Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Burning some of his credibility as a medical expert by giving a political opinion.

Anyone regularly involved in politics becomes something of a politician, and doubly so if they spend a lot of time behind a podium. Public speaking itself makes people into politicians.

Disappointed but in no way surprised.

Or maybe he is right? I mean do you have evidence that we must stay completely locked down and can't reopen anything anywhere this summer?

All the coronavirus experts say so, the ones who have high paying jobs and are in more demand than ever right now!

[Nobel Hobos 2]

can someone explain to me why pompeo has a dog in this turf war at all? my head hurts

State deals with foreign affairs, it's not way out of their turf.

The WHO has an annual budget of $4.8 billion, which really isn't much. To rival it though, I think a much bigger budget would be required of the US. A new rival organization would not have established contacts and voluntary co-operation from many other countries ... it would basically have to fund its way to credibility. And if it's not just going to be a copy, I think it would want the ability to mount independent investigations (the Department of Spies er I mean State could probably help).

If Trump is thinking of setting up a rival with the $200 million he's going to save "defunding" the WHO, it will be a pathetic and short-lived thing.

His options are:
Ask Congress for the money (lol)
Scavenge some money from State (budget $52 billion)
Scavenge some money from USAID (budget $27 billion)

So that's my answer. There's more money in State.

[Aureumterra]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/22/dr-anthony-fauci-says-staying-closed-for-too-long-could-cause-irreparable-damage.html

Even Doctor Fauci says keeping lockdowns and other restrictions for too long could cause irreparable damage.

Burning some of his credibility as a medical expert by giving a political opinion.

Anyone regularly involved in politics becomes something of a politician, and doubly so if they spend a lot of time behind a podium. Public speaking itself makes people into politicians.

Disappointed but in no way surprised.

The fact that stating lockdowns can cause irreparable economic damage, something which anyone with a slight sense of economics can tell you, is considered political says more about those politicizing the issue

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Burning some of his credibility as a medical expert by giving a political opinion.

Anyone regularly involved in politics becomes something of a politician, and doubly so if they spend a lot of time behind a podium. Public speaking itself makes people into politicians.

Disappointed but in no way surprised.

Or maybe he is right? I mean do you have evidence that we must stay completely locked down and can't reopen anything anywhere this summer?

I'm not going to argue with him, but I'm also not going to take him as an authority on what's good for the economy. He knows no more about that, than you or I do. He's out of field.

He should never have gotten suckered into answering that question, toeing the White House line just harms his credibility.

I'd rather he keeps his credibility so US people continue to follow his medical advice.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Burning some of his credibility as a medical expert by giving a political opinion.

Anyone regularly involved in politics becomes something of a politician, and doubly so if they spend a lot of time behind a podium. Public speaking itself makes people into politicians.

Disappointed but in no way surprised.

The fact that stating lockdowns can cause irreparable economic damage, something which anyone with a slight sense of economics can tell you, is considered political says more about those politicizing the issue

It comes off as condescending when you’re making a genuine case for reopening talking about unemployment and economic loss, yet people keep repeating the "listen to the experts, they know what’s best for you." when clearly they can’t know what’s best for me if it’s causing me to lose my source of income

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Burning some of his credibility as a medical expert by giving a political opinion.

Anyone regularly involved in politics becomes something of a politician, and doubly so if they spend a lot of time behind a podium. Public speaking itself makes people into politicians.

Disappointed but in no way surprised.

The fact that stating lockdowns can cause irreparable economic damage, something which anyone with a slight sense of economics can tell you, is considered political says more about those politicizing the issue

There is POLITICAL disagreement on how long lockdowns should last. Dr. Fauci was giving a POLITICAL opinion.

That it might have been a political opinion ON ECONOMICS is neither here nor there.

[Rojava Free State]

BTW great news San Lumen, Cuomo is now allowing gatherings of 10 people in your state again.

[Rojava Free State]

"Government said groups of 10 can hang."

A message I got from my friend Tyler, who does not appear to know who the governor is, or that the state and federal government are different. Just "government sez" like the government is one entity.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Burning some of his credibility as a medical expert by giving a political opinion.

Anyone regularly involved in politics becomes something of a politician, and doubly so if they spend a lot of time behind a podium. Public speaking itself makes people into politicians.

Disappointed but in no way surprised.

Or maybe he is right? I mean do you have evidence that we must stay completely locked down and can't reopen anything anywhere this summer?

You're doing that San Lumen thing now. Putting the extreme opposite of your own view as though that's what I'm saying. I've never said that before and I'm not saying that now.

He said the U.S. had to institute severe measures because Covid-19 cases were exploding then. “But now is the time, depending upon where you are and what your situation is, to begin to seriously look at reopening the economy, reopening the country to try to get back to some degree of normal.”

However, Fauci also cautioned states against reducing social distancing measures too quickly, adding they must take “very significant precautions.”

“In general, I think most of the country is doing it in a prudent way,” he said. “There are obviously some situations where people might be jumping over that. I just say please proceed with caution if you’re going to do that.”

Fauci has been criticized in recent days by Republicans, including U.S. lawmakers Rand Paul and Andy Biggs, for making comments appearing to advocate for keeping some businesses closed longer.

