent update three minutes ago: https://youtu.be/NAVzFTnUmNo

It took me a while, but this compilation is the one I found, but it's not the one I actually watched since it didn't have any commentary or explanations: https://youtu.be/6Z99E6Vq6Hc

[Arkhane]

I find your lack of sources predictable.

Looks like another case of the "black man bad" narrative.

Assuming every black person that got shot is always because of their skin color or that they are always innocent isn't a good mindset either.

[Arkhane]

With that logic, nobody is allowed to tell a suspect to stop because they don't have the authority. Thugs and robbers are free to go on their merry way while you're busy dialing law enforcement.

If you watched the video closely, they didn't fire at him until he began to assault them. If someone I know is armed and pointing a gun at me and telling me to stop, the last thing I'd do is jump them.

So if two random black men with weapons are shouting at you to stop and obey, you would without hesitation instead of trying to save your life ?

Also nice to see you skip over the request for sources.

Obviously, if someone is armed and telling me to stop, self preservation usually wins, I have been mugged before in the past.

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Looks like another case of the "black man bad" narrative.

Assuming every black person that got shot is always because of their skin color or that they are always innocent isn't a good mindset either.

That's quite a strawman. No one said that.

[Ifreann]

I find your lack of sources predictable.

I watched the new footage on youtube but I didn't save it, I tried to look at the lengthy footage again, but the recent results with the first being the one covered by ABC, https://youtu.be/nMzcdGotbas
followed by this more recent update three minutes ago: https://youtu.be/NAVzFTnUmNo

It took me a while, but this compilation is the one I found, but it's not the one I actually watched since it didn't have any commentary or explanations: https://youtu.be/6Z99E6Vq6Hc

I think what people want is for you to evidence your specific claims about Arbery being 20 miles away from his home and being caught on CCTV stealing from several houses in that neighbourhood over several nights.

[The Alma Mater]

Looks like another case of the "black man bad" narrative.

Assuming every black person that got shot is always because of their skin color or that they are always innocent isn't a good mindset either.

True, but why then did you make all those false claims like 20 miles and burglaries in your post ?
The"he entered a house under construction" vid in your sources also is not new - police already commented on that days ago.

Nevertheless, thanks for the sources. I will now watch them all

[Spirit of Hope]

I find your lack of sources predictable.

I watched the new footage on youtube but I didn't save it, I tried to look at the lengthy footage again, but the recent results with the first being the one covered by ABC, https://youtu.be/nMzcdGotbas
followed by this more recent update three minutes ago: https://youtu.be/NAVzFTnUmNo

It took me a while, but this compilation is the one I found, but it's not the one I actually watched since it didn't have any commentary or explanations: https://youtu.be/6Z99E6Vq6Hc

I love how the news report you link to contradicts your initial statement, with it saying their were no reported robberies and Arbery wasn't breaking the law.

[Arkhane]

Assuming every black person that got shot is always because of their skin color or that they are always innocent isn't a good mindset either.

True, but why then did you make all those false claims like 20 miles and burglaries in your post ?
The first vid in your sources also is not new - police already commented on that days ago.

Nevertheless, thanks for the sources. I will now watch them all

I guess I misread the comments, it's filled with people defending the man that got shot and the ones who are claiming that he is guilty.

From what I gleaned and what I've seen and what I know of the people who shot him, this has been going on for quite some time before the confrontation.

[Ifreann]

So if two random black men with weapons are shouting at you to stop and obey, you would without hesitation instead of trying to save your life ?

Also nice to see you skip over the request for sources.

Obviously, if someone is armed and telling me to stop, self preservation usually wins, I have been mugged before in the past.

Again, what does it matter what you would have done? You weren't there.

[Arkhane]

I watched the new footage on youtube but I didn't save it, I tried to look at the lengthy footage again, but the recent results with the first being the one covered by ABC, https://youtu.be/nMzcdGotbas
followed by this more recent update three minutes ago: https://youtu.be/NAVzFTnUmNo

It took me a while, but this compilation is the one I found, but it's not the one I actually watched since it didn't have any commentary or explanations: https://youtu.be/6Z99E6Vq6Hc

I love how the news report you link to contradicts your initial statement, with it saying their were no reported robberies and Arbery wasn't breaking the law.

At the time, at least, but it would be a cold day in hell before they openly say that the new found footage is could prove that Ahmaud wasn't completely innocent. The MSM is like that.