Open Season: "Vigilantes" Shoot Black Jogger in Georgia

[Cannot think of a name]

Additional arrests possible.

When asked about additional arrests, Reynolds replied, "Don't know yet. We're going to go wherever the evidence takes us."

Cellphone video posted online earlier this week, which appeared to capture Arbery's Feb. 23 murder, sparked national outcry and calls for arrests.

"We're investigating everyone involved in the case, including the individual who shot the video," Reynolds said.

Side note, thanks to the lowered expectations, Trump managed to not step on his tongue so provides what for him is a decent response:

In a phone interview with Fox News on Friday President Trump was asked about that case which he called a "very sad thing."

"It's a very disturbing situation to me and I just, you know, my heart goes out to the parents and the family and the friends," Trump said.

"To anybody that watched it, certainly it was a disturbing or troubling video, no question about that," he said, adding: "It's a sad thing, very sad thing. Hate to see that."

[Kernen]

For sure, me neither. But I can see it being done when the case looks clear cut.

I think its bad practice, but cops are cops and look out for each other. Professional courtesy being what it is.

Professional criminality more like.
I get that they're comrades but if they want to be the good guys they need the moral conduct that comes with that.

Cops are the single greatest threat to the common man's personal freedom and a front line soldier in any conflict between the rulers and the ruled. They know it. Small wonder they're chummy. Maybe they'd be less so if the ruled started pulling together for their mutual best interests.

Moral conduct has fuckall to do with it.

[Albrenia]

The police need strict controls placed upon them to ensure this sort of 'professional courtesy' isn't a thing. Those with power should be held to a higher standard of conduct, not given special privileges.

I can't say I agree with the whole 'cops are just crooks' thing though, but I am certainly willing to admit my own experience with the long arm of the law is not very extensive so I may just be sheltered from that particular fact of life.

[Nazeroth]

The police need strict controls placed upon them to ensure this sort of 'professional courtesy' isn't a thing. Those with power should be held to a higher standard of conduct, not given special privileges.

I can't say I agree with the whole 'cops are just crooks' thing though, but I am certainly willing to admit my own experience with the long arm of the law is not very extensive so I may just be sheltered from that particular fact of life.

Australia dosnt have half the worrys america does

Cartel violence for one

[Albrenia]

The police need strict controls placed upon them to ensure this sort of 'professional courtesy' isn't a thing. Those with power should be held to a higher standard of conduct, not given special privileges.

I can't say I agree with the whole 'cops are just crooks' thing though, but I am certainly willing to admit my own experience with the long arm of the law is not very extensive so I may just be sheltered from that particular fact of life.

Australia dosnt have half the worrys america does

Cartel violence for one

Indeed. I'm pretty fucking lucky to live here to be honest.

The entire natural world here may actively be trying to kill me, but otherwise it's rather pleasant.

[Rojava Free State]

The police need strict controls placed upon them to ensure this sort of 'professional courtesy' isn't a thing. Those with power should be held to a higher standard of conduct, not given special privileges.

I can't say I agree with the whole 'cops are just crooks' thing though, but I am certainly willing to admit my own experience with the long arm of the law is not very extensive so I may just be sheltered from that particular fact of life.

Australia dosnt have half the worrys america does

Cartel violence for one

1970s Australia did.

[Rojava Free State]

Australia dosnt have half the worrys america does

Cartel violence for one

Indeed. I'm pretty fucking lucky to live here to be honest.

The entire natural world here may actively be trying to kill me, but otherwise it's rather pleasant.

At least you aren't in Florida. There, the natural world is trying to kill you and so are the people around you, who are probably on bath salts.

[Spirit of Hope]

While not all cops are crooks, the police chief for Brunswik was indicted for covering up misconduct by a narcotics unit, the state had previously revoked the department's accreditation, and the county manager said it had “a culture of cronyism.”

[Cisairse]

The police need strict controls placed upon them to ensure this sort of 'professional courtesy' isn't a thing. Those with power should be held to a higher standard of conduct, not given special privileges.

I can't say I agree with the whole 'cops are just crooks' thing though, but I am certainly willing to admit my own experience with the long arm of the law is not very extensive so I may just be sheltered from that particular fact of life.

this wasn't a (current) police officer

[Albrenia]

The police need strict controls placed upon them to ensure this sort of 'professional courtesy' isn't a thing. Those with power should be held to a higher standard of conduct, not given special privileges.

I can't say I agree with the whole 'cops are just crooks' thing though, but I am certainly willing to admit my own experience with the long arm of the law is not very extensive so I may just be sheltered from that particular fact of life.

this wasn't a (current) police officer

Aye, but he's arguably received benefits from being a police officer in the past. He should have been questioned and treated more seriously, not given the benefit of the doubt just because he used to be a cop, until the public had to get wind of the shooting for them to act.

[Kernen]

The police need strict controls placed upon them to ensure this sort of 'professional courtesy' isn't a thing. Those with power should be held to a higher standard of conduct, not given special privileges.

I can't say I agree with the whole 'cops are just crooks' thing though, but I am certainly willing to admit my own experience with the long arm of the law is not very extensive so I may just be sheltered from that particular fact of life.

Not all cops are crooks, but all cops are your enemy.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Additional arrests possible.

When asked about additional arrests, Reynolds replied, "Don't know yet. We're going to go wherever the evidence takes us."

Cellphone video posted online earlier this week, which appeared to capture Arbery's Feb. 23 murder, sparked national outcry and calls for arrests.

"We're investigating everyone involved in the case, including the individual who shot the video," Reynolds said.

