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Have you or anyone in your vincinity been affected by COVID-19?

I don't know anyone who has been diagnosed with COVID-19
300
44%
I know someone was diagnosed with COVID-19
159
23%
Someone very close to me was diagnosed with COVID-19
42
6%
I know someone who was hospitalized with COVID-19
62
9%
Someone very close to me was hospitalized with COVID-19
30
4%
I was diagnosed with COVID-19
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I was hospitalized with COVID-19
9
1%
I don't know/unsure/other
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:44 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I’m sure he has. To think you know more about the industry then him is quite arrogant on your part

Disney decided to put their recording of Hamilton on Disney+ rather than release it in cinemas. Disney, a company which has been in the industry for longer than Andrew Lloyd Webber has been alive, thinks there's more money in subscription streaming services.

They paid 75 million for the rights to stream Hamilton. And as folks ditch cable Disney is looking to
Raise revenue via the interweb. That is an interesting conversation in it's own right.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:47 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:IIRC it was somewhere around Chelsea, which admittedly doesn’t say much.

Far west use to be reasonable, and there is public housing, and rent controlled housing in Chelsea.

If its market rate (before the pandemic) its 3,000 a month or so for a nice 2 bedroom apt.

Public or rent controlled, it's much less

3k for a two bedroom? Shit I could get a nice house here for that. Hell a 2 bedroom here is about 900 to 1k with a three bedroom being close to 1.5k
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:50 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Disney decided to put their recording of Hamilton on Disney+ rather than release it in cinemas. Disney, a company which has been in the industry for longer than Andrew Lloyd Webber has been alive, thinks there's more money in subscription streaming services.

They paid 75 million for the rights to stream Hamilton. And as folks ditch cable Disney is looking to
Raise revenue via the interweb. That is an interesting conversation in it's own right.

Disney is probably thinking that it wants to transition from cable to internet ASAP; like you said, people are already doing away with cable. Why stick with cable when your household only watches so many channels anyway, right?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:55 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Far west use to be reasonable, and there is public housing, and rent controlled housing in Chelsea.

If its market rate (before the pandemic) its 3,000 a month or so for a nice 2 bedroom apt.

Public or rent controlled, it's much less

3k for a two bedroom? Shit I could get a nice house here for that. Hell a 2 bedroom here is about 900 to 1k with a three bedroom being close to 1.5k

Heh, upper east or west side would be 1.5k more. Chelsea use to be reasonably priced. ( for Manhattan anyway)
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:03 am

New Visayan Islands wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:They paid 75 million for the rights to stream Hamilton. And as folks ditch cable Disney is looking to
Raise revenue via the interweb. That is an interesting conversation in it's own right.

Disney is probably thinking that it wants to transition from cable to internet ASAP; like you said, people are already doing away with cable. Why stick with cable when your household only watches so many channels anyway, right?


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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:04 am

Greed and Death wrote:
New Visayan Islands wrote:Disney is probably thinking that it wants to transition from cable to internet ASAP; like you said, people are already doing away with cable. Why stick with cable when your household only watches so many channels anyway, right?


Mortgage on my 6 bedroom is 1500 a month.

Thats awesome

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:09 am

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Greed and Death wrote:
Mortgage on my 6 bedroom is 1500 a month.

Thats awesome

One word.
"Texas"
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:13 am

Greed and Death wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Thats awesome

One word.
"Texas"

Or two:

“The south”
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UK, US, Canada accuse Russia of hacking virus vaccine trials

So are we going to read how the Associated Press is a Russophobic hackapalooza soon?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:38 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Lumen is not the topic of the thread, friends.


You can see how that happens though. The plight of live theatre is a small part of the Coronavirus topic, but it's had grossly more coverage than any other industry, like a hundred times more by market size. And it's just one poster who keeps bringing it back up.

What I keep bringing up is the return of K-12 schooling. Or at least K-6 schooling. But it's a politically divisive thing, as Trump wants it and for once in his life is right, but a broad coalition of people motivated by Trump Must Be Wrong and by common understanding that for most diseases, schools are a terrible way of spreading disease, are very much against it.

There are a million K-12 teachers in the US. There are about 80,000 live theatre people. As an industry, schooling is more than ten times bigger. But for some reason we talk endlessly about live shows and bloody Broadway ...

I agree completely with you but theatre also contributes a tremendous amount to the economy.

Also to tell college students to pay 50000 dollars for online courses at Harvard or any other university is flat out insane. It’s not worth the expense

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:08 am

Georgia governor overrides all local mask orders in the state

~The Coronavirus came down to Georgia...~
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:18 am

Chinese executives get 'pre-test' injections in vaccine race

And then a few days later all communications with the pharmaceutical abruptly shuts down and the area becomes a PLA convention.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:19 am

Over the last 24 hours Ireland has decided to delay moving to the next phase of our re-opening, meaning that thousands of "wet pubs", pubs which do not serve food and thus are not currently open under the rules that allow restaurants to open, were yesterday preparing to open on Monday and now are looking at not being able to open until August at the earliest.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:42 am

San Lumen wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
You can see how that happens though. The plight of live theatre is a small part of the Coronavirus topic, but it's had grossly more coverage than any other industry, like a hundred times more by market size. And it's just one poster who keeps bringing it back up.

