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What is the best way for Democrats to proceed into 2020?

Keep Biden and focus on Trump's abuses
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Keep Biden with the intention of looking further into the complaint after the election
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Replace Biden
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Other (explain)
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 03, 2020 8:32 pm

Atheris wrote:
New haven america wrote:Maybe Bernie's supporters should've actually gone out and voted for him or something...

Maybe Bernie should've actually had a wider audience instead of millennials, and actually tried to get black people and women to vote for him...

It's almost like Bernie hiring the same campaign team that lost him the 2016 election was a mistake on his part or something?

But no, Bernie is a flawless messiah who is immune from any form of criticism.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun May 03, 2020 8:36 pm

New haven america wrote:
Atheris wrote:Maybe Bernie should've actually had a wider audience instead of millennials, and actually tried to get black people and women to vote for him...

It's almost like Bernie hiring the same campaign team that lost him the 2016 election was a mistake on his part or something?

But no, Bernie is a flawless messiah who is immune from any form of criticism.

Sounds like the Democrats excusing and dismissing the Biden allegations.
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Postby Mandicoria » Sun May 03, 2020 9:06 pm

New haven america wrote:
Mandicoria wrote:Trump already won the election lol, it was already lost when they chose a literal dementia ridden corpse candidate. Let alone the fact you have rape allegations and people willing to ignore it because "VOTE BLU NO MATTER WHO BRO!!!! WE GOTTA BEAT DA BLUMP!!!". Dems had their chance and they blew it. You literally cannot move forward, because it was never an option to begin with.

Maybe Bernie's supporters should've actually gone out and voted for him or something...

this tbh

love bernie and all but legit his entire campaign fell apart when he allowed an attitude among supporters to become complacent and EXPECT to win.
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 03, 2020 9:09 pm

Mandicoria wrote:
New haven america wrote:Maybe Bernie's supporters should've actually gone out and voted for him or something...

this tbh

love bernie and all but legit his entire campaign fell apart when he allowed an attitude among supporters to become complacent and EXPECT to win.

The problem though it that you claim it was the Dems who blew it, when it wasn't, it was Sander's voting base.

Despite claims to the contrary, the DNC is basically neutral on this and just goes with whoever gets the most votes, and that just so happened to be Biden.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun May 03, 2020 9:16 pm

Mandicoria wrote:
New haven america wrote:Maybe Bernie's supporters should've actually gone out and voted for him or something...

this tbh

love bernie and all but legit his entire campaign fell apart when he allowed an attitude among supporters to become complacent and EXPECT to win.

The kind of attitude they complained about Clinton's campaign having.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun May 03, 2020 9:35 pm

Do these allegations have substance?

How do we know if they are true or not? What’s the test for the truth?

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Postby Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 9:37 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Do these allegations have substance?

How do we know if they are true or not? What’s the test for the truth?

Wasn't he literally recorded on video doing it?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun May 03, 2020 9:38 pm

Atheris wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Do these allegations have substance?

How do we know if they are true or not? What’s the test for the truth?

Wasn't he literally recorded on video doing it?


Then how come he’s running for President?

Is this allowed in America (wouldn’t he be disqualified)? How come he can run?
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 03, 2020 9:39 pm

Atheris wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Do these allegations have substance?

How do we know if they are true or not? What’s the test for the truth?

Wasn't he literally recorded on video doing it?

IIRC, no.

If it was then it would be all over the headlines.
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 03, 2020 9:41 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Atheris wrote:Wasn't he literally recorded on video doing it?


Then how come he’s running for President?

Is this allowed in America (wouldn’t he be disqualified)? How come he can run?

Enjoy a video of Trump talking about how women let him molest and sexually assault them.
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Postby Mandicoria » Sun May 03, 2020 9:59 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Mandicoria wrote:this tbh

love bernie and all but legit his entire campaign fell apart when he allowed an attitude among supporters to become complacent and EXPECT to win.

The kind of attitude they complained about Clinton's campaign having.

Which is the same attitude the biden campaign's gonna have. Considering they still seem to think that everyone is a-ok with voting for a corpse (that likes to sniff the hair of young girls) when the president has a literal cult of personality with the boomers and good chunk of younger generations that were manipulated by more extreme right.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 10:03 pm

New haven america wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Then how come he’s running for President?

Is this allowed in America (wouldn’t he be disqualified)? How come he can run?

Enjoy a video of Trump talking about how women let him molest and sexually assault them.


I mean, if they LET him, that implies consent.

which to be honest seems likley, it's not exactly uncommon for women to use their bodies to get to celebrities.

Biden on the other hand, I mean, the guy has a history, on camera, of unwanted touching.
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Postby Mandicoria » Sun May 03, 2020 10:06 pm

New haven america wrote:
Mandicoria wrote:this tbh

love bernie and all but legit his entire campaign fell apart when he allowed an attitude among supporters to become complacent and EXPECT to win.

