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What is your race?

White
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73%
Mestizo/Mulatto
5
4%
Black
6
5%
Native American/Amerindian
1
1%
North African/West Asian
0
No votes
Central Asian
0
No votes
South Asian
3
2%
East/Southeast Asian
8
6%
Multiracial
9
7%
Other
4
3%
 
Total votes : 133

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 05, 2020 9:58 am

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So many Europeans are of indigenous stock but inherit their language and some genes from ancient invaders?



Well the mummies found in the Tarim Basin were very tall nordic types so Europids have been all over central asia and those mummies were nordic-type not the brown eyed dark haired but moderately light skinned Yamnaya. I bet the descendants of these people were what came to be known as the "black Germans" because in contrast.. to blonde-blue/green eyed kinds they were "black".


They must have been almost direct descendants of the Yamnya.
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Postby Grimmsland » Tue May 05, 2020 10:00 am

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NASCAR Nationalists! I know some of these kind.

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Postby Grimmsland » Tue May 05, 2020 10:01 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Grimmsland wrote:

Well the mummies found in the Tarim Basin were very tall nordic types so Europids have been all over central asia and those mummies were nordic-type not the brown eyed dark haired but moderately light skinned Yamnaya. I bet the descendants of these people were what came to be known as the "black Germans" because in contrast.. to blonde-blue/green eyed kinds they were "black".


They must have been almost direct descendants of the Yamnya.


I'd think so. They were mostly male.. like the Yamnaya who took others women who remained more fair.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 05, 2020 10:10 am

Grimmsland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
They must have been almost direct descendants of the Yamnya.


I'd think so. They were mostly male.. like the Yamnaya who took others women who remained more fair.


So we could infer that light skin populations in Europe might be the closest in heritage to the original Yamnaya, and that darker skin, darker haired Europeans have more admixture from other groups besides the Yamnaya.
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Postby Grimmsland » Tue May 05, 2020 10:22 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
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I'd think so. They were mostly male.. like the Yamnaya who took others women who remained more fair.


So we could infer that light skin populations in Europe might be the closest in heritage to the original Yamnaya, and that darker skin, darker haired Europeans have more admixture from other groups besides the Yamnaya.


The Yamnaya were slightly more swarthy but still "moderately light" .. the women remaining fair would be because the Yamnaya killed the men and took the Neolithic women and women tend to inherit more from their phenotype from mothers line. Right? There were more swarthy kinds in the west too on the British Isles. A tribe called the Silures gave the Romans hell. Tacitus described them as haveing been swarthy with curly dark hair. The Yamnaya hair was straight/wavy (soft) not curly - but dark.

IMO the "nordic" blonde blue originally came out of N/E Asia .. Russia/Siberia and went west into Scandinavia. I've read that during the Ice-Age there remained an isolated portion of Europeans secluded up in Scandinavia too.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 05, 2020 10:23 am

I'm so pasty and white that I've been mistaken for Casper the Ghost.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 05, 2020 10:25 am

Grimmsland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
So we could infer that light skin populations in Europe might be the closest in heritage to the original Yamnaya, and that darker skin, darker haired Europeans have more admixture from other groups besides the Yamnaya.


The Yamnaya were slightly more swarthy but still "moderately light" .. the women remaining fair would be because the Yamnaya killed the men and took the Neolithic women and women tend to inherit more from their phenotype from mothers line. Right? There were more swarthy kinds in the west too on the British Isles. A tribe called the Silures gave the Romans hell. Tacitus described them as haveing been swarthy with curly dark hair. The Yamnaya hair was straight/wavy (soft) not curly - but dark.

IMO the "nordic" blonde blue originally came out of N/E Asia .. Russia/Siberia and went west into Scandinavia. I've read that during the Ice-Age there remained an isolated portion of Europeans secluded up in Scandinavia too.


A dark skinned tribe in the British isles? Were they celts?
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Postby Grimmsland » Tue May 05, 2020 10:31 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Grimmsland wrote:
The Yamnaya were slightly more swarthy but still "moderately light" .. the women remaining fair would be because the Yamnaya killed the men and took the Neolithic women and women tend to inherit more from their phenotype from mothers line. Right? There were more swarthy kinds in the west too on the British Isles. A tribe called the Silures gave the Romans hell. Tacitus described them as haveing been swarthy with curly dark hair. The Yamnaya hair was straight/wavy (soft) not curly - but dark.

IMO the "nordic" blonde blue originally came out of N/E Asia .. Russia/Siberia and went west into Scandinavia. I've read that during the Ice-Age there remained an isolated portion of Europeans secluded up in Scandinavia too.


A dark skinned tribe in the British isles? Were they celts?




I don't know. Tacitus thought they might have came from Spain originally.

"... the swarthy faces of the Silures, the curly quality, in general, of their hair, and the position of Spain opposite their shores, attest to the passage of Iberians in old days and the occupation by them of these districts; ..." (Tacitus Annales Xi.ii, translated by M. Hutton)

Jordanes, in his Origins and Deeds of the Goths, describes the Silures.

