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What is the best way for Democrats to proceed into 2020?

Keep Biden and focus on Trump's abuses
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Keep Biden with the intention of looking further into the complaint after the election
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Replace Biden
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Other (explain)
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Postby Bobabay » Wed May 06, 2020 6:17 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Bobabay wrote:No, it’s politicians being politicians.


Not really in this case

Your defending him because of his age

Silly grandpa just cant help himself huh?

I’m not defending his touching. I’m defending him not wanting to open the U of Delaware Senate archives because they probably include speech’s from the 70’s or 90’s that would look bad in 2020 politics.

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Postby Albrenia » Wed May 06, 2020 6:17 pm

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That's also why I'm not condemning them for doing so, and I rather hope Third Parties gain a good deal more power in the future of the US. Although I honestly also can well understand those who consider voting for Biden as being the lesser of two evils what with the possibility of another four years of a Trump unconcerned with re-election.


Four years of Trump will come and go

They would be giving biden and his crew a possible 8 and not to mention they would bury the leftists who dared stand in their way.

Progressives and the democratic socialist movement would be destroyed


Four more years of Trump could do some seriously permanent damage to the US. Particularly with the metric of his not having to worry about winning another election in the mix.

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Postby Qabea » Wed May 06, 2020 6:17 pm

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Qabea wrote:Source?


Sorry sexually harassing is the correct term

Again, I don't want to take your word for it. Can you link me to the video so I can see for myself?
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Postby Nazeroth » Wed May 06, 2020 6:18 pm

Bobabay wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Not really in this case

Your defending him because of his age

Silly grandpa just cant help himself huh?

I’m not defending his touching. I’m defending him not wanting to open the U of Delaware Senate archives because they probably include speech’s from the 70’s or 90’s that would look bad in 2020 politics.


Oh you mean like how peoples facebook and twitter history get used?

Fuck him
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Postby Nazeroth » Wed May 06, 2020 6:19 pm

Qabea wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Sorry sexually harassing is the correct term

Again, I don't want to take your word for it. Can you link me to the video so I can see for myself?

https://youtu.be/xSSMG0MaEnQ
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Postby Bobabay » Wed May 06, 2020 6:20 pm

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Bobabay wrote:I think it makes sense. When your in politics as long as he is your going to say things in the past that aren’t popular in the future. Which I understand since the times change.

Though, my reservation seems to be that whoever was interviewing him that night suggested that he didn't have to drop all the records and instead should allow them to search "Tara Reade" in the database. Nothing less, nothing more; this suggestion he dodged.

That I agree looks suspicious and weird but I don’t know how complicated it is to search records/ what it entails. There might be another reason. I don’t know enough.

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Postby Bobabay » Wed May 06, 2020 6:21 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Bobabay wrote:I’m not defending his touching. I’m defending him not wanting to open the U of Delaware Senate archives because they probably include speech’s from the 70’s or 90’s that would look bad in 2020 politics.


Oh you mean like how peoples facebook and twitter history get used?

Fuck him

I don’t know why that’s worth a fuck him. I’m pretty sure everyone has said something in their past that they don’t want brought up since it could put you in a bad light.

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Postby Nazeroth » Wed May 06, 2020 6:22 pm

Bobabay wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Oh you mean like how peoples facebook and twitter history get used?

Fuck him

I don’t know why that’s worth a fuck him. I’m pretty sure everyone has said something in their past that they don’t want brought up since it could put you in a bad light.


Great so why should he be protected while everyone else gets fired from there jobs or cancelled?
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed May 06, 2020 6:24 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Everybody was so worried about a socialist, they picked a rapist instead.

I have a feeling four more years of Trump lie ahead. Four hellish, violent years.


They're going to be hellish and violent regardless.

That's just where the culture is at.
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Postby Bobabay » Wed May 06, 2020 6:25 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Bobabay wrote:I don’t know why that’s worth a fuck him. I’m pretty sure everyone has said something in their past that they don’t want brought up since it could put you in a bad light.


Great so why should he be protected while everyone else gets fired from there jobs or cancelled?

I don't think people should be fired/canceled unless it's proven if you are talking about sexual assault. If you're talking about bringing up stuff from the past I don't think they should be fired if the event occurred long enough ago that it can be said to no longer reflect their present views/maturity. Unless we are talking about something like murder than that is unforgivable.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 06, 2020 6:26 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Bobabay wrote:I’m not defending his touching. I’m defending him not wanting to open the U of Delaware Senate archives because they probably include speech’s from the 70’s or 90’s that would look bad in 2020 politics.


Oh you mean like how peoples facebook and twitter history get used?

Fuck him


:blink: How does that compare?

-edit-

Just saw the comment. Well in the case of facebook/twitter, people get fired for lying to their employers, saying hateful violent garbages, etc., etc.

It’s not really the same as some crap say 40+ years ago.

Now; you would have a real good argument if you showed the comments of 40 years ago and he continued to say/believe the same things. Makes for a good “he never learned” argument.
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Postby Nazeroth » Wed May 06, 2020 6:26 pm

Bobabay wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Great so why should he be protected while everyone else gets fired from there jobs or cancelled?

I don't think people should be fired/canceled unless it's proven if you are talking about sexual assault. If you're talking about bringing up stuff from the past I don't think they should be fired if the event occurred long enough ago that it can be said to no longer reflect their present views/maturity. Unless we are talking about something like murder than that is unforgivable.


