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Postby United Dependencies » Tue May 05, 2020 11:42 am

Apparently the weapons brought along included an airsoft rifle?
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Edit: This is all very wacky and obviously very poorly done.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 05, 2020 11:44 am

Dukin Donuts wrote:So what?

Is Venezuela going to declare war on the Colombia? The US?

One can only hope.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue May 05, 2020 11:46 am

Dukin Donuts wrote:So what?

Is Venezuela going to declare war on the Colombia? The US?

That would be great, because the US military can proceed to depose the socialists and set up a democratic government

Only difference between this and Vietnam and Iraq is the natives actually would want that
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 05, 2020 11:58 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Dukin Donuts wrote:So what?

Is Venezuela going to declare war on the Colombia? The US?

That would be great, because the US military can proceed to depose the socialists and set up a democratic government

Only difference between this and Vietnam and Iraq is the natives actually would want that

People down there have nothing but fond memories of U.S. staged coups apparently.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 05, 2020 12:37 pm

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The Hindustani State wrote:Venezuela already has a terrorist invasion, he even succeeded, his name is Nicolas Maduro

Actually it was Hugo Chavez who started the mess, and instead of picking a competent successor he picked a bus driver


Chavez made a wide mess of mistakes, but dear lord he could've vetted a semi-competent successor, especially if he knew he was getting sicker and sicker. I differ from a lot of classic SocDems in the fact that I genuinely dislike Chavez's legacy, but he looks like a fucking hero compared to Maduro.

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Postby Atheris » Tue May 05, 2020 12:39 pm

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Aureumterra wrote:Actually it was Hugo Chavez who started the mess, and instead of picking a competent successor he picked a bus driver


Chavez made a wide mess of mistakes, but dear lord he could've vetted a semi-competent successor, especially if he knew he was getting sicker and sicker. I differ from a lot of classic SocDems in the fact that I genuinely dislike Chavez's legacy, but he looks like a fucking hero compared to Maduro.

I'm a socdem and Chavez was literally the worst thing in the last 100 years to happen to Venezuela.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 05, 2020 12:45 pm

Atheris wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Chavez made a wide mess of mistakes, but dear lord he could've vetted a semi-competent successor, especially if he knew he was getting sicker and sicker. I differ from a lot of classic SocDems in the fact that I genuinely dislike Chavez's legacy, but he looks like a fucking hero compared to Maduro.

I'm a socdem and Chavez was literally the worst thing in the last 100 years to happen to Venezuela.


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Postby Greed and Death » Tue May 05, 2020 12:54 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Actually it was Hugo Chavez who started the mess, and instead of picking a competent successor he picked a bus driver


Chavez made a wide mess of mistakes, but dear lord he could've vetted a semi-competent successor, especially if he knew he was getting sicker and sicker. I differ from a lot of classic SocDems in the fact that I genuinely dislike Chavez's legacy, but he looks like a fucking hero compared to Maduro.


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Postby Andsed » Tue May 05, 2020 12:55 pm

Ah, more conflict in an area that is already unstable. That is exactly what we need right now...
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Postby Mzeusia » Tue May 05, 2020 12:59 pm

Gran Columbia anyone?
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue May 05, 2020 1:01 pm

United Dependencies wrote:Apparently the weapons brought along included an airsoft rifle?
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05 ... rcorp-usa/


Edit: This is all very wacky and obviously very poorly done.



So air soft guns. Also it seems weird the mercenary company would proclaim this was going on once their operatives were caught.

Most of the time it is a we will deny you are agents.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 05, 2020 1:23 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:Apparently the weapons brought along included an airsoft rifle?
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05 ... rcorp-usa/


Edit: This is all very wacky and obviously very poorly done.



So air soft guns. Also it seems weird the mercenary company would proclaim this was going on once their operatives were caught.

Most of the time it is a we will deny you are agents.


It's not like they are going to get any more business out of it.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 05, 2020 1:26 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Dukin Donuts wrote:So what?

Is Venezuela going to declare war on the Colombia? The US?

That would be great, because the US military can proceed to depose the socialists and set up a democratic government

Only difference between this and Vietnam and Iraq is the natives actually would want that

So it would be enormously costly in terms of both money and lives and not actually achieve its stated goals?
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue May 05, 2020 1:38 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:

So air soft guns. Also it seems weird the mercenary company would proclaim this was going on once their operatives were caught.

