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Postby Sadakoyama » Tue May 12, 2020 9:31 pm

Jedi Council wrote:If I had the opportunity to speak to fictional Characters there would be a host I would choose before the Devil.

Most other fictitious villains are better written and far more interesting


I learned a lot about life from Captain Nemo. Enough to know he wasn't the "bad guy".
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Postby Antityranicals » Tue May 12, 2020 9:37 pm

Galloism wrote:
Antityranicals wrote:Unless, of course, Satan absorbs back some of the heat from the flame. Fire is, after all, exothermic, so it produces more heat than it absorbs.

The answer then obviously being to choose cross materials that require more heat to reach their auto ignition temperature than will be produced by said combustion.

But would Satan even bother with those?
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Postby Galloism » Tue May 12, 2020 9:42 pm

Antityranicals wrote:
Galloism wrote:The answer then obviously being to choose cross materials that require more heat to reach their auto ignition temperature than will be produced by said combustion.

But would Satan even bother with those?

Well, that begs the question - is he destroying crosses per se or is it a physics reaction? We can’t necessarily assume they all burn because he wants them to.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue May 12, 2020 9:59 pm

Galloism wrote:
Antityranicals wrote:Unless, of course, Satan absorbs back some of the heat from the flame. Fire is, after all, exothermic, so it produces more heat than it absorbs.

The answer then obviously being to choose cross materials that require more heat to reach their auto ignition temperature than will be produced by said combustion.

Make crosses out of aerogel, that stuff is ridiculously heat-resistant.
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Postby Albrenia » Tue May 12, 2020 10:25 pm

Nakena wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Also, not enough people talk about the fact that Eve is a trans woman.


We haven't even gotten started on Pokemon.

Yes Pokemon.


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Postby Dreisburg » Thu May 14, 2020 1:22 am

No. When talking to the devil, it might essentially be a trap. The devil can coat ugly things with white, even if it may do something useful to you (bring revenge on someone, or the achievement of materialistic objects, desires) the price of it is often hefty.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 14, 2020 5:22 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Nakena wrote:
It's propaganda, blatantly false, nonsense and has been several times retconned too. Like Adams first wife has been omitted from the story.

Also, not enough people talk about the fact that Eve is a trans woman.


Is she? I mean she was made from a man.
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Postby Dylar » Thu May 14, 2020 5:27 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Also, not enough people talk about the fact that Eve is a trans woman.


Is she? I mean she was made from a man.

Something about being made from a male's rib also makes her male until God decided to change her genitalia. I think.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 14, 2020 5:29 am

Dylar wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Is she? I mean she was made from a man.

Something about being made from a male's rib also makes her male until God decided to change her genitalia. I think.


"I got rid of the penis, right?"

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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Albrenia » Thu May 14, 2020 5:30 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Dylar wrote:Something about being made from a male's rib also makes her male until God decided to change her genitalia. I think.


"I got rid of the pens, right?"

-Yaweh


God damnit you made me laugh at blasphemy again.

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Postby Nakena » Thu May 14, 2020 5:32 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Also, not enough people talk about the fact that Eve is a trans woman.


Is she? I mean she was made from a man.


Genetic material obviously.

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Postby Albrenia » Thu May 14, 2020 5:33 am

Nakena wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Is she? I mean she was made from a man.


Genetic material obviously.


Does that make them related? Or a clone?

Also, I'd be slightly miffed at God if he pulled one of my ribs out.

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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 14, 2020 6:08 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Also, not enough people talk about the fact that Eve is a trans woman.


Is she? I mean she was made from a man.

According to nonsense advocates, yes! As they say, your gender is determined by your sex chromosomes, and Eve is a genetic clone of Adam, so logically, she must be biologically male™®.
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Postby Mirjt » Thu May 14, 2020 6:43 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Is she? I mean she was made from a man.

According to nonsense advocates, yes! As they say, your gender is determined by your sex chromosomes, and Eve is a genetic clone of Adam, so logically, she must be biologically male™®.