Side note, thanks to the lowered expectations, Trump managed to not step on his tongue so provides what for him is a decent response:

In a phone interview with Fox News on Friday President Trump was asked about that case which he called a "very sad thing."

"It's a very disturbing situation to me and I just, you know, my heart goes out to the parents and the family and the friends," Trump said.

"To anybody that watched it, certainly it was a disturbing or troubling video, no question about that," he said, adding: "It's a sad thing, very sad thing. Hate to see that."

When I first heard the Trump quote I wasn't sure if he was saying his heart went out to the Arberry family or the McMichael family.

[Albrenia]

The police need strict controls placed upon them to ensure this sort of 'professional courtesy' isn't a thing. Those with power should be held to a higher standard of conduct, not given special privileges.

I can't say I agree with the whole 'cops are just crooks' thing though, but I am certainly willing to admit my own experience with the long arm of the law is not very extensive so I may just be sheltered from that particular fact of life.

Not all cops are crooks, but all cops are your enemy.

As I've said before, I haven't had enough experience with law enforcement to really comment, but the one experience I have had was quite positive. Someone was trying to burrow into my roof (weird story there) and they came along and talked him into going to the hospital with them.

It's entirely possible that there is a major difference in how Australian police and US police would approach a mentally ill person trying to burrow into a roof though.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

Furthermore, Arbery had been arrested before and had mental health records demonstrating an aggressive personality, as well as having a criminal record.

For example, he brought a gun to a school campus before.

"The punishment for having mental illness is death" - Israeli Defense Force, apparently.

What did you expect from the name?

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

The police need strict controls placed upon them to ensure this sort of 'professional courtesy' isn't a thing. Those with power should be held to a higher standard of conduct, not given special privileges.

I can't say I agree with the whole 'cops are just crooks' thing though, but I am certainly willing to admit my own experience with the long arm of the law is not very extensive so I may just be sheltered from that particular fact of life.

Not all cops are crooks, but all cops are your enemy.

Who do you think should stop murder, rape, child molestation etc.

[Philjia]

Racists cannot be allowed to own guns.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Racists cannot be allowed to own guns.

If I may, on what grounds?

Taking personal freedoms/rights away from people just because you don't like there ideology is a pretty dangerous precedent to be setting overall.

[Rojava Free State]

Racists cannot be allowed to own guns.

My mother isn't gonna give up her handgun willingly.

[Philjia]

Racists cannot be allowed to own guns.

If I may, on what grounds?

Taking personal freedoms/rights away from people just because you don't like there ideology is a pretty dangerous precedent to be setting overall.

If a person is likely to have heavily impaired judgement in regards to the lawful use of a deadly weapon, then they shouldn't be permitted to be armed with the deadly weapon. In this case, the perpetrators misidentified the victim as a suspect and then murdered him because he was black.

[Paddy O Fernature]

If a person is likely to have heavily impaired judgement in regards to the lawful use of a deadly weapon, then they shouldn't be permitted to be armed with the deadly weapon.

Define "heavily impaired judgement in regards to the lawful use of a deadly weapon" means to you, as generally speaking, people who already meet that very generic criteria (as laid out here) as proven via a court of law are already banned from legally owning weapons..Example convicted felons. If you mean more along the lines of "impaired" as in say, being drunk as another example, that's also already illegal to do as well.

In this case, the perpetrators misidentified the victim as a suspect and then murdered him because he was black.

Misidentified, maybe as to my current knowledge that's yet to be proven or disproved. However, you can't prove at all that race was the only driving issue here and had the guy been say white that this would have turned out differently when played out exactly the same way that it did.

[Kernen]

Not all cops are crooks, but all cops are your enemy.

Who do you think should stop murder, rape, child molestation etc.

Superman.

Imagine thinking criticism of the police is the same thing as calling for anarchy.

[Rojava Free State]

Not all cops are crooks, but all cops are your enemy.

Who do you think should stop murder, rape, child molestation etc.

Actual law enforcement and not a group of government sanctioned murderers, rapists and child molesters.

[Israeli Defense Force]

Also, none of this would have been known to the shooters, would it? So I don't see how it excuses chasing him down even if he was an arsehole with an anger problem.

That'd be some pretty impressive Sherlock Holmes shit for them to get all of that from him jogging by their house, dude.

What points do you think you're making by ignoring the fact it's been established he had a criminal history, brought weapons to school, and was charged with a felony for violence in obstructing a peace officer?

The point is he attacked them, and they were acting within the boundaries of the law in attempting a citizen's arrest. Neither of them had criminal histories.

When establishing the credibility and mentality of the parties involved, their histories are relevant whether you like them or not.

This always happens when a black man gets killed. Time to start digging up dirt on him going all the way back to when he was just 10 years old, cause we don't want people to feel sorry for him now do we?

Actually it happens to parties involved in such cases regardless of their race. If he has a violent history, and the story is in question, it is relevant to understanding what may have transpired.

And he was 19 when he brought the gun to school and violently obstructed a peace officer. Though given his decision-making capabilities, he probably was mentally about 10. Oh well!

[Kernen]

What points do you think you're making by ignoring the fact it's been established he had a criminal history, brought weapons to school, and was charged with a felony for violence in obstructing a peace officer?

I think its worth noting that had the jogger been the shooter, none of this would be admissible evidence, and folks would jump on any attempt to drag the vigilante's past through the mud.

The point is he attacked them, and they were acting within the boundaries of the law in attempting a citizen's arrest. Neither of them had criminal histories.

They had no grounds to effect a citizen's arrest in the first place.

[Inner Firatrundessia]

This is horrific and disgusting. These 'vigilantes' should be jailed