Open Season: "Vigilantes" Shoot Black Jogger in Georgia

[Gormwood]

Which is why the black on white murder rate there is so much higher, I assume.

Having seen the full video of the shooting,I can say you're a sensationalist and possible liar. He attacked them, and they were operating within the law.

Furthermore, Arbery had been arrested before and had mental health records demonstrating an aggressive personality, as well as having a criminal record.

For example, he brought a gun to a school campus before.

This always happens when a black man gets killed. Time to start digging up dirt on him going all the way back to when he was just 10 years old, cause we don't want people to feel sorry for him now do we?

Which rapper would you say looks like Arbery the most?

[Rojava Free State]

This always happens when a black man gets killed. Time to start digging up dirt on him going all the way back to when he was just 10 years old, cause we don't want people to feel sorry for him now do we?

Which rapper would you say looks like Arbery the most?

Choose any of them. After all, all black people look the same right?

[Zapato]

The one in the OP, where they open fire before you see any brawling.

Here's the video, no obvious editing no editorializing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIve50v ... 1588868652

The first shot occurs at 0:17 when they are already struggling. It doesn't appear that the guy in the bed has drawn his weapon so that may be the shotgun going off.

Interesting, the sound is clearly out of sync in the video. You can tell from the fact that the second gunshot, the first one visible on the video, makes no sound (around the 0:19 - 0:20 mark on the video.)

It doesn't match any of the other videos I've seen. Compare it to the video in the OP, where the gunshot matches the sound (see at 58 seconds in). The noise of the engine slowing and coming to a stop also matches what we see.

The sound quality is generally much better in the video in the OP as well. You hear the radio, and the shouting. In your video, the sound is muted and it's difficult to hear. I can't hear the radio or the engine sound at all.

If I had only seen your video I would be inclined to agree with your understanding of the situation. Having seen multiple sources playing videos similar to the one in the OP, and only your video diverting, I'm absolutely convinced that it's your video which is out of sync and shows an incorrect picture of what happened.

[Liriena]

Furthermore, Arbery had been arrested before and had mental health records demonstrating an aggressive personality, as well as having a criminal record.

For example, he brought a gun to a school campus before.

"The punishment for having mental illness is death" - Israeli Defense Force, apparently.

[Green October Z]

Update: The two guys that killed him were arrested last night by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation for the shooting. They are charged with murder and aggravated assault and are in jail now.

[The Emerald Legion]

Update: The two guys that killed him were arrested last night by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation for the shooting. They are charged with murder and aggravated assault and are in jail now.

That's not really an update. That was in the article in the OP.

[Fartsniffage]

Update: The two guys that killed him were arrested last night by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation for the shooting. They are charged with murder and aggravated assault and are in jail now.

That's not really an update. That was in the article in the OP.

You mean CNN has a time machine? Because the article in the op was written May 6th and they weren't arrested until May 7th....

[Gravlen]

That's not really an update. That was in the article in the OP.

You mean CNN has a time machine? Because the article in the op was written May 6th and they weren't arrested until May 7th....

Also, the article mentions "arrest" three times, every time in reference to citizen's arrest.

[Thermodolia]

That's not really an update. That was in the article in the OP.

You mean CNN has a time machine? Because the article in the op was written May 6th and they weren't arrested until May 7th....

It was pretty much common knowledge that they would be arrested the DA said they where pressing charges and presented the evidence before a grand jury in order to obtain arrest warrants for the individuals in question on the 6th

[The Emerald Legion]

You mean CNN has a time machine? Because the article in the op was written May 6th and they weren't arrested until May 7th....

Also, the article mentions "arrest" three times, every time in reference to citizen's arrest.

"They must be taken into custody pending indictment."

The fact that they would be arrested was not in question. What's in question is would they win the resulting trial.

[Fartsniffage]

Also, the article mentions "arrest" three times, every time in reference to citizen's arrest.

"They must be taken into custody pending indictment."

The fact that they would be arrested was not in question. What's in question is would they win the resulting trial.

Said the families lawyer. Does he get to decide that?

[The Emerald Legion]

"They must be taken into custody pending indictment."

The fact that they would be arrested was not in question. What's in question is would they win the resulting trial.

Said the families lawyer. Does he get to decide that?

Are you honestly saying that you didn't expect them to go to trial at all? They killed someone.

[Gravlen]

Also, the article mentions "arrest" three times, every time in reference to citizen's arrest.

"They must be taken into custody pending indictment."

