Moving Forward from Biden Allegations

[Nazeroth]

Feel free to actually make an argument whenever you'd like.

nah

if you think the DNC didn't rig the system to destroy bernie sanders and prop up Biden, there is no saving you.

[Cisairse]

In which case their votes will not be valid.

Well, it seems a bit silly to have a convention with delegates voting if most of the delegates aren't even allowed to change their vote anyway, even under extreme circumstances.

Okay?

They're allowed to change their vote if-and-only-if no candidate manages to win a majority of pledged delegates. Biden is pretty much guaranteed to do that unless he withdraws.

[Cisairse]

Feel free to actually make an argument whenever you'd like.

nah

if you think the DNC didn't rig the system to destroy bernie sanders and prop up Biden, there is no saving you.

I apologize for not believing in unfounded conspiracy theories, then.

[Nazeroth]

nah

if you think the DNC didn't rig the system to destroy bernie sanders and prop up Biden, there is no saving you.

I apologize for not believing in unfounded conspiracy theories, then.

yes, its such a conspiracy that the estbalishment DNC would pressure all the other candidates to drop out and support their most establishment man Joe Biden.

Going from basically last place to first....

[Bienenhalde]

Well, it seems a bit silly to have a convention with delegates voting if most of the delegates aren't even allowed to change their vote anyway, even under extreme circumstances.

Okay?

They're allowed to change their vote if-and-only-if no candidate manages to win a majority of pledged delegates. Biden is pretty much guaranteed to do that unless he withdraws.

Yes, but compelling evidence that the candidate commited some serious crime coming out at the last minute seems like it should be considered a legitimate reason to change one's vote as well. I am not saying Biden is necessarily guilty, but I think the Democratic Party leadership should be prepared just in case.

[Bienenhalde]

Feel free to actually make an argument whenever you'd like.

nah

if you think the DNC didn't rig the system to destroy bernie sanders and prop up Biden, there is no saving you.

If you think people actually like Bernie outside of a loud but small minority of extreme leftists, there is no saving you. :^)

[Nazeroth]

nah

if you think the DNC didn't rig the system to destroy bernie sanders and prop up Biden, there is no saving you.

If you think people actually like Bernie outside of a loud but small minority of extreme leftists, there is no saving you. :^)

i wouldn't say small, i would say a significant minority are Bernie Sanders voters

besides im not a sanders fan, I just can see it for the dirty deed it was.

[Bienenhalde]

If you think people actually like Bernie outside of a loud but small minority of extreme leftists, there is no saving you. :^)

i wouldn't say small, i would say a significant minority are Bernie Sanders voters

besides im not a sanders fan, I just can see it for the dirty deed it was.

So what? You would rather pretend that only crazy left-wing extremists oppose Trump and that the only way Democrats could get a sensible candidate would be by cheating?

[Asardia]

It sickens me that politicians can get away with rape and sexual assault. They praise #MeToo but then claim it's a division tactic when it's done against them. I see Twitter Activists saying this is a fucking Bernie Bro ploy to give the nomination to Sanders. Both parties suck. This is why I advocate for 3rd parties to become major players in the government. But at the same time, the same people complaining about their choices also tend to stay at home and refuse to vote. We're stuck with two morally corrupt individuals because Americans can't take the polls seriously.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I apologize for not believing in unfounded conspiracy theories, then.

yes, its such a conspiracy that the estbalishment DNC would pressure all the other candidates to drop out and support their most establishment man Joe Biden.

Going from basically last place to first....

Yes, they did it to Bernie again.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I apologize for not believing in unfounded conspiracy theories, then.

yes, its such a conspiracy that the estbalishment DNC would pressure all the other candidates to drop out and support their most establishment man Joe Biden.

Going from basically last place to first....

Which will more than likely cost the DNC the election. Again.

[Bienenhalde]

yes, its such a conspiracy that the estbalishment DNC would pressure all the other candidates to drop out and support their most establishment man Joe Biden.

Going from basically last place to first....

Which will more than likely cost the DNC the election. Again.

Well, everything is up in the air and might change depending on how the public responds to the allegations against Biden, but before that there were numerous polls that showed Biden doing better than Sanders against Donald Trump. So how would the Democrats losing the election by supporting a candidate who is more popular with the general electorate? That really doesn't make any sense.

[Nazeroth]

Which will more than likely cost the DNC the election. Again.

Well, everything is up in the air and might change depending on how the public responds to the allegations against Biden, but before that there were numerous polls that showed Biden doing better than Sanders against Donald Trump. So how would the Democrats losing the election by supporting a candidate who is more popular with the general electorate? That really doesn't make any sense.

The walk away movement and demexit are a thing and its not slowing down and people keep talking about the green party.

[Cisairse]

I apologize for not believing in unfounded conspiracy theories, then.

yes, its such a conspiracy that the estbalishment DNC would pressure all the other candidates to drop out and support their most establishment man Joe Biden.

