Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

I may be wrong, but I believe in this second wave, cases are rising, but the fatality rate is much lower, right?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

"guyz the warmer wetver will make covid 19 go away there only going going to be 40k dead" said the MAGA cult.

[Galloism]

"guyz the warmer wetver will make covid 19 go away there only going going to be 40k dead" said the MAGA cult.

Actually, this is kind of great news.

If the number of infections is actually 10x higher than reported, that also means the percentage of hospitalization/death is 10x lower.

Not that we don't still need to do stuff, but these results are encouraging in the march toward herd immunity.

[Post War America]

It should remain a bar in my view. No reason to convert it

Oh I agree. They must have tourists, who would still come if it was a museum, but if I'm going to pay to get in I'd like the museum experience AND a cold beer. Maybe even a chance to pick up!

I wonder if renovating it was really a good idea. Tourists would prefer the original and being "out of date" is a good thing in that context. Modern beer taps give colder beer, I guess that's a good upgrade.

Maybe both is best, the bar bit to get a cold drink, and the museum bit to establish the historical lineage and prevent the Stonewall from becoming a Bawdyhouse of Theseus.

[San Lumen]

"guyz the warmer wetver will make covid 19 go away there only going going to be 40k dead" said the MAGA cult.

Actually, this is kind of great news.

If the number of infections is actually 10x higher than reported, that also means the percentage of hospitalization/death is 10x lower.

Not that we don't still need to do stuff, but these results are encouraging in the march toward herd immunity.

We still haven’t proven if herd immunity exists though but it is encouraging if it exists

[Zurkerx]

Texas saw an all-time daily high of 5,489 cases as well.

I wonder if this is the strain that affected NJ and NY at the start of the outbreak making its way West, as opposed to the variant that first arrived on the West Coast and was thought to be milder.

That's a good question but regardless, places like Texas, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Arizona, and Georgia that opened up too soon are starting to show why that was a bad idea. Of course, exceptions like California and North Carolina, which remained locked down and have begun to ease, but are showing signs of a resurgence. It's especially concerning that hospitalizations in those States are increasing if I'm not mistaken. It seems in particular, the South to South-West is now experiencing surge, and this is especially among younger Americans who Fauci warns of ‘more and more’ coronavirus complications in young people.

Well we're officially halting our reopening plans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY

While certainly increased testing and the protests have played a part in the increased cases, reopening the State too soon and not taking it seriously as they should have. But it doesn't seem they won't go backwards and go on lockdown, which means if the current measures are in place, infections are probably not going to go down for some time.

[Fartsniffage]

I may be wrong, but I believe in this second wave, cases are rising, but the fatality rate is much lower, right?

The US never got out of the first wave. This is just the first wave getting worse.

[Hel Jursz Danycia]

Turns out it was fake all along.

[Vassenor]

Turns out it was fake all along.

And maybe if you keep telling yourself that it will magically become truth.

[Hel Jursz Danycia]

Turns out it was fake all along.

And maybe if you keep telling yourself that it will magically become truth.

Send me a pic of someone who died from the Kung Flu and I might believe ya

EDIT: Ah. You're a troon.

[Fartsniffage]

And maybe if you keep telling yourself that it will magically become truth.

Send me a pic of someone who died from the Kung Flu and I might believe ya

EDIT: Ah. You're a troon.

A troon?

[Hel Jursz Danycia]

A troon?

In my grandmother's words, a cancer currently afflicting the western world

[Post War America]

Send me a pic of someone who died from the Kung Flu and I might believe ya

EDIT: Ah. You're a troon.

A troon?

Its a slur for Trans people.

[Fartsniffage]

A troon?

Its a slur for Trans people.

Ah. He's one of those.

[Hel Jursz Danycia]

Ah. He's one