Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[San Lumen]

I know and voted for people who implemented those changes

No. That’s a nice lie for people to fell better about themselves by doing the bare minimum. Every positive change is built on people who fought, suffered, and sometimes died for that change. Voting is important but if you think that’s where change comes from then your living in a fantasy.

How is a lie?

[Valrifell]

No. That’s a nice lie for people to fell better about themselves by doing the bare minimum. Every positive change is built on people who fought, suffered, and sometimes died for that change. Voting is important but if you think that’s where change comes from then your living in a fantasy.

How is a lie?

Because black people did not vote away Jim Crow or poll taxes. They got angry, several people died, they protested, rioted at times, and made so much a nuisance of themselves that the Federal government had to do something.

[Liriena]

A couple interesting predictions from the IMF.

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So they predict this recession to end within a year?

That's remarkably optimistic of them.

[Kowani]

A couple interesting predictions from the IMF.

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Is that a V-shaped recovery I see? Doubt

[Estanglia]

Unlikely, actually.

What is the civil rights movement, lgbt rights movement, reconstruction? All those things happened because people voted for those who wanted change

Those weren't as simple as "someone ran for it".

A lot of things had to happen for those to start. Reconstruction couldn't have happened if the South won and became fully independent. The civil rights and LGBT rights movements both had instances of major violence and death, and even now still aren't totally over (see the BLM debate and the arguments over LGBT rights). Many things had to occur first for there to be enough political will that people could run on a platform of changing things for the better and win. Things that I don't believe have happened for the changes we're talking about (unless this pandemic is merely the beginning of such things happening).

[Cisairse]

Unlikely, actually.

What is the civil rights movement, lgbt rights movement, reconstruction? All those things happened because people voted for those who wanted change

None of those involved solving all of our problems, in fact most of those did literally nothing

Reconstruction only happened because we slaughtered millions of Americans

Honestly the idea that civil rights or lgbt rights or anything like that came about because of voting is insane

[San Lumen]

What is the civil rights movement, lgbt rights movement, reconstruction? All those things happened because people voted for those who wanted change

None of those involved solving all of our problems, in fact most of those did literally nothing

Reconstruction only happened because we slaughtered millions of Americans

Honestly the idea that civil rights or lgbt rights or anything like that came about because of voting is insane

Did literally nothing? Are you kidding me?

[Cisairse]

None of those involved solving all of our problems, in fact most of those did literally nothing

Reconstruction only happened because we slaughtered millions of Americans

Honestly the idea that civil rights or lgbt rights or anything like that came about because of voting is insane

Did literally nothing? Are you kidding me?

I am not.

[San Lumen]

Did literally nothing? Are you kidding me?

I am not.

Then you clearly never learned history

[Cisairse]

I am not.

Then you clearly never learned history

I hope to god your history classes didn't teach you that MLK won by voting

[San Lumen]

Then you clearly never learned history

I hope to god your history classes didn't teach you that MLK won by voting

No they didn’t but they didn’t teach us that the civil rights movement did nothing which you think it did

[Cisairse]

I hope to god your history classes didn't teach you that MLK won by voting

No they didn’t but they didn’t teach us that the civil rights movement did nothing which you think it did

The civil rights movement achieved nothing through voting, correct.

[Genivaria]

I am not.

Then you clearly never learned history

Or rather you learned History at Whitewash High School.
The civil rights act was not enacted because of citizens voting but of angry citizens marching in the streets.

[Rojava Free State]

I know and voted for people who implemented those changes

No. That’s a nice lie for people to fell better about themselves by doing the bare minimum. Every positive change is built on people who fought, suffered, and sometimes died for that change. Voting is important but if you think that’s where change comes from then your living in a fantasy.

Btw half of changes that are voted for aren't even changes. People voted for Obama cause they wanted change, and instead they got black George Bush, but without the entertainment and humor.

[Asle Leopolka]

A new study shows virus immunity in recovered patients may be gone in months.