Going from basically last place to first....

Which was widely anticipated among everyone closely following the election for literally months prior to SC.

Feel free to provide even a single shred of credible evidence for the DNC being a spooky boogieman that controls the primaries from behind the scenes.

[Nazeroth]

yes, its such a conspiracy that the estbalishment DNC would pressure all the other candidates to drop out and support their most establishment man Joe Biden.

Going from basically last place to first....

Which was widely anticipated among everyone closely following the election for literally months prior to SC.

Feel free to provide even a single shred of credible evidence for the DNC being a spooky boogieman that controls the primaries from behind the scenes.

Oh so if they fuck people in open its okay? Actually now that i think about it, thats what the dnc does to its voter base on the regular.

[Cisairse]

Okay?

They're allowed to change their vote if-and-only-if no candidate manages to win a majority of pledged delegates. Biden is pretty much guaranteed to do that unless he withdraws.

Yes, but compelling evidence that the candidate commited some serious crime coming out at the last minute seems like it should be considered a legitimate reason to change one's vote as well. I am not saying Biden is necessarily guilty, but I think the Democratic Party leadership should be prepared just in case.

I don't disagree with you, but what "seems like it should be considered a legitimate reason" means literally nothing because the rules are the rules. They should probably change them for the next election, but they can't for this one.

nah

if you think the DNC didn't rig the system to destroy bernie sanders and prop up Biden, there is no saving you.

If you think people actually like Bernie outside of a loud but small minority of extreme leftists, there is no saving you. :^)

Not even, man. Actual extreme leftists hate Bernie. The only people who unironically like Bernie are zoomers and left-of-centers who think they're far-left; Bernie is himself a left-of-center who says he's far-left when he's anything bot.

It sickens me that politicians can get away with rape and sexual assault. They praise #MeToo but then claim it's a division tactic when it's done against them. I see Twitter Activists saying this is a fucking Bernie Bro ploy to give the nomination to Sanders. Both parties suck. This is why I advocate for 3rd parties to become major players in the government. But at the same time, the same people complaining about their choices also tend to stay at home and refuse to vote. We're stuck with two morally corrupt individuals because Americans can't take the polls seriously.

I mean there isn't a lot of credible evidence that Biden committed sexual assault, but there is some evidence that this was (and is) a plot to sink Biden.

[Asardia]

It sickens me that politicians can get away with rape and sexual assault. They praise #MeToo but then claim it's a division tactic when it's done against them. I see Twitter Activists saying this is a fucking Bernie Bro ploy to give the nomination to Sanders. Both parties suck. This is why I advocate for 3rd parties to become major players in the government. But at the same time, the same people complaining about their choices also tend to stay at home and refuse to vote. We're stuck with two morally corrupt individuals because Americans can't take the polls seriously.

I mean there isn't a lot of credible evidence that Biden committed sexual assault, but there is some evidence that this was (and is) a plot to sink Biden.

The same could be said for many other people whose careers/lives were ruined with similar "allegations". My point is this double standard right here.

[Cisairse]

I mean there isn't a lot of credible evidence that Biden committed sexual assault, but there is some evidence that this was (and is) a plot to sink Biden.

The same could be said for many other people whose careers/lives were ruined with similar "allegations". My point is this double standard right here.

There are also people whose careers haven't been ruined despite facing much more credible allegations.

[Inner Firatrundessia]

There is a sickening amount of MEN on the SO CALLED "left" who will conveniently forget the concept of "believing women" once it suits their political agenda. We have Tara Read, and eight other brave womyn speak out against former vice president Joe Biden, detailing uncomfortable and NON-consentual touching. Tara's story broke my heart, where she detailed the digital RAPE in the early 1990s. Honestly I cried when I heard her story. Poor Tara, it must be so painful for her to come forward.

Now that she had come forwards, guess how the liberal left (which, may I remind you, is MALE dominated) react? They dismiss her story as 'uncredible', and throw the most vile and disgusting insults at her. Honestly the reaction was the EXACT SAME as how right wing men have shifted on the female victims of Kavunaugh and Roy Moore.

And how do the liberal "feminist" institutions react? They turn their back on Tara. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

Of course the hypocrite conservative people will 'believe' her, much as how the liberal men only pretend to believe Ford because it suits their political agenda. But the truth is that the patriarchy is embedded deep within our society. And liberal "feminism" only serves to make the Patriarchy more "woke" instead of actually abolishing it. That's the truth. This is why I left liberal so-called "feminism" for radical feminism.

My heart breaks for Tara and every other womyn whom the system has failed.

[Inner Firatrundessia]

The same could be said for many other people whose careers/lives were ruined with similar "allegations". My point is this double standard right here.

There are also people whose careers haven't been ruined despite facing much more credible allegations.

