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If you could speak with the Devil, would you do it?

Postby Rojava Free State » Sun May 03, 2020 6:26 pm

Lucifer. Satan. The father of lies. The formless one. The morning star. For more than 2,000 years, the Devil has terrorized the hearts of Jews, Christians and Muslims worldwide, and has played a central role in the abrahamic religions. The image of Lucifer, a perfect being who fell from grace, serves both as a symbol of arrogance and also of free will. These days the Devil is found everywhere from Southpark to your local Party City. Living in a mostly Christian culture, you can't go your whole life not hearing of Satan at least ten times. Now, I'm an atheist and I don't believe in a literal Devil or God, but I do see the devil as a symbol of unbridled evil. The devil represents the darkness inside of humanity and mankind's most primal and selfish instincts. Satan represents thousands of years of human violence and greed, and you might say we all have a little twist of cain within us.

But what if the devil was real? What if the Bible and Quran were correct and Lucifer really was an actual being? Would you dear viewer try to talk to him? If I gave you an occult ritual which you could use to summon the devil so you could ask him anything, would you do it? I personally would be very hesitant to summon the root of all evil, but I know some folks who definitely would do it. Do you believe the devil is real? Would you try to converse with him? Let me know down below.
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 03, 2020 6:29 pm

I usurp him and become Queen of Hell.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 03, 2020 6:31 pm

Well first I’d have to believe that such a thing exists
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Postby Kathol Rift » Sun May 03, 2020 6:32 pm

I wouldn’t seek out the opportunity to talk to him, but if the opportunity arose on its own, then I would just tell him to shove it. Yeah, I know, the father of all evil and everything, but I don’t think he actually has the power to directly hurt people, or he would do it more often. I would just tell him to quit screwing with humanity and leave people alone. Not that he would listen, but it would be worth a shot.
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Postby Nakena » Sun May 03, 2020 6:33 pm

There could also be the possibility that you did already so without being aware of it.
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Postby Tysoania » Sun May 03, 2020 6:35 pm

I would absolutely do it. Summon him, record an interview, and bam: bestselling book.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun May 03, 2020 6:35 pm

Nakena wrote:Theres could also be the possibility that you did already so without being aware of it.


That is true. They do say the devil is the most beautiful angel so maybe we looked out for the wrong guy for too long.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 03, 2020 6:35 pm

Satan is old news. All the cool kids worship Hecate, the triune goddess, mother, maiden, and crone.

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun May 03, 2020 6:35 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Lucifer. Satan. The father of lies. The formless one. The morning star. For more than 2,000 years, the Devil has terrorized the hearts of Jews, Christians and Muslims worldwide, and has played a central role in the abrahamic religions. The image of Lucifer, a perfect being who fell from grace, serves both as a symbol of arrogance and also of free will. These days the Devil is found everywhere from Southpark to your local Party City. Living in a mostly Christian culture, you can't go your whole life not hearing of Satan at least ten times. Now, I'm an atheist and I don't believe in a literal Devil or God, but I do see the devil as a symbol of unbridled evil. The devil represents the darkness inside of humanity and mankind's most primal and selfish instincts. Satan represents thousands of years of human violence and greed, and you might say we all have a little twist of cain within us.

But what if the devil was real? What if the Bible and Quran were correct and Lucifer really was an actual being? Would you dear viewer try to talk to him? If I gave you an occult ritual which you could use to summon the devil so you could ask him anything, would you do it? I personally would be very hesitant to summon the root of all evil, but I know some folks who definitely would do it. Do you believe the devil is real? Would you try to converse with him? Let me know down below.


The only people who unironically look at Satan as a symbol of "free will" are the edgelord atheists that call themselves "Satanists" to rile up fundies. You can tell they've never picked up a Bible in their life except maybe to burn it just for the sake of being edgy or otherwise they'd know that free will comes directly from God and that Satan was just an uppity punk with an ego who wanted God's power for himself.

Anyway, no. I would not summon the Devil to talk to him. That's how you get your soul snatched.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 03, 2020 6:35 pm

Nakena wrote:Theres could also be the possibility that you did already so without being aware of it.

