Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[Andsed]

I don't get how exactly they can't make money while following social distancing. Just admit fewer people and have them wear maks. Like most businesses are doing.

Tickets would be stupidly expensive. I've already ran trough the maths

Okay? Is that it? Because I am not seeing much of an issue here other than the fact some people might not be able to go to theaters.

[Kannap]

Pot meet kettle. Hell most working class joes don’t give a flying fuck about theater, so technically wanting to keep the theaters open while the workers are dying/getting shafted makes you the elitist and arrogant one

Did I ever say open them? No. I said they can’t make money with social distancing hence why most will likely not reopen until early next year

Then why have we even been arguing this whole time if you don't want to open them? Social distancing was a compromise for them being open, keeping them closed is even safer. Glad we agree.

[San Lumen]

Tickets would be stupidly expensive. I've already ran trough the maths

Okay? Is that it? Because I am not seeing much of an issue here other than the fact some people might not be able to go to theaters.

Theatre, opera and live music and dance should be something only the wealthy can enjoy?

[Post War America]

Okay? Is that it? Because I am not seeing much of an issue here other than the fact some people might not be able to go to theaters.

Theatre, opera and live music and dance should be something only the wealthy can enjoy?

It pretty much already is.

[Andsed]

Okay? Is that it? Because I am not seeing much of an issue here other than the fact some people might not be able to go to theaters.

Theatre, opera and live music should be something only the wealthy can enjoy?

It is better than no one being able to attend. If these theaters are going to reopen then they need to social distance. It is the only way they can reopen and still be safe.

[Trollgaard]

Okay? Is that it? Because I am not seeing much of an issue here other than the fact some people might not be able to go to theaters.

Theatre, opera and live music and dance should be something only the wealthy can enjoy?

Of course not, but for the next yearish? Maybe. Half the number of seats available and maybe some theater/opera/concerts/etc can reopen. Have them outside in parks or something.

If there are no concerts/etc for a year it would suck, but people will survive. Its not like an opera singer is going to forget how to sing if they take a year off.

[Kannap]

Okay? Is that it? Because I am not seeing much of an issue here other than the fact some people might not be able to go to theaters.

Theatre, opera and live music should be something only the wealthy can enjoy?

See, you're not going to like my answer Lumen, because my answer is no, all people should be able to enjoy them. That being said, all people aren't already allowed to enjoy them because a lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and can't afford even just the $50 or $100 to see a concert or performance as it is.

We can talk all day about how such performance should be available for everybody but I don't want to distress you even more than you're already distressed, I'm worried about your health and I'm afraid you wouldn't be able to handle any more stress.

[Kannap]

Theatre, opera and live music and dance should be something only the wealthy can enjoy?

Of course not, but for the next yearish? Maybe. Half the number of seats available and maybe some theater/opera/concerts/etc can reopen. Have them outside in parks or something.

If there are no concerts/etc for a year it would suck, but people will survive. Its not like an opera singer is going to forget how to sing if they take a year off.

And as has been suggesting the past: Drive-ins, not just for movies but for concerts as well.

[San Lumen]

Theatre, opera and live music should be something only the wealthy can enjoy?

It is better than no one being able to attend. If these theaters are going to reopen then they need to social distance. It is the only way they can reopen and still be safe.

They won’t make money. The tickets would be so expensive very few could afford it

[Andsed]

It is better than no one being able to attend. If these theaters are going to reopen then they need to social distance. It is the only way they can reopen and still be safe.

They won’t make money. The tickets would be so expensive very few could afford it

Okay? So do you want them to reopen without restrictions? Because that would be a bad idea Lumen.

[San Lumen]

They won’t make money. The tickets would be so expensive very few could afford it

Okay? So do you want them to reopen without restrictions? Because that would be a bad idea Lumen.

I’d rather they reopen when they can make money and not think about a concept that will bankrupt them. Hopefully broadway survives the pandemic and many haven’t left the industry got good. The economic blow to the city would be beyond ruinous

[Post War America]

It is better than no one being able to attend. If these theaters are going to reopen then they need to social distance. It is the only way they can reopen and still be safe.

They won’t make money. The tickets would be so expensive very few could afford it

Perhaps it might be best if it were underwritten by the state or if we do away with the notion that something should only exist if it can turn a profit.

[Andsed]

Okay? So do you want them to reopen without restrictions? Because that would be a bad idea Lumen.

I’d rather they reopen when they can make money and not think about a concept that will bankrupt them. Hopefully broadway survives the pandemic. The economic blow to the city would be beyond ruinous

Well that is not going to be the case for quite some time. I think it much better they open now with restrictions and begin adapting and making money, then staying closed and getting no businesses.

[San Lumen]

I’d rather they reopen when they can make money and not think about a concept that will bankrupt them. Hopefully broadway survives the pandemic. The economic blow to the city would be beyond ruinous

Well that is not going to be the case for quite some time. I think it much better they open now with restrictions and begin adapting and making money, then staying closed and getting no businesses.