Most of the time it is a we will deny you are agents.


It's not like they are going to get any more business out of it.


what are the odds Maduro hired them to fake a failed coup attempt with airsoft guns ?
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Postby Novus America » Tue May 05, 2020 1:40 pm

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That news report is grossly hyperbolic. The SA-24 is not by any standards a long range missile, having a maximum range of 5.2 km and a flight ceiling of merely 3.4 km.

It is not particularly scary, and is a small, cheap short range missile easily bought in bulk comparable to the stinger. It is most used against helicopters and low slow ground attack aircraft as it cannot hit anything flying fast or even at medium low altitude.

It obviously does not and cannot carry a nuclear warhead.

They main concern is a terrorist could acquire one and try to fire it at an airliner taking off or landing (it cannot hit one in normal flight, as they fly far above its maximum altitude).
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue May 05, 2020 2:44 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:what the actual fuck is a terrorist invasion?


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Postby Green October Z » Tue May 05, 2020 3:34 pm

Probably just Maduro making stuff up to distract his people from just how evil he is. Nothing to see here, folks.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue May 05, 2020 3:47 pm

Novus America wrote:


That news report is grossly hyperbolic. The SA-24 is not by any standards a long range missile, having a maximum range of 5.2 km and a flight ceiling of merely 3.4 km.

It is not particularly scary, and is a small, cheap short range missile easily bought in bulk comparable to the stinger. It is most used against helicopters and low slow ground attack aircraft as it cannot hit anything flying fast or even at medium low altitude.

It obviously does not and cannot carry a nuclear warhead.

They main concern is a terrorist could acquire one and try to fire it at an airliner taking off or landing (it cannot hit one in normal flight, as they fly far above its maximum altitude).


A long range SAM is not normally what people think of when long range missile. title was definitely intentionally vague to be click bait/ yellow journalism.

I of course would never do such a thing.
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Postby Novus America » Tue May 05, 2020 3:54 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Novus America wrote:
That news report is grossly hyperbolic. The SA-24 is not by any standards a long range missile, having a maximum range of 5.2 km and a flight ceiling of merely 3.4 km.

It is not particularly scary, and is a small, cheap short range missile easily bought in bulk comparable to the stinger. It is most used against helicopters and low slow ground attack aircraft as it cannot hit anything flying fast or even at medium low altitude.

It obviously does not and cannot carry a nuclear warhead.

They main concern is a terrorist could acquire one and try to fire it at an airliner taking off or landing (it cannot hit one in normal flight, as they fly far above its maximum altitude).


A long range SAM is not normally what people think of when long range missile. title was definitely intentionally vague to be click bait/ yellow journalism.

I of course would never do such a thing.


True, and the SA-24 is not a long range (it is a very short range one) SAM anyways. So double fail.
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Postby Green October Z » Tue May 05, 2020 3:55 pm

Novus America wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:
A long range SAM is not normally what people think of when long range missile. title was definitely intentionally vague to be click bait/ yellow journalism.

I of course would never do such a thing.


True, and the SA-24 is not a long range (it is a very short ranges one) SAM anyways. So double fail.


A long-range MANPAD. That'll be the day.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue May 05, 2020 4:07 pm

Green October Z wrote:Probably just Maduro making stuff up to distract his people from just how evil he is. Nothing to see here, folks.

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Postby Novus America » Tue May 05, 2020 4:07 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Novus America wrote:
True, and the SA-24 is not a long range (it is a very short ranges one) SAM anyways. So double fail.


A long-range MANPAD. That'll be the day.


Just sling a SM-6 over your shoulder. Just get REALLY rippped first :lol:
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 05, 2020 4:11 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Green October Z wrote:Probably just Maduro making stuff up to distract his people from just how evil he is. Nothing to see here, folks.

This ^^

So he didn't arrest any Americans? I guess you have no cause to invade, then.
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Postby Green October Z » Tue May 05, 2020 4:19 pm

Novus America wrote:
Green October Z wrote:
A long-range MANPAD. That'll be the day.


Just sling a SM-6 over your shoulder. Just get REALLY rippped first :lol:


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