What I keep bringing up is the return of K-12 schooling. Or at least K-6 schooling. But it's a politically divisive thing, as Trump wants it and for once in his life is right, but a broad coalition of people motivated by Trump Must Be Wrong and by common understanding that for most diseases, schools are a terrible way of spreading disease, are very much against it.

There are a million K-12 teachers in the US. There are about 80,000 live theatre people. As an industry, schooling is more than ten times bigger. But for some reason we talk endlessly about live shows and bloody Broadway ...

I agree completely with you but theatre also contributes a tremendous amount to the economy.

Also to tell college students to pay 50000 dollars for online courses at Harvard or any other university is flat out insane. It’s not worth the expense


People don't really pay $50,000 a year to be educated by Harvard. They pay that amount of money to meet the kind of people who go to Harvard and for the Harvard name on the bit of paper at the end.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:44 am

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San Lumen wrote:I agree completely with you but theatre also contributes a tremendous amount to the economy.

Also to tell college students to pay 50000 dollars for online courses at Harvard or any other university is flat out insane. It’s not worth the expense


People don't really pay $50,000 a year to be educated by Harvard. They pay that amount of money to meet the kind of people who go to Harvard and for the Harvard name on the bit of paper at the end.


Exactly. It’s about the connections and the name on your sheet. Depending on the course of study; the education is good.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:04 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I agree completely with you but theatre also contributes a tremendous amount to the economy.

Also to tell college students to pay 50000 dollars for online courses at Harvard or any other university is flat out insane. It’s not worth the expense


People don't really pay $50,000 a year to be educated by Harvard. They pay that amount of money to meet the kind of people who go to Harvard and for the Harvard name on the bit of paper at the end.


The coursework at harvard is more rigorous than other schools.

College course loads vary quite a bit in the US. When i was in school my load was much heavier than similar folks in state institutions. (Note: I did not graduate from harvard).
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Postby No State Here » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:42 am

Gormwood wrote:UK, US, Canada accuse Russia of hacking virus vaccine trials

So are we going to read how the Associated Press is a Russophobic hackapalooza soon?

Gormwood wrote:Georgia governor overrides all local mask orders in the state

~The Coronavirus came down to Georgia...~

Gormwood wrote:Chinese executives get 'pre-test' injections in vaccine race

And then a few days later all communications with the pharmaceutical abruptly shuts down and the area becomes a PLA convention.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:43 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I agree completely with you but theatre also contributes a tremendous amount to the economy.

Also to tell college students to pay 50000 dollars for online courses at Harvard or any other university is flat out insane. It’s not worth the expense


People don't really pay $50,000 a year to be educated by Harvard. They pay that amount of money to meet the kind of people who go to Harvard and for the Harvard name on the bit of paper at the end.

*Their rich parents pay that amount of money
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No State Here wrote:
Gormwood wrote:UK, US, Canada accuse Russia of hacking virus vaccine trials

So are we going to read how the Associated Press is a Russophobic hackapalooza soon?

Gormwood wrote:Georgia governor overrides all local mask orders in the state

~The Coronavirus came down to Georgia...~

Gormwood wrote:Chinese executives get 'pre-test' injections in vaccine race

And then a few days later all communications with the pharmaceutical abruptly shuts down and the area becomes a PLA convention.

You good mate?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:49 am

Ifreann wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
People don't really pay $50,000 a year to be educated by Harvard. They pay that amount of money to meet the kind of people who go to Harvard and for the Harvard name on the bit of paper at the end.

*Their rich parents pay that amount of money


Unless the family makes less than 65k a year. Then its free.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:04 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:*Their rich parents pay that amount of money


Unless the family makes less than 65k a year. Then its free.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:09 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Unless the family makes less than 65k a year. Then its free.

Brb going to get a free education


You gotta be smart enough to get into Harvard as well. Sorry Therm... :P
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:22 pm

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I’m sure he has. To think you know more about the industry then him is quite arrogant on your part

Disney decided to put their recording of Hamilton on Disney+ rather than release it in cinemas. Disney, a company which has been in the industry for longer than Andrew Lloyd Webber has been alive, thinks there's more money in subscription streaming services.


Honestly movie theaters are seriously overpriced and not a particularly special experience. I'm surprised they were still around before COVID. It's much more comfortable - and cheaper - to watch movies in the comfort of my bed.

I unironically hope movie theaters never come back after COVID but unfortunately they will.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:26 pm

Kannap wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Disney decided to put their recording of Hamilton on Disney+ rather than release it in cinemas. Disney, a company which has been in the industry for longer than Andrew Lloyd Webber has been alive, thinks there's more money in subscription streaming services.


Honestly movie theaters are seriously overpriced and not a particularly special experience. I'm surprised they were still around before COVID. It's much more comfortable - and cheaper - to watch movies in the comfort of my bed.

I unironically hope movie theaters never come back after COVID but unfortunately they will.

It's the major chains that are wallet gougers. Local theaters might get movies much later but you don't have to mortgage a house for admission and snacks.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:30 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Honestly movie theaters are seriously overpriced and not a particularly special experience. I'm surprised they were still around before COVID. It's much more comfortable - and cheaper - to watch movies in the comfort of my bed.

I unironically hope movie theaters never come back after COVID but unfortunately they will.

It's the major chains that are wallet gougers. Local theaters might get movies much later but you don't have to mortgage a house for admission and snacks.


Problem is there aren't really local theaters many places anymore. My hometown has one but beyond that, anywhere else I've lived have only had the major chains.
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