Have you not been listening this whole time! No theatre will make a profit with social distancing.

[Trollgaard]

Well that is not going to be the case for quite some time. I think it much better they open now with restrictions and begin adapting and making money, then staying closed and getting no businesses.

Have you not been listening this whole time! No theatre will make a profit with social distancing.

Perhaps they should find patrons like in olden days to help cover the costs?

[Andsed]

Well that is not going to be the case for quite some time. I think it much better they open now with restrictions and begin adapting and making money, then staying closed and getting no businesses.

Have you not been listening this whole time! No theatre will make a profit with social distancing.

if that is true(which I doubt) no matter what they are going to be losing money. Better for them to get some businesses rather than none. And honestly I doubt they won't be able to make money. Their are plenty of ways for them to adapt and survive. Drive ins, lowering some salary's, putting on smaller performances with cheaper equipment, do drive ins, stream online. Plenty of ways to make money.

[San Lumen]

Have you not been listening this whole time! No theatre will make a profit with social distancing.

if that is true(which I doubt) no matter what they are going to be losing money. Better for them to get some businesses rather than none. And honestly I doubt they won't be able to make money. Their are plenty of ways for them to adapt and survive. Drive ins, lowering some salary's, putting on smaller performances with cheaper equipment, do drive ins, stream online. Plenty of ways to make money.

If it was that simple they’d do it

[Kannap]

Well that is not going to be the case for quite some time. I think it much better they open now with restrictions and begin adapting and making money, then staying closed and getting no businesses.

Have you not been listening this whole time! No theatre will make a profit with social distancing.

No theatre will make a profit remaining closed either.

[Thermodolia]

if that is true(which I doubt) no matter what they are going to be losing money. Better for them to get some businesses rather than none. And honestly I doubt they won't be able to make money. Their are plenty of ways for them to adapt and survive. Drive ins, lowering some salary's, putting on smaller performances with cheaper equipment, do drive ins, stream online. Plenty of ways to make money.

If it was that simple they’d do it

It is that simple. Other businesses are doing it. There’s no reason why they can’t. Unless they want everything to stay the same.

[Thermodolia]

Anyway if I didn’t already mention it Black Friday is officially dead. That sound you hear is the sound of Service workers rejoicing

[Kannap]

if that is true(which I doubt) no matter what they are going to be losing money. Better for them to get some businesses rather than none. And honestly I doubt they won't be able to make money. Their are plenty of ways for them to adapt and survive. Drive ins, lowering some salary's, putting on smaller performances with cheaper equipment, do drive ins, stream online. Plenty of ways to make money.

If it was that simple they’d do it

If it was that simple they wouldn't. Executives are greedy regardless of the industry and they'd rather die before lowering their salaries to save their businesses.

For example, I work in a warehouse and I make $13.75 an hour, which is on the lower end of what people in here make since I'm still relatively new. The CEO of my company makes over $20 million a year as his salary and various other executive officers make between $10 to $18 million a year. Our CEO and CFO had the audacity this year to say that we - the warehouse workers - are making too much money.

That's good ol' corporate greed for you, and it sounds like its present in the theatre industry too.

[Kannap]

Anyway if I didn’t already mention it Black Friday is officially dead. That sound you hear is the sound of Service workers rejoicing

Good riddance really, Black Friday is a menace to society.

[Andsed]

Anyway if I didn’t already mention it Black Friday is officially dead. That sound you hear is the sound of Service workers rejoicing

And nothing of value was lost.

If it was that simple they’d do it

If it was that simple they wouldn't. Executives are greedy regardless of the industry and they'd rather die before lowering their salaries to save their businesses.

For example, I work in a warehouse and I make $13.75 an hour, which is on the lower end of what people in here make since I'm still relatively new. The CEO of my company makes over $20 million a year as his salary and various other executive officers make between $10 to $18 million a year. Our CEO and CFO had the audacity this year to say that we - the warehouse workers - are making too much money.

That's good ol' corporate greed for you, and it sounds like its present in the theatre industry too.

Jesus. The sheer fucking audacity in that statement really boils my piss.

[Thermodolia]

If it was that simple they’d do it

If it was that simple they wouldn't. Executives are greedy regardless of the industry and they'd rather die before lowering their salaries to save their businesses.

For example, I work in a warehouse and I make $13.75 an hour, which is on the lower end of what people in here make since I'm still relatively new. The CEO of my company makes over $20 million a year as his salary and various other executive officers make between $10 to $18 million a year. Our CEO and CFO had the audacity this year to say that we - the warehouse workers - are making too much money.

That's good ol' corporate greed for you, and it sounds like its present in the theatre industry too.

If you took the CEOs salary you could pay over 1 million people $15, or close to 200,000 people $120, or 500 People could get 40k.

Crazy how it be

[Thermodolia]

Anyway if I didn’t already mention it Black Friday is officially dead. That sound you hear is the sound of Service workers rejoicing

Good riddance really, Black Friday is a menace to society.

I worked one Black Friday and I refused to work anymore.