Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[Nobel Hobos 2]

What reason is there to think Trump knows hydroxychloroquine is useless to protect him? He somehow saw this study weeks before we did?

The Physician to the President would have to be lying, too.

Risk coronary trauma for no clear benefits, especially for someone that obese?

I'm sure that crossed the Physician's mind, but what can he do? His "patient" can not only fire him, but also bust him down in the military.

Physicians to the President have traditionally been recruited from the military. It's not looking like a good idea now.

[The Alma Mater]

No Evidence Hydroxychloroquine Is Helpful In Preventing COVID-19, Study Finds

Which lends credibility to the likelihood Trump was bullshitting as always when he claimed to be taking it.

What reason is there to think Trump knows hydroxychloroquine is useless to protect him? He somehow saw this study weeks before we did?

The Physician to the President would have to be lying, too.

The lancet published a similar study under 90k patients two weeks ago.
Though it is now considering withdrawing it.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Immediate effects from the vaccine are near impossible. It will have been tested for that.

A year seems excessively cautious, but it's your choice I guess. I will get it immediately it's offered to me.

*cough* softenon*cough*

Which causes birth defects. But you know what? It's still widely used.

There's actually a bunch of modern medicines which are suspected of causing birth defects. They can't ethically be tested for that (fetus can't give consent) so they're just Not Recommended for pregnant women.

How long would be prudent in your view? How many tens of millions of people will take it before you think "OK, that's safe enough for me" ..?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

What reason is there to think Trump knows hydroxychloroquine is useless to protect him? He somehow saw this study weeks before we did?

The Physician to the President would have to be lying, too.

The lancet published a similar study under 90k patients two weeks ago.
Though it is now considering withdrawing it.

It was kinda rubbish tbh.
They didn't even try to account for prescription bias (ie that only the sickest people might have got 'quine).

[The New California Republic]

*cough* softenon*cough*

Which causes birth defects. But you know what? It's still widely used.

...not on pregnant women though.

[Salandriagado]

No Evidence Hydroxychloroquine Is Helpful In Preventing COVID-19, Study Finds

Which lends credibility to the likelihood Trump was bullshitting as always when he claimed to be taking it.

Only evidence I saw said it's hurtful.

That one was for giving it to people who are already severely ill to try to make them better. This one was for giving it to people who aren't ill yet to try to stop them getting it (the way Trump has been taking it). Different questions, potentially different answers.


EDIT: Sorry, got confused between the two papers that I read today. This one isn't about the way Trump has been taking it. It's about giving it to people who have been exposed to the virus before they develop symptoms to prevent them getting symptoms, rather than taking it pre-exposure, as Trump has been.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That’s why any package we receive is left inside our garage for several days. And we handle them with gloves, masks on and I make sure to wipe the parcels with disinfecting wipes prior to opening. If the contents aren’t individually wrapped, I disinfect them too. Just in case.

You really don't need to worry about the stuff inside the package because it's been so long since it was packed. You only need to be careful about touching the outside of the package when you bring it in, because the delivery driver could have touched it or breathed on it as he was delivering it. If you get the virus from a package, you're getting it from the delivery guy, not the sender.

I’m not taking any risks that could expose myself or my husband. You do you of course. Thank you.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

If they're leaving the package in the garage for a few days, I assume it's not fresh groceries and anything inside would be fine by the time they open it.

Nanatsu is a She btw. I was referring more to wiping the package (AND contents) down with disinfectant wipes. This is a much more assured way of killing the virus than just waiting.

And you're being disturbingly vague about how long to wait. Does "shipping PROBABLY took so long the viruses are dead" really seem like sound advice to you?

To me it is, exactly. My husband is asthmatic, I’m immunocompromised. My in-laws are at high risk. I’m not taking any chances if I can help it.

[Rojava Free State]

Only evidence I saw said it's hurtful.

That one was for giving it to people who are already severely ill to try to make them better. This one was for giving it to people who aren't ill yet to try to stop them getting it (the way Trump has been taking it). Different questions, potentially different answers.