The problem though it that you claim it was the Dems who blew it, when it wasn't, it was Sander's voting base.

Despite claims to the contrary, the DNC is basically neutral on this and just goes with whoever gets the most votes, and that just so happened to be Biden.

They did blow it though. Not because Bernie voters didn't go for it or anything. But because they are continuing to be a corrupt bloated mass that does nothing to increase minority or younger generation representation. Much like the Republicans.

Regardless if Sanders voters blew it, the entire party lost its chance by encouraging new blood over the old Boomers and corrupt hillary centered politicians. Even if Sanders got the ticket they would've definitely dragged their feet the whole way, because he's something new. Even if he's a bit of a moderate, it would've still been a direction for the party to take and not be a near carbon copy of the republicans.

I was wrong to say that they "blew it". They're still blowing it. By continuing to encourage a culture of backing a shitty candidate because "well at least they're not republican lol!!!!!".
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Postby Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 10:08 pm

New haven america wrote:
Atheris wrote:Wasn't he literally recorded on video doing it?

IIRC, no.

If it was then it would be all over the headlines.

I was thinking of Bloomberg, my bad.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 10:09 pm

Mandicoria wrote:
New haven america wrote:The problem though it that you claim it was the Dems who blew it, when it wasn't, it was Sander's voting base.

Despite claims to the contrary, the DNC is basically neutral on this and just goes with whoever gets the most votes, and that just so happened to be Biden.

They did blow it though. Not because Bernie voters didn't go for it or anything. But because they are continuing to be a corrupt bloated mass that does nothing to increase minority or younger generation representation. Much like the Republicans.

Regardless if Sanders voters blew it, the entire party lost its chance by encouraging new blood over the old Boomers and corrupt hillary centered politicians. Even if Sanders got the ticket they would've definitely dragged their feet the whole way, because he's something new. Even if he's a bit of a moderate, it would've still been a direction for the party to take and not be a near carbon copy of the republicans.

I was wrong to say that they "blew it". They're still blowing it. By continuing to encourage a culture of backing a shitty candidate because "well at least they're not republican lol!!!!!".


but didn't you know Mandicoria? Trump is after all, the MOST DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN UNITED STATES HISTORY.

and IMMEDIATE threat that must be dealt with....but not until after we go on multiple vacations and sign bills with the Republicans.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun May 03, 2020 10:52 pm

New haven america wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Then how come he’s running for President?

Is this allowed in America (wouldn’t he be disqualified)? How come he can run?

Enjoy a video of Trump talking about how women let him molest and sexually assault them.

That's just locker room talk.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 10:54 pm



Have you been in a locker room or military barracks?

Trump is softer than baby shit by comparison.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun May 03, 2020 10:54 pm

Are many democrats not going to vote democrat because it’s Biden and not Sanders?

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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 10:56 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Are many democrats not going to vote democrat because it’s Biden and not Sanders?


Seems so, with dncexit and walkaway it does. Not to mention i hear lots of talk about dismantling the dnc by pushing a third party past 5%
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Postby Nakena » Sun May 03, 2020 10:57 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Are many democrats not going to vote democrat because it’s Biden and not Sanders?


Theres a small but dedicated and very vocal numbers of far-left supporters of Sanders who are disgruntled and unhappy with the outcome of the primaries. They will continue to pose a constant interruption throughout the campaign and are likely to vote for 3rd Party Candidates or stay at home.

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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 10:59 pm

Nakena wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Are many democrats not going to vote democrat because it’s Biden and not Sanders?


Theres a small but dedicated and very vocal numbers of far-left supporters of Sanders who are disgruntled and unhappy with the outcome of the primaries. They will continue to pose a constant interruption throughout the campaign and are likely to vote for 3rd Party Candidates or stay at home.


I think its a not insignificant amount but yes

Also, the democratic socialists of america have stated they will not endorse him.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun May 03, 2020 11:05 pm

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So then Trump will win again?

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Postby Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 11:07 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:^
So then Trump will win again?

Probably.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 11:08 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:^
So then Trump will win again?


Most likley, he dosnt have any real opposition

The only thing the dems want is the economy to tank so they can try and blame Trump.

I mean they rarley speak about issues other than “ we have to beat Trump”
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun May 03, 2020 11:12 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Theres a small but dedicated and very vocal numbers of far-left supporters of Sanders who are disgruntled and unhappy with the outcome of the primaries. They will continue to pose a constant interruption throughout the campaign and are likely to vote for 3rd Party Candidates or stay at home.


I think its a not insignificant amount but yes

Also, the democratic socialists of america have stated they will not endorse him.

Now a semi branch of The Democratic Party, with Rashida Tlaib, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and other minor candidates. Who support Democrat Socialist or Socialist Democrat Bernie Sanders who caucuses with the Democrats in congress as an independent Democrat Senator:

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