If biden had some n-bombs in those speechs among other things watch dems line up to protect him.
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Postby Bobabay » Wed May 06, 2020 6:28 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Bobabay wrote:I don't think people should be fired/canceled unless it's proven if you are talking about sexual assault. If you're talking about bringing up stuff from the past I don't think they should be fired if the event occurred long enough ago that it can be said to no longer reflect their present views/maturity. Unless we are talking about something like murder than that is unforgivable.


If biden had some n-bombs in those speechs among other things watch dems line up to protect him.

If he said some N-bombs then I would agree that he should be reprimanded. I don't think he did though because I feel like that would have been noted/ reported by some of his peers at least.

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Postby Qabea » Wed May 06, 2020 6:28 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Qabea wrote:Again, I don't want to take your word for it. Can you link me to the video so I can see for myself?

https://youtu.be/xSSMG0MaEnQ

Lol, he's a creep. So what?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed May 06, 2020 6:28 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Bobabay wrote:I don't think people should be fired/canceled unless it's proven if you are talking about sexual assault. If you're talking about bringing up stuff from the past I don't think they should be fired if the event occurred long enough ago that it can be said to no longer reflect their present views/maturity. Unless we are talking about something like murder than that is unforgivable.


If biden had some n-bombs in those speechs among other things watch dems line up to protect him.

We agree, good post.
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Postby New haven america » Wed May 06, 2020 6:31 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Oh you mean like how peoples facebook and twitter history get used?

Fuck him


:blink: How does that compare?

He thinks people actually believe in Thought Crimes.

It's best to just not question their logic, it doesn't make much sense at the best of times.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 06, 2020 6:37 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Bobabay wrote:I don't think people should be fired/canceled unless it's proven if you are talking about sexual assault. If you're talking about bringing up stuff from the past I don't think they should be fired if the event occurred long enough ago that it can be said to no longer reflect their present views/maturity. Unless we are talking about something like murder than that is unforgivable.


If biden had some n-bombs in those speechs among other things watch dems line up to protect him.


How many Senators speeches had the word nigger in them?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 06, 2020 6:47 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
If biden had some n-bombs in those speechs among other things watch dems line up to protect him.

We agree, good post.


If you have the proof, by all means.

We have already seen the cultists defend “grab ‘em by the pussy”
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Postby Nazeroth » Wed May 06, 2020 7:06 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
:blink: How does that compare?

He thinks people actually believe in Thought Crimes.

It's best to just not question their logic, it doesn't make much sense at the best of times.



Firs off you didnt ask me my pronouns

Second off not people, just you.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed May 06, 2020 7:23 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:We agree, good post.


If you have the proof, by all means.

We have already seen the cultists defend “grab ‘em by the pussy”


Not to mention the rampant corruption in the Trump White House, and the chilling statements of the President's power being 'absolute' or that it 'will not be questioned'.

Thankfully Trump backpeddled on the 'my power is absolute' statement, but from what I've seen on these boards you can certainly be blamed for opinions you had in the past.

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Postby Nazeroth » Wed May 06, 2020 7:27 pm

Albrenia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
If you have the proof, by all means.

We have already seen the cultists defend “grab ‘em by the pussy”


Not to mention the rampant corruption in the Trump White House, and the chilling statements of the President's power being 'absolute' or that it 'will not be questioned'.

Thankfully Trump backpeddled on the 'my power is absolute' statement, but from what I've seen on these boards you can certainly be blamed for opinions you had in the past.


Words vs actions, delegating power to govenors, of which the democrat variety seem to be drunk on.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed May 06, 2020 7:31 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Not to mention the rampant corruption in the Trump White House, and the chilling statements of the President's power being 'absolute' or that it 'will not be questioned'.

Thankfully Trump backpeddled on the 'my power is absolute' statement, but from what I've seen on these boards you can certainly be blamed for opinions you had in the past.


Words vs actions, delegating power to govenors, of which the democrat variety seem to be drunk on.


Trying to prevent mass pandemic deaths isn't being drunk on power, although there's one or two who have rather fucked that up by going too far.

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Postby Nazeroth » Wed May 06, 2020 7:32 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Words vs actions, delegating power to govenors, of which the democrat variety seem to be drunk on.


Trying to prevent mass pandemic deaths isn't being drunk on power, although there's one or two who have rather fucked that up by going too far.


One or two is all it takes
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed May 06, 2020 9:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:We agree, good post.


If you have the proof, by all means.

We have already seen the cultists defend “grab ‘em by the pussy”

Actually by the n I thought he meant nuclear bombs in those speeches, it took me a while to figure out he meant if Biden had used the N word. Actually if Biden has anything dems line up to protect him, like many are doing right now with the Biden sexual allegations against him. So yes good post, because they are defending Biden against the sexual allegations, while they did not believe Brett Kavanaugh and attacked him.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed May 06, 2020 10:01 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
If you have the proof, by all means.

We have already seen the cultists defend “grab ‘em by the pussy”

Actually by the n I thought he meant nuclear bombs in those speeches, it took me a while to figure out he meant if Biden had used the N word. Actually if Biden has anything dems line up to protect him, like many are doing right now with the Biden sexual allegations against him. So yes good post, because they are defending Biden against the sexual allegations, while they did not believe Brett Kavanaugh and attacked him.


Isn't that entirely reasonable to you, though? That Democrats should slavishly defend Biden while condemning Kavanaugh for exactly the same thing, since they are Proud Democrats who think Biden will Make America Great Again?

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