Of course I know him. He’s me
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 03, 2020 6:36 pm

Bit of a nitpick, Satan is really only a major figure of Christianity.

In Judaism the word "Satan" is just an old Hebrew word meaning "Adversary" and can be applied to any supernatural being (Demons for example) that go against or maliciously challenge God's reign and rules (For example, the differences present in The Book of Job between Judaism and Christianity). While in Islam Satan isn't actually a thing (Or at least not as powerful as Lucifer in Christianity), instead the role of The Devil goes to Iblis, theorized to be the angel Azazil (Instead of Lucifer) who lost favor with God and in turn became more of a Djinn-like being.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 03, 2020 6:37 pm

Getting to talk to Lucifer would be p cool.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun May 03, 2020 6:37 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Lucifer. Satan. The father of lies. The formless one. The morning star. For more than 2,000 years, the Devil has terrorized the hearts of Jews, Christians and Muslims worldwide, and has played a central role in the abrahamic religions. The image of Lucifer, a perfect being who fell from grace, serves both as a symbol of arrogance and also of free will. These days the Devil is found everywhere from Southpark to your local Party City. Living in a mostly Christian culture, you can't go your whole life not hearing of Satan at least ten times. Now, I'm an atheist and I don't believe in a literal Devil or God, but I do see the devil as a symbol of unbridled evil. The devil represents the darkness inside of humanity and mankind's most primal and selfish instincts. Satan represents thousands of years of human violence and greed, and you might say we all have a little twist of cain within us.

But what if the devil was real? What if the Bible and Quran were correct and Lucifer really was an actual being? Would you dear viewer try to talk to him? If I gave you an occult ritual which you could use to summon the devil so you could ask him anything, would you do it? I personally would be very hesitant to summon the root of all evil, but I know some folks who definitely would do it. Do you believe the devil is real? Would you try to converse with him? Let me know down below.


The only people who unironically look at Satan as a symbol of "free will" are the edgelord atheists that call themselves "Satanists" to rile up fundies. You can tell they've never picked up a Bible in their life except maybe to burn it just for the sake of being edgy or otherwise they'd know that free will comes directly from God and that Satan was just an uppity punk with an ego who wanted God's power for himself.

Anyway, no. I would not summon the Devil to talk to him. That's how you get your soul snatched.


Yeah I'm not a LeVeyan, so I never saw the devil as a symbol of free will.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sun May 03, 2020 6:37 pm

I'm gonna ask who that handsome Devil is, of course.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun May 03, 2020 6:38 pm

New haven america wrote:Bit of a nitpick, Satan is really only a major figure of Christianity.

In Judaism the word "Satan" is just a word meaning "Adversary" and can be applied to any supernatural being (Demons for example) that go against or maliciously challenge God's reign and rules (For example, the differences present in The Book of Job between Judaism and Christianity). While in Islam Satan isn't actually a thing (Or at least not as powerful as Lucifer in Christianity), instead the role of The Devil goes to Iblis, theorized to be the angel Azazil (Instead of Lucifer) who lost favor with God and in turn became more of a Djinn-like being.


I always read it in Job that he was more of a prosecuting attorney.

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Postby Drewish » Sun May 03, 2020 6:38 pm

I'd just show him the link for Never Going To Give You Up by Rick Astley and become the greatest rickroller of all time.
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 03, 2020 6:38 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Lucifer. Satan. The father of lies. The formless one. The morning star. For more than 2,000 years, the Devil has terrorized the hearts of Jews, Christians and Muslims worldwide, and has played a central role in the abrahamic religions. The image of Lucifer, a perfect being who fell from grace, serves both as a symbol of arrogance and also of free will. These days the Devil is found everywhere from Southpark to your local Party City. Living in a mostly Christian culture, you can't go your whole life not hearing of Satan at least ten times. Now, I'm an atheist and I don't believe in a literal Devil or God, but I do see the devil as a symbol of unbridled evil. The devil represents the darkness inside of humanity and mankind's most primal and selfish instincts. Satan represents thousands of years of human violence and greed, and you might say we all have a little twist of cain within us.