If the story of Adam and Eve were taken literally, Adam's rib was just the raw material that God sculpted into the human Eve, but she had completely different genetic material than Adam. P.S. I am a Christian, but I don't take the story of Adam and Eve literally.

Though, I do like the idea that some people put out there that Jesus may have been female, because Jesus was born of a virgin birth and therefore only had genetic information from Mary. Regardless I think God is beyond our human ideas of gender or biological sex, I think God is referred to as a male in the Bible because of the patriarchal culture of those that worshiped the Abrahamic God. I think Jesus took the role of a man either randomly or because it was neccessary for credibility in the culture Jesus was born in.


Actually biological sex can be male, female, or intersex (which is the spectrum of sexual characteristics in between male and female or the combination of male and female traits). There are four aspects to biological sex.

(1) Sex chromosomes (XX for female, XY for male, and any other combination is intersex)
(2) The ratio of sex hormones (more estrogen leans towards female sex characteristics, more testosterone leans towards male sex characteristics, everyone has a mix of the two along with several other related hormones, and there are other genetic, epigenetic, and environmental factors that can affect the ratio over time than just the sex chromosomes)
(3) Primary sex characteristics and reproductive anatomy (the intersex can have the appearance of certain primary sex characteristics on the outside and have a different set on the inside, once again due to genetic or hormonal reasons)
(4) Secondary sex characteristics and physical trends

Gender, while often tied to sex, is not the same as biological sex. Gender is a social construct that assigns roles and behaviors to people in a specific culture. For example, the clothes you wear, the hobbies you are expected to enjoy or have, the jobs or work you are expected to do, the mannerisms which you use, etc... are aspects of gender and have no basis in biological reality. In many cultures there are more than two genders, and they may have one or more "third genders" (third being used in the same way as in third parties). Cisgender people are those whom view themselves and conform to the gender expected of them. Transgender people are those whom view themselves as the opposite gender to that expected of them and do not conform to the gender expected of them. Agender people are those without a sense of gender. Bigender people are people who view themselves and conform to both masculine and feminine gender roles, but not in between. Androgynous people are people who view themselves as in between the masculine and feminine gender roles and have a mix of masculine and feminine characteristics. Gender Fluid are those whom sense of gender changes over time whether frequently, infrequently, gradually, or rapidly. Gender non-comforming can either refer to everything that is not cis-gener or simply refer to people who don't place much value on gender/gender-roles or have a weak sense of gender and therefore may not completely conform to their expected gender. Non-binary refers to all the gender options that are not simply masculine and feminine, including having both as bigender or androgynous, none as agender, something else as a third gender, fluid gender, all manner of non-comforming, and genders that are completely outside the traditional masculine-feminine-(third) spectrum. Queer (when used to address gender, and not sexuality or romantic orientation) refers to the breaking, bending, and remaking of gender and gender roles. Post-gender refers to a hypothetical society where the social construct of gender does not exist, and is sometimes associated with transphobia or trans-exlusionary radical feminism, and other times can be associated with intersectional, inclusive, radical feminism (though intersectional, inclusive, radical feminism usually prefers the slow and gradual breaking down of gender than outright elimination).
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 14, 2020 6:56 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Is she? I mean she was made from a man.

According to nonsense advocates, yes! As they say, your gender is determined by your sex chromosomes, and Eve is a genetic clone of Adam, so logically, she must be biologically male™®.


Science isn't nonsense.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 14, 2020 6:59 am

Mirjt wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:According to nonsense advocates, yes! As they say, your gender is determined by your sex chromosomes, and Eve is a genetic clone of Adam, so logically, she must be biologically male™®.


If the story of Adam and Eve were taken literally, Adam's rib was just the raw material that God sculpted into the human Eve, but she had completely different genetic material than Adam. P.S. I am a Christian, but I don't take the story of Adam and Eve literally.

Though, I do like the idea that some people put out there that Jesus may have been female, because Jesus was born of a virgin birth and therefore only had genetic information from Mary. Regardless I think God is beyond our human ideas of gender or biological sex, I think God is referred to as a male in the Bible because of the patriarchal culture of those that worshiped the Abrahamic God. I think Jesus took the role of a man either randomly or because it was neccessary for credibility in the culture Jesus was born in.