"The Silures have swarthy features and are usually born with curly black hair, but the inhabitants of Caledonia have reddish hair and large loose-jointed bodies. They are like the Gauls or the Spaniards."


When I first learned of their non-relenting toward Romans and their physical description it crossed my mind if they were perhaps descended from Jews who fled up into the island at some point. :lol:

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Postby Grimmsland » Tue May 05, 2020 10:33 am

Wait.. Spain would count as Celts.. so even if they did they would be Celts just more swarthy?

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 05, 2020 10:39 am

Grimmsland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
A dark skinned tribe in the British isles? Were they celts?




I don't know. Tacitus thought they might have came from Spain originally.

"... the swarthy faces of the Silures, the curly quality, in general, of their hair, and the position of Spain opposite their shores, attest to the passage of Iberians in old days and the occupation by them of these districts; ..." (Tacitus Annales Xi.ii, translated by M. Hutton)

Jordanes, in his Origins and Deeds of the Goths, describes the Silures.

"The Silures have swarthy features and are usually born with curly black hair, but the inhabitants of Caledonia have reddish hair and large loose-jointed bodies. They are like the Gauls or the Spaniards."


When I first learned of their non-relenting toward Romans and their physical description it crossed my mind if they were perhaps descended from Jews who fled up into the island at some point. :lol:


Their physical appearance doesn't sound like that of the Celts, so they may have crossed over from Spain.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 05, 2020 10:39 am

Grimmsland wrote:Wait.. Spain would count as Celts.. so even if they did they would be Celts just more swarthy?


I wonder whether the ancient celts were light skinned or dark, and if they were dark colored then what exactly caused such a radical change in their appearance between then and now?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Grimmsland » Tue May 05, 2020 10:49 am

Don't know but I'm interested in what "loose-jointed bodies" means from the description of the red-haired Caledonians. Does that mean long arms and legs? Loose jointed.. they were double-jointed? When they stood their(!) legs popped back?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 05, 2020 10:52 am

Grimmsland wrote:Don't know but I'm interested in what "loose-jointed bodies" means from the description of the red-haired Caledonians. Does that mean long arms and legs? Loose jointed.. they were double-jointed? When they stood their(!) legs popped back?


They looked like Slenderman.
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I'm of predominantly West African descent: 52.9% Ibo (South Eastern Nigerian) but also part: Akan (Southern Ghanaian), Temne (Northern Sierra Leone), Mende (Southern Sierra Leone), Fula, Zialo (Guinean). With the rest of my ancestry consisting of a mix of Central and Southern African: Luba (South Central-Congolese), Bantu (South East African), San (Southern African Bushman), Pygmy. Scottish, Irish, Scandinavian, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Indian, Han Chinese, Arawak (Native American), Jewish, Copt and Berber (North African)
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Postby Cetacea » Tue May 05, 2020 12:49 pm

Ive never been much of a sprinter but I am okay at middle distances
these days a more of a walker though

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Postby Green October Z » Tue May 05, 2020 1:19 pm

It's frustrating being me sometimes. I was born here in the USA and the only language I am fluent in is English. But, racially I am Southeast Asian as my parents are both Vietnamese. Whites, blacks, and hispanics often think I am Chinese. Meanwhile Chinese people often speak Chinese to me thinking I am one of them and often react negatively when I tell them that I am of Vietnamese decent. There is no winning for me.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 05, 2020 1:22 pm

Cetacea wrote:Ive never been much of a sprinter but I am okay at middle distances
these days a more of a walker though

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Postby Grimmsland » Tue May 05, 2020 1:26 pm

Green October Z wrote:It's frustrating being me sometimes. I was born here in the USA and the only language I am fluent in is English. But, racially I am Southeast Asian as my parents are both Vietnamese. Whites, blacks, and hispanics often think I am Chinese. Meanwhile Chinese people often speak Chinese to me thinking I am one of them and often react negatively when I tell them that I am of Vietnamese decent. There is no winning for me.


You should become a chef and have your own personal restaurant. You will have eventually lots of good friends and meet someone special. People love a good chef/restaurant and it is a social environment.

Really though, I feel for you. No idea what I would do in your situation. :hug:

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Postby Green October Z » Tue May 05, 2020 1:29 pm

Grimmsland wrote:
Green October Z wrote:It's frustrating being me sometimes. I was born here in the USA and the only language I am fluent in is English. But, racially I am Southeast Asian as my parents are both Vietnamese. Whites, blacks, and hispanics often think I am Chinese. Meanwhile Chinese people often speak Chinese to me thinking I am one of them and often react negatively when I tell them that I am of Vietnamese decent. There is no winning for me.


You should become a chef and have your own personal restaurant. You will have eventually lots of good friends and meet someone special. People love a good chef/restaurant and it is a social environment.

Really though, I feel for you. No idea what I would do in your situation. :hug:


Thank you :hug:
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Postby Ankenland » Tue May 05, 2020 2:22 pm

Needs Jewish option.

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Ankenland wrote:Needs Jewish option.


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Postby Ndaku » Tue May 05, 2020 2:26 pm

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So how about the Indy 500?
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Postby Green October Z » Tue May 05, 2020 2:27 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:So how about the Indy 500?


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