To break it down, the study looked at healthcare workers and patients from Guy's and St. Thomas’ National Health Service Foundation Trust in London. They found that the antibody count that attacks and destroys the virus quickly declines after peaking several weeks after someone from that facility exhibited symptoms. 60% of patients had a "potent" antibody response at the peak of their fight with COVID-19. However, after two months, that drops significantly to just 16.7% and in some cases, the antibody response to the virus was undetectable.

More will likely come out, but this is not a good sign. That said, the study could help develop a more effective vaccine to ensure that antibodies remain longer in the body though developing a vaccine that you'll need once may seem rather more difficult: it may become like the flu shot. Suffice to say, wear a mask, and don't be careless: we shouldn't let our guard down just yet.

Not surprised; I've been saying for months that this thing is gonna be like the flu. It mutates insanely fast and travels very aggressively, so of course it only takes a few months for the immunity to wear off.

[Cisairse]

A new study shows virus immunity in recovered patients may be gone in months.

To break it down, the study looked at healthcare workers and patients from Guy's and St. Thomas’ National Health Service Foundation Trust in London. They found that the antibody count that attacks and destroys the virus quickly declines after peaking several weeks after someone from that facility exhibited symptoms. 60% of patients had a "potent" antibody response at the peak of their fight with COVID-19. However, after two months, that drops significantly to just 16.7% and in some cases, the antibody response to the virus was undetectable.

More will likely come out, but this is not a good sign. That said, the study could help develop a more effective vaccine to ensure that antibodies remain longer in the body though developing a vaccine that you'll need once may seem rather more difficult: it may become like the flu shot. Suffice to say, wear a mask, and don't be careless: we shouldn't let our guard down just yet.

Considering how fucking long it is taking for me to get tested for antibodies this might as well mean nobody is ever immune

[Rojava Free State]

This is definitely gonna change the world if annual covid injections need to be a thing indefinitely.

[Fartsniffage]

This is definitely gonna change the world if annual covid injections need to be a thing indefinitely.

Why? Just pop into your local pharmacy and get the jab. Takes minutes.

[Farnhamia]

This is definitely gonna change the world if annual covid injections need to be a thing indefinitely.

Why? Just pop into your local pharmacy and get the jab. Takes minutes.

This is when chem trails come in handy.

[Estanglia]

This is definitely gonna change the world if annual covid injections need to be a thing indefinitely.

I don't know how much having to get an annual COVID injection will change things, particularly if it's included in/with a flu jab (I think some flus that have caused past epidemics/pandemics are covered by a flu jab). I'd guess there'd be increased pressure for universal healthcare, and increased rate of deaths in countries with neither universal healthcare nor money to provide the jab.

[Rojava Free State]

This is definitely gonna change the world if annual covid injections need to be a thing indefinitely.

Why? Just pop into your local pharmacy and get the jab. Takes minutes.

We getting two shots a year instead of one.

[Rojava Free State]

This is definitely gonna change the world if annual covid injections need to be a thing indefinitely.

I don't know how much having to get an annual COVID injection will change things, particularly if it's included in/with a flu jab (I think some flus that have caused past epidemics/pandemics are covered by a flu jab). I'd guess there'd be increased pressure for universal healthcare, and increased rate of deaths in countries with neither universal healthcare nor money to provide the jab.

Can they do that? Use one vaccine for both the flu and covid?

[Fartsniffage]

Why? Just pop into your local pharmacy and get the jab. Takes minutes.

We getting two shots a year instead of one.

You have 2 arms. Get both at the same time.

[Rojava Free State]

We getting two shots a year instead of one.

You have 2 arms. Get both at the same time.

Doesn't sound fun.

[Fartsniffage]

I don't know how much having to get an annual COVID injection will change things, particularly if it's included in/with a flu jab (I think some flus that have caused past epidemics/pandemics are covered by a flu jab). I'd guess there'd be increased pressure for universal healthcare, and increased rate of deaths in countries with neither universal healthcare nor money to provide the jab.

Can they do that? Use one vaccine for both the flu and covid?

MMR is a thing. So maybe.