The fact that they would be arrested was not in question. What's in question is would they win the resulting trial.

That quotation comes from S. Lee Merritt, an attorney for the Arbery family. He does not have the authority to decide that.

The arrest was very much in question, and part of why people are outraged. In fact, even after the case was sent to the grand jury the police decided it was not the time to arrest them.

Only when the GBI took over the case were they arrested. That happened only yesterday.

On May 7th, 2020, the GBI arrested Gregory McMichael, age 64, and Travis McMichael, age 34, for the death of Ahmaud Arbery. They were both charged with murder and aggravated assault. The McMichaels were taken into custody and will be booked into the Glynn County Jail.

[Spirit of Hope]

Said the families lawyer. Does he get to decide that?

Are you honestly saying that you didn't expect them to go to trial at all? They killed someone.

The original prosecutor wasn't planning to press charges, and argued charges shouldn't be pressed in his recusal letter.

[The Emerald Legion]

Are you honestly saying that you didn't expect them to go to trial at all? They killed someone.

The original prosecutor wasn't planning to press charges, and argued charges shouldn't be pressed in his recusal letter.

And he was recused. Which means his opinion matters as much as a rocks.

[Gravlen]

Said the families lawyer. Does he get to decide that?

Are you honestly saying that you didn't expect them to go to trial at all? They killed someone.

...yes. Have you not been paying attention? District Attorney George E. Barnhill earlier stated that he found insufficient probable cause to arrest the men, and when he recused himself (in the weirdest possible way) he also declared that the men had acted lawfully.

Only after the video leaked to the press and the protests had begun did the new DA Tom Durden send the case to the grand jury, while at the same time, finding no reason to arrest the men. If the video hadn't leaked it's unlikely this would have gone to the grand jury, let alone to trial.

[Ifreann]

Said the families lawyer. Does he get to decide that?

Are you honestly saying that you didn't expect them to go to trial at all? They killed someone.

And were allowed to go free.

[Gravlen]

Are you honestly saying that you didn't expect them to go to trial at all? They killed someone.

And were allowed to go free.

I mean, if you gun someone down in the streets, shouldn't you at least expect to be taken into custody and brought in for questioning?

[Ifreann]

And were allowed to go free.

I mean, if you gun someone down in the streets, shouldn't you at least expect to be taken into custody and brought in for questioning?

I guess when you're a retired cop and you've killed a "suspected burglar" in "self defence" you get a whole hell of a lot of leeway.

[Kernen]

And were allowed to go free.

I mean, if you gun someone down in the streets, shouldn't you at least expect to be taken into custody and brought in for questioning?

I can see coming to question the shooter at a later time if you wanted to extend some professional courtesy. You know, like, after they have a chance to shower while in the comfort of their own home. This is just blatant abuse of a law that could do some good were it not for racist cops and wannabe cops.

[Kernen]

Said the families lawyer. Does he get to decide that?

Are you honestly saying that you didn't expect them to go to trial at all? They killed someone.

There's no need for a trial where no law was broken and where you don't expect a conviction.

Of course, that sure ain't this case.

[Fartsniffage]

I mean, if you gun someone down in the streets, shouldn't you at least expect to be taken into custody and brought in for questioning?

I can see coming to question the shooter at a later time if you wanted to extend some professional courtesy. You know, like, after they have a chance to shower while in the comfort of their own home. This is just blatant abuse of a law that could do some good were it not for racist cops and wannabe cops.

I wouldn't want a person suspected of a crime to have a chance to shower and get in clean clothes. Forensic evidence and all that.

[Kernen]

I can see coming to question the shooter at a later time if you wanted to extend some professional courtesy. You know, like, after they have a chance to shower while in the comfort of their own home. This is just blatant abuse of a law that could do some good were it not for racist cops and wannabe cops.

I wouldn't want a person suspected of a crime to have a chance to shower and get in clean clothes. Forensic evidence and all that.

For sure, me neither. But I can see it being done when the case looks clear cut.

I think its bad practice, but cops are cops and look out for each other. Professional courtesy being what it is.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

What did Arberry supposedly do in the first place?

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

I wouldn't want a person suspected of a crime to have a chance to shower and get in clean clothes. Forensic evidence and all that.

For sure, me neither. But I can see it being done when the case looks clear cut.

I think its bad practice, but cops are cops and look out for each other. Professional courtesy being what it is.

Professional criminality more like.
I get that they're comrades but if they want to be the good guys they need the moral conduct that comes with that.