Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[-SARS-]

Oh nice. "That was before I did time" gets you out of being the author of some of the crazy ideas we're talking about.

Face it, the whole world is safer if Donald Trump watches Fox And Friends, than if it would be if he read General for his ideas.

Imagines the policy whiplash though. One minute he'd be authorising dogs as an execution method and the next he'd be instituting a UBI.

No, dogs would be banned. IM made a thread arguing that we should ban dogs.

Hopefully we can develop effective antiviral treatments for COVID by then so we can at least lessen the severity of things by the time a vaccine gets here.

A good enough treatment would make a vaccine unnecessary.

Which begs the question. After trillions of dollars of investment why haven't pharmas developed some chemical that kills ANY kind of virus in the bloodstream?

Is there some way that killing viruses in the bloodstream is actually bad? Are there any essential viruses we need to stay healthy?

It is a serious question to the experts here. Why do we need to wait for variations of a know virus to appear, then take a year or more to kill the bastard? Why don't we already have a medicine that just kills viruses?

That's easier said than done because viruses are highly diverse, and many chemicals that have the potential to damage a virus would also damage human cells.

Also, killing all the viruses in your body would make you more vulnerable to bacterial infections because there are viruses that prey on bacteria.

Most viruses are not harmful. People just notice the dangerous ones a lot more than the benign ones.

[Albrenia]

As useless as my own untrained musings might be on the issue, I figure that anything generally destructive enough to kill all viruses of any type would likely have a lot of collateral damage to the person.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

the fact that i had to ask means i'm either blind to the impact of any such pronouncement if trump saw and considered them... or that i didn't see them because there were none to speak of

your saying "such as"

if you have spent any serious amount of time in NSG you would see the crazy shit people advocate for

I know you were founded in April but cmon...

Note: I meant Noebel Hobo, but im shocked(with over a 1,000 posts) you havn't seen any crazy ideas.

I appreciate that you're supporting my point here. Trump should stay off NSG, it would not help him be a good president at all.

It was a joke. But that's OK. My jokes are calibrated for 50% "get" ratio, it just seems right to me. I don't particularly approve those who get the joke, nor look down on those who don't. The "obscure reference" style of humour is not mine. Nor is the "broad" humour that everyone gets. It's just my style. 50%. Deadpan and plausible. To know for sure it's a joke you have to know me quite well, and "get" that it's something I would never say seriously.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how to properly kill a joke.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

A good enough treatment would make a vaccine unnecessary.

Which begs the question. After trillions of dollars of investment why haven't pharmas developed some chemical that kills ANY kind of virus in the bloodstream?

Is there some way that killing viruses in the bloodstream is actually bad? Are there any essential viruses we need to stay healthy?

It is a serious question to the experts here. Why do we need to wait for variations of a know virus to appear, then take a year or more to kill the bastard? Why don't we already have a medicine that just kills viruses?

That's easier said than done because viruses are highly diverse, and many chemicals that have the potential to damage a virus would also damage human cells.

I get that, and I appreciate that you're using my default term "chemical". It's an ideal, something so small it is just one molecule.

Also, killing all the viruses in your body would make you more vulnerable to bacterial infections because there are viruses that prey on bacteria.

Ah. I suspected that. Viruses have been around longer than humans, it does not surprise me to hear they have found a symbiotic role with us.

Could a person survive with all their friendly viruses wiped out, though? To save a human life we are prepared to make the human very sick. And the friendly viruses could later be restored with a simple injection.

Most viruses are not harmful. People just notice the dangerous ones a lot more than the benign ones.

Virus propaganda. Only a brainless virus would believe that!

[Rojava Free State]

Then why ask lol, like you havn't seen crazy ideas on here.

i haven't seen any crazy ideas on all four threads dealing with this virus, or maybe i have and i just forgot

but general in general? yeah, do your worst, for i've seen shit

GVH said last night "we should just reopen everything and smile." I would rather the events of "When Day Breaks" happen than go with his idea.

[Rojava Free State]

As useless as my own untrained musings might be on the issue, I figure that anything generally destructive enough to kill all viruses of any type would likely have a lot of collateral damage to the person.

UVC for example, which trump wants to put in your body through your skin or "in some other way," burning you alive from the inside.

[Diahon]

i haven't seen any crazy ideas on all four threads dealing with this virus, or maybe i have and i just forgot

but general in general? yeah, do your worst, for i've seen shit

GVH said last night "we should just reopen everything and smile." I would rather the events of "When Day Breaks" happen than go with his idea.

oh, vakolicci

i uh completely forgot about him, tbh

[Rojava Free State]

GVH said last night "we should just reopen everything and smile." I would rather the events of "When Day Breaks" happen than go with his idea.

oh, vakolicci

i uh completely forgot about him, tbh

The worst part is he didn't say those exact words here. He said them in a call, so even when he isn't on a keyboard and is instead on his computer, he still believes fully in "the economic resurrection" also known as "the great dying" by everyone else.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Most viruses are not harmful. People just notice the dangerous ones a lot more than the benign ones.

Virus propaganda. Only a brainless virus would believe that!

Virus is a biological trash can.Special organisms without cellular structure are basically classified into this category. In fact, most viruses are harmless.Now there is also a new treatment method using phage

[Nobel Hobos 2]

i haven't seen any crazy ideas on all four threads dealing with this virus, or maybe i have and i just forgot

but general in general? yeah, do your worst, for i've seen shit

GVH said last night "we should just reopen everything and smile." I would rather the events of "When Day Breaks" happen than go with his idea.