You are the epitome of why liberal '''''''''feminism''''''''' is a fucking joke. Like, who are you to seem something 'un'credible just because it suits your agenda? Please

[Shofercia]

There is a sickening amount of MEN on the SO CALLED "left" who will conveniently forget the concept of "believing women" once it suits their political agenda. We have Tara Read, and eight other brave womyn speak out against former vice president Joe Biden, detailing uncomfortable and NON-consentual touching. Tara's story broke my heart, where she detailed the digital RAPE in the early 1990s. Honestly I cried when I heard her story. Poor Tara, it must be so painful for her to come forward.

Now that she had come forwards, guess how the liberal left (which, may I remind you, is MALE dominated) react? They dismiss her story as 'uncredible', and throw the most vile and disgusting insults at her. Honestly the reaction was the EXACT SAME as how right wing men have shifted on the female victims of Kavunaugh and Roy Moore.

And how do the liberal "feminist" institutions react? They turn their back on Tara. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

Of course the hypocrite conservative people will 'believe' her, much as how the liberal men only pretend to believe Ford because it suits their political agenda. But the truth is that the patriarchy is embedded deep within our society. And liberal "feminism" only serves to make the Patriarchy more "woke" instead of actually abolishing it. That's the truth. This is why I left liberal so-called "feminism" for radical feminism.

My heart breaks for Tara and every other womyn whom the system has failed.

Also: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/199 ... ns-office/

Newly discovered court documents show that in 1996, Tara Reade told her ex-husband that she was sexually harassed “in U.S. Senator Joe Biden’s office.” Reade’s then-husband Theodore Dronen filed the declaration, which was obtained by the San Louis Obispo Tribune, while contesting a restraining order that Reade had filed against him after he filed for divorce. Dronen explains that Reade told him “on several occasions” about “a problem that she was having at work regarding sexual harassment, in U.S. Senator Joe Biden’s office.”

“It was obvious that this event had a very traumatic effect on (Reade), and that she is still sensitive and effected by it today,” Dronen explains, saying that the alleged incident and others described in the document “color [Reade’s] perception and judgment” with respect to the restraining order. Reade’s lawyer, Douglas Wigdor, said the document “is further support that Ms. Reade was sexually assaulted and sexually harassed by then Senator Joe Biden,” although Dronen does not mention that Reade told him it was Biden that had sexually harassed her. Reade’s former neighbor has come forward to state on the record that Reade told her Biden had assaulted her in 1995, two years after the alleged assault occurred. Reade has also identified a woman, who called into a 1993 clip from CNN’s Larry King Live to discuss “problems” her daughter had had with a U.S. senator, as her mother.

So in order to get President Trump reelected, at Putin's behest, Tara Reade actually has a time machine which she uses to travel back in time, and leave evidence that Biden sexually assaulted her... or there's this crazy notion that an entitled politician sexually assaulted an innocent woman. One of those is a conspiracy theory. But I wonder, which one is it?

[Albrenia]

I'm not sure why you keep mentioning Russa Shof. Their meddling, if true, doesn't seem to have anything to do with these accusations.

[Shofercia]

I'm not sure why you keep mentioning Russa Shof. Their meddling, if true, doesn't seem to have anything to do with these accusations.

Because of posts like this one:

Also, she has a history of being pro-Russia/Putin.

Because Tara Reade has been accused of being pro-Putin, pro-Bernie, pro-insertsomethinghere, by those who call themselves "Liberals" just to defend their newly anointed candidate. Thinking that Tara Reade is coming forward with her allegations, either solely, or primarily because of her political bias, is ridiculous; ergo, I'm making fun of it.

[Albrenia]

I'm not sure why you keep mentioning Russa Shof. Their meddling, if true, doesn't seem to have anything to do with these accusations.

Because of posts like this one:

Also, she has a history of being pro-Russia/Putin.

Because Tara Reade has been accused of being pro-Putin, pro-Bernie, pro-insertsomethinghere, by those who call themselves "Liberals" just to defend their newly anointed candidate. Thinking that Tara Reade is coming forward with her allegations, either solely, or primarily because of her political bias, is ridiculous; ergo, I'm making fun of it.

Ah, ok. I agree that her having anything to do with the Russians seems highly unlikely. She might have positive opinions on them, but that's not really relevant.

[Kannap]

Because of posts like this one:



Because Tara Reade has been accused of being pro-Putin, pro-Bernie, pro-insertsomethinghere, by those who call themselves "Liberals" just to defend their newly anointed candidate. Thinking that Tara Reade is coming forward with her allegations, either solely, or primarily because of her political bias, is ridiculous; ergo, I'm making fun of it.

Ah, ok. I agree that her having anything to do with the Russians seems highly unlikely. She might have positive opinions on them, but that's not really relevant.

More so it's just the age long American mythos that anything you don't like is the Soviets - or now Russians - fault.