EDIT: Sorry, got confused between the two papers that I read today. This one isn't about the way Trump has been taking it. It's about giving it to people who have been exposed to the virus before they develop symptoms to prevent them getting symptoms, rather than taking it pre-exposure, as Trump has been.

It concerns me how so many people around trump got sick but he is okay. I'm starting to wonder if he's an asymptomatic super spreader.

[-SARS-]

That one was for giving it to people who are already severely ill to try to make them better. This one was for giving it to people who aren't ill yet to try to stop them getting it (the way Trump has been taking it). Different questions, potentially different answers.


EDIT: Sorry, got confused between the two papers that I read today. This one isn't about the way Trump has been taking it. It's about giving it to people who have been exposed to the virus before they develop symptoms to prevent them getting symptoms, rather than taking it pre-exposure, as Trump has been.

It concerns me how so many people around trump got sick but he is okay. I'm starting to wonder if he's an asymptomatic super spreader.

He's been tested a couple of times, and the cases close to him have occurred over a couple of months. So no, they aren't catching it from him.

[Kowani]

So what I learned today is that the economy is sitting at 20% unemployment.

[Rojava Free State]

So what I learned today is that the economy is sitting at 20% unemployment.

Unemployment is still rising in my state despite the end of the official lockdown.

[Dylar]

So what I learned today is that the economy is sitting at 20% unemployment.

Unemployment is still rising in my state despite the end of the official lockdown.

I have to try and compete with 3 million+ unemployed people to try and get a job. Shit's tough. But at least I got my first few unemployment checks.

[La Xinga]

Why do so much people not know anyone diagnosed with COVID? I mean, thank the Lord they didn't, but people don't know anyone?

[Cannot think of a name]

Why do so much people not know anyone diagnosed with COVID? I mean, thank the Lord they didn't, but people don't know anyone?

Finally talked to my friend who was hospitalized twice during his illness. That was a huge relief.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Why do so much people not know anyone diagnosed with COVID? I mean, thank the Lord they didn't, but people don't know anyone?

Lucky, or they do not have a large circle of friends or a big, extended family.

[San Lumen]

So what I learned today is that the economy is sitting at 20% unemployment.

That is a massive number and I do expect it to go higher

[Salandriagado]

Why do so much people not know anyone diagnosed with COVID? I mean, thank the Lord they didn't, but people don't know anyone?

Shitty diagnosis rates, people from areas that haven't had that many cases, and the tendency of cases to cluster in social groups ("people you know" is not a representative sample - if one of them has had it, they've likely given it to at least some of the others, so you're likely to either know lots of people who've had it or none at all).

[San Lumen]

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/0 ... n=campaign

It appears a cure is on the horizon

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Why do so much people not know anyone diagnosed with COVID? I mean, thank the Lord they didn't, but people don't know anyone?

Seven billion people around the world.

[The Alma Mater]

Why do so much people not know anyone diagnosed with COVID? I mean, thank the Lord they didn't, but people don't know anyone?

Perhaps many people here are introverts with a small social circle ?

[New Visayan Islands]

Why do so much people not know anyone diagnosed with COVID? I mean, thank the Lord they didn't, but people don't know anyone?

Perhaps many people here are introverts with a small social circle ?

Or the social distancing is working a little too well; coming from a COVID hotspot (my son and I went through a COVID scare ourselves several weeks back) we didn't know anyone in our condo compound that came down with the virus.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Why do so much people not know anyone diagnosed with COVID? I mean, thank the Lord they didn't, but people don't know anyone?

There's someone on this forum (whose name I recognize from years back), but that's not really someone I know.

Nope, don't know anyone. Maybe I should contact old friends, might get a hit there.

How many yourself?

[Salandriagado]

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/06/03/1002650/antibody-drug-tocilizumab-immune-response-covid-19-saves-lives?utm_medium=40digest.7days3.20200604.carousel&utm_source=email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=campaign

It appears a cure is on the horizon

That's not a cure.

[Vassenor]

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/06/03/1002650/antibody-drug-tocilizumab-immune-response-covid-19-saves-lives?utm_medium=40digest.7days3.20200604.carousel&utm_source=email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=campaign

It appears a cure is on the horizon

That's not a cure.

But that gets in the way of people being able to watch live music and sports events.