It's not the worst thing Trump could do.

He's already turned over moral leadership to the state governors (and then sniped at the Democrat ones) and as I understand American politics there's no going back from that. Once the President says "it's a state matter" he gives up the bully pulpit.

He can say "reopen everything" or he can say "no wait, lock it back down" and nobody Democrat or Republican is going to listen.

Politically the best thing for him now is to get on TV a lot, smile like the Joker, and sing a happy song about Morning in America.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Virus propaganda. Only a brainless virus would believe that!

Virus is a biological trash can.Special organisms without cellular structure are basically classified into this category. In fact, most viruses are harmless.Now there is also a new treatment method using phage

Bacteriophage? That eat bacteria?

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Virus is a biological trash can.Special organisms without cellular structure are basically classified into this category. In fact, most viruses are harmless.Now there is also a new treatment method using phage

Bacteriophage? That eat bacteria?

Yep,for more and more resistant to bacteria.It's also a kind of famous virus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_therapy

[Nobel Hobos 2]

oh, vakolicci

i uh completely forgot about him, tbh

The worst part is he didn't say those exact words here. He said them in a call, so even when he isn't on a keyboard and is instead on his computer, he still believes fully in "the economic resurrection" also known as "the great dying" by everyone else.

Yeah, thanks for the update on what GVH is rolling with now.

If you saw him on a call, could you confirm his claim on the forum that he is fat?

[The Alma Mater]

Why don't we already have a medicine that just kills viruses?

I am guessing most anti-viral agents work by shutting down the cells the virus has infected and is using to replicate itself. That needs to be specifically targeted; because shutting all cells down kills you.

But I am not a virologist, so if -Sars- says something else I will believe it

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Bacteriophage? That eat bacteria?

Yep,for more and more resistant to bacteria.It's also a kind of famous virus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_therapy

Phage therapy or viral phage therapy is the therapeutic use of bacteriophages to treat pathogenic bacterial infections

Well fuck me sideways. I assumed a bacteriophage gobbled up bacteria, and so, must bigger than them. Bigger bacteria.

So I was wrong. Bacteriophages are viruses that attack single cells (bacteria). They're like little pirates.

Still, a virus that attacks bacteria is not a virus that attacks other viruses. That's like pirates fighting each other ... out at sea ... without a ship in sight. How could they do that? WHY would they do that? There's no booty.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Why don't we already have a medicine that just kills viruses?

I am guessing most anti-viral agents work by shutting down the cells the virus has infected and is using to replicate itself. That needs to be specifically targeted; because shutting all cells down kills you.

Annoys the hell out of me. Viruses somehow escape from our otherwise global capacity to kill things by (a) being too small and (b) not actually being alive?

That's fucking cheating. I want to kill those viruses so bad.

But I am not a virologist, so if -Sars- says something else I will believe it

Our resident expert. Though prone to pro-virus propaganda, I guess that's a joke.

[Thepeopl]

Virus propaganda. Only a brainless virus would believe that!

Virus is a biological trash can.Special organisms without cellular structure are basically classified into this category. In fact, most viruses are harmless.Now there is also a new treatment method using phage

https://www.genengnews.com/news/influen ... particles/

[Rojava Free State]

Virus is a biological trash can.Special organisms without cellular structure are basically classified into this category. In fact, most viruses are harmless.Now there is also a new treatment method using phage

https://www.genengnews.com/news/influen ... particles/

We'll use viruses to kill viruses?

[Thepeopl]

https://www.genengnews.com/news/influen ... particles/

We'll use viruses to kill viruses?

Parts of them. To block the "attachment parts" so they can't get attached to a cell and thus not replicate

[The New California Republic]

We were warned that this was bound to happen when lockdown is lifted:

Coronavirus infections are rising in Germany, official data shows, just days after the country eased its lockdown restrictions.

According to the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Germany's reproduction rate - the number of people each confirmed patient infects - is now above 1.

This means the number of infections is now rising in the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52604676

[Ethel mermania]

As useless as my own untrained musings might be on the issue, I figure that anything generally destructive enough to kill all viruses of any type would likely have a lot of collateral damage to the person.

UVC for example, which trump wants to put in your body through your skin or "in some other way," burning you alive from the inside.

https://www.bioworld.com/articles/43471 ... rgency-use

[The Black Forrest]

UVC for example, which trump wants to put in your body through your skin or "in some other way," burning you alive from the inside.

https://www.bioworld.com/articles/43471 ... rgency-use

Hmmmm? Trump probably has money in that company. He has shown he will use the position of POTUS to pimp his investments.

[Neutraligon]

We were warned that this was bound to happen when lockdown is lifted:

Coronavirus infections are rising in Germany, official data shows, just days after the country eased its lockdown restrictions.

According to the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Germany's reproduction rate - the number of people each confirmed patient infects - is now above 1.

This means the number of infections is now rising in the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52604676

That is interesting since it normally takes about a week for people to show symptoms.

[Ethel mermania]

https://www.bioworld.com/articles/43471 ... rgency-use

Hmmmm? Trump probably has money in that company. He has shown he will use the position of POTUS to pimp his investments.

Yeah, that must be it. Only possible reason.

[The Black Forrest]

Hmmmm? Trump probably has money in that company. He has shown he will use the position of POTUS to pimp his investments.

Yeah, that must be it. Only possible reason.

Have you taken your chloroquine yet? I did mention it was the only possible reason....oh wait....I didn’t.

Even your article isn’t calling it a solution. Potentially? sure......