Just last week, Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned members of Congress that the United States could face even more “suffering and death” from the coronavirus if some states rush to reopen businesses too early.

It could also hinder states “on the road to try to get back to an economic recovery,” he testified at a hearing before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions on May 12. “It would almost turn the clock back rather than going forward. That is my major concern.”

That's from the article San Lumen linked.

Funny how those in favor of lifting restrictions, now find dr. Fauci to be an authority on what's good for the economy. They didn't put a lot of weight on his words when he was talking about what's good for people's health ... ie the one subject on which he's a genuine authority.

Maybe I shouldn't have said "burning his reputation". It's more like trading it. His reputation goes down with the Save Lives people, but it goes up with the Save Jobs people.

[Kannap]

"Government said groups of 10 can hang."

A message I got from my friend Tyler, who does not appear to know who the governor is, or that the state and federal government are different. Just "government sez" like the government is one entity.

"Government said groups of 10 can hang" just sounds like we're bringing back the gallows.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

"Government said groups of 10 can hang."

A message I got from my friend Tyler, who does not appear to know who the governor is, or that the state and federal government are different. Just "government sez" like the government is one entity.

"Government said groups of 10 can hang" just sounds like we're bringing back the gallows.

I'm impressed the governor went with the decimal system. "Government sez groups of a dozen can hang" would be so much more medieval!

[San Lumen]

BTW great news San Lumen, Cuomo is now allowing gatherings of 10 people in your state again.

Wonderful

[Greed and Death]

BTW great news San Lumen, Cuomo is now allowing gatherings of 10 people in your state again.

Wonderful

So for happy hour we figure me and 8 other people are coming by your place.

[Kannap]

"Government said groups of 10 can hang" just sounds like we're bringing back the gallows.

I'm impressed the governor went with the decimal system. "Government sez groups of a dozen can hang" would be so much more medieval!

Would be more impressive if he used the Dewey Decimal System.

"Government says groups of 909.07 can hang"

[San Lumen]

Wonderful

So for happy hour we figure me and 8 other people are coming by your place.

Hey why not?

[Rojava Free State]

Wonderful

So for happy hour we figure me and 8 other people are coming by your place.

Only if I get to have the Chuck and Dylar come to mine.

[Rojava Free State]

GuBeRmEnT sEz honestly sounds like something a die hard Trumpster would begin a sentence with.

The sheer ignorance in this sentence could make a dead motherfucker scream.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I'm impressed the governor went with the decimal system. "Government sez groups of a dozen can hang" would be so much more medieval!

Would be more impressive if he used the Dewey Decimal System.

"Government says groups of 909.07 can hang"

0.07 of a person is ... a hand? Quite Gothic.

[Rojava Free State]

Would be more impressive if he used the Dewey Decimal System.

"Government says groups of 909.07 can hang"

0.07 of a person is ... a hand? Quite Gothic.

"Groups of 9 and two fifths can hang."

-The CEO of Guberment.

[San Lumen]

So for happy hour we figure me and 8 other people are coming by your place.

Only if I get to have the Chuck and Dylar come to mine.

works for me

[Shrillland]

We're still about two weeks away from allowing groups of 10, and groups of 50 won't be allowed until early July.

[Farnhamia]

We're still about two weeks away from allowing groups of 10, and groups of 50 won't be allowed until early July.

Just in time for a yuuuuge Fourth of July party, thousands of people cheering together as President Trump squirts bleach on the last few corona viruses, dutifully rounded up by the Jared Kushner Squad in time for the ceremony. Then the entire United States Army will parade down Pennsylvania Avenue in a grand review, days of marching, marching, Sousa, show tunes, confetti ... *wipes a tear from her eye* It'll be ... *waving a hand* I can't speak ...

[Dylar]

So for happy hour we figure me and 8 other people are coming by your place.

Only if I get to have the Chuck and Dylar come to mine.

Sure. I'm up for a 4 hour drive anyway.

[Kannap]

We're still about two weeks away from allowing groups of 10, and groups of 50 won't be allowed until early July.

Just in time for a yuuuuge Fourth of July party, thousands of people cheering together as President Trump squirts bleach on the last few corona viruses, dutifully rounded up by the Jared Kushner Squad in time for the ceremony. Then the entire United States Army will parade down Pennsylvania Avenue in a grand review, days of marching, marching, Sousa, show tunes, confetti ... *wipes a tear from her eye* It'll be ... *waving a hand* I can't speak ...

Instructions unclear, I accidentally ended up in Scranton, Pennsylvania

[Shrillland]

We're still about two weeks away from allowing groups of 10, and groups of 50 won't be allowed until early July.

Just in time for a yuuuuge Fourth of July party, thousands of people cheering together as President Trump squirts bleach on the last few corona viruses, dutifully rounded up by the Jared Kushner Squad in time for the ceremony. Then the entire United States Army will parade down Pennsylvania Avenue in a grand review, days of marching, marching, Sousa, show tunes, confetti ... *wipes a tear from her eye* It'll be ... *waving a hand* I can't speak ...

And that's just the military parade. Just wait until the Workers' Parade afterwards...no, that's just Illinois. Sorry about that.