But what if the devil was real? What if the Bible and Quran were correct and Lucifer really was an actual being? Would you dear viewer try to talk to him? If I gave you an occult ritual which you could use to summon the devil so you could ask him anything, would you do it? I personally would be very hesitant to summon the root of all evil, but I know some folks who definitely would do it. Do you believe the devil is real? Would you try to converse with him? Let me know down below.


The only people who unironically look at Satan as a symbol of "free will" are the edgelord atheists that call themselves "Satanists" to rile up fundies. You can tell they've never picked up a Bible in their life except maybe to burn it just for the sake of being edgy or otherwise they'd know that free will comes directly from God and that Satan was just an uppity punk with an ego who wanted God's power for himself.

Anyway, no. I would not summon the Devil to talk to him. That's how you get your soul snatched.

Ironically, most sects of Satanism doesn't actually care about free will and treats Satan as more of an apathetic figure than anything.

Like he even has his own commandments and guidelines, but doesn't actually give a shit if you follow them or not.
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Well... at least this time I don't have to play golf.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 03, 2020 6:39 pm

New haven america wrote:Bit of a nitpick, Satan is really only a major figure of Christianity.

In Judaism the word "Satan" is just a word meaning "Adversary" and can be applied to any supernatural being (Demons for example) that go against or maliciously challenge God's reign and rules (For example, the differences present in The Book of Job between Judaism and Christianity). While in Islam Satan isn't actually a thing (Or at least not as powerful as Lucifer in Christianity), instead the role of The Devil goes to Iblis, theorized to be the angel Azazil (Instead of Lucifer) who lost favor with God and in turn became more of a Djinn-like being.

Ya there really isn’t a devil like being in judaism. Especially not one that rules it’s own domain as that’s basically blasphemy.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun May 03, 2020 6:40 pm

Me: speaks Latin incantations in front of a mirror with salt around it.

Satan: Why have you summoned me mortal?

Me: Look at Jake Paul jumping over this car.

Satan: You evil son of a bitch. I'm out.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun May 03, 2020 6:40 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The only people who unironically look at Satan as a symbol of "free will" are the edgelord atheists that call themselves "Satanists" to rile up fundies. You can tell they've never picked up a Bible in their life except maybe to burn it just for the sake of being edgy or otherwise they'd know that free will comes directly from God and that Satan was just an uppity punk with an ego who wanted God's power for himself.

Anyway, no. I would not summon the Devil to talk to him. That's how you get your soul snatched.


Yeah I'm not a LeVeyan, so I never saw the devil as a symbol of free will.


It's probably one of the more absurd "alternative viewpoints" one could have, largely because the argumentative case to support such a viewpoint is shaky at best and virtually nonexistent at worst. You have to do some serious mental gymnastics to interrupt a dude rebelling against his maker to usurp his power as a heroic symbol of free will.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 03, 2020 6:41 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Well... at least this time I don't have to play golf.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 03, 2020 6:41 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Getting to talk to Lucifer would be p cool.

Wouldn’t that just be Hades?
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I used to talk to that guy, but I had to stop hanging out with him because he gave me terrible advice.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun May 03, 2020 6:41 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Bit of a nitpick, Satan is really only a major figure of Christianity.

In Judaism the word "Satan" is just a word meaning "Adversary" and can be applied to any supernatural being (Demons for example) that go against or maliciously challenge God's reign and rules (For example, the differences present in The Book of Job between Judaism and Christianity). While in Islam Satan isn't actually a thing (Or at least not as powerful as Lucifer in Christianity), instead the role of The Devil goes to Iblis, theorized to be the angel Azazil (Instead of Lucifer) who lost favor with God and in turn became more of a Djinn-like being.

Ya there really isn’t a devil like being in judaism. Especially not one that rules it’s own domain as that’s basically blasphemy.


Actually, that's entirely dependent on the form of Judaism. Satan was definitely a thing in Judaism around the time of Jesus.
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