Thm: Mary was a parthenogenetic stick insect, hence how she was able to reproduce sans coitus.
Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:According to nonsense advocates, yes! As they say, your gender is determined by your sex chromosomes, and Eve is a genetic clone of Adam, so logically, she must be biologically male™®.


Science isn't nonsense.

Yes, and?
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Postby Nakena » Thu May 14, 2020 5:15 pm

Albrenia wrote:I prefer the song.


This one? Prepare for trouble, make it double?

To protect the world from devastation
To unite all people's within our nation
To denounce the evils of truth and love
To extend our reach to the stars above!
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Postby Albrenia » Thu May 14, 2020 5:17 pm

Nakena wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I prefer the song.


This one? Prepare for trouble, make it double?

To protect the world from devastation
To unite all people's within our nation
To denounce the evils of truth and love
To extend our reach to the stars above!


This one

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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Thu May 14, 2020 6:43 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Is she? I mean she was made from a man.

According to nonsense advocates, yes! As they say, your gender is determined by your sex chromosomes, and Eve is a genetic clone of Adam, so logically, she must be biologically male™®.


No.Males have two X and Y chromosomes, and females have two X chromosomes.Technically, Adam's X chromosome doubling can be cloned.Only now humans do not have this technology
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 14, 2020 6:48 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:According to nonsense advocates, yes! As they say, your gender is determined by your sex chromosomes, and Eve is a genetic clone of Adam, so logically, she must be biologically male™®.


No.Males have two X and Y chromosomes, and females have two X chromosomes.Technically, Adam's X chromosome doubling can be cloned.Only now humans do not have this technology

If he reproduced by a typical mitotic pathway (which seems likely given the story), that's impossible.
Of course, this is all a moot point because Adam and Eve weren't actual individual people.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu May 14, 2020 6:59 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:According to nonsense advocates, yes! As they say, your gender is determined by your sex chromosomes, and Eve is a genetic clone of Adam, so logically, she must be biologically male™®.


No.Males have two X and Y chromosomes, and females have two X chromosomes.Technically, Adam's X chromosome doubling can be cloned.Only now humans do not have this technology

Pretty sure this is just a typo, but to be clear:
Males have ONE X and Y chromosome.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 14, 2020 7:21 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
No.Males have two X and Y chromosomes, and females have two X chromosomes.Technically, Adam's X chromosome doubling can be cloned.Only now humans do not have this technology

Pretty sure this is just a typo, but to be clear:
Males have ONE X and Y chromosome.

Yeah, I just glossed past that because English isn't his native language. I got what he was trying to say.
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Thu May 14, 2020 7:31 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Pretty sure this is just a typo, but to be clear:
Males have ONE X and Y chromosome.

Yeah, I just glossed past that because English isn't his native language. I got what he was trying to say.

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Postby VVerkia » Fri May 15, 2020 7:47 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:But what if the devil was real? What if the Bible and Quran were correct and Lucifer really was an actual being? Would you dear viewer try to talk to him?

If real, than probably we will meet...

If I gave you an occult ritual which you could use to summon the devil so you could ask him anything, would you do it?

No.

I personally would be very hesitant to summon the root of all evil, but I know some folks who definitely would do it.

I see one of ###grams with bones of animal during urban exploring...

Do you believe the devil is real?

Doesn't matter

Would you try to converse with him?

I'am not good in conversations. I have social anxiety. I rarely know what to ask someone. I am listener. If want to went about something, i can hear about it, if can feel better after went. But no lying, cheating, playing, etc., because hearing lies about someone mood, traumas, difficulties, when someone not tell about real problems - is way to nowhere.

Mirjt wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Transgender people are those whom view themselves as the opposite gender to that expected of them and do not conform to the gender expected of them

If i can speak from my experience, i see myself opposite to gender & sex, that was expected from me since childhood. If it is only gender, then i could simply "change wardrobe", but it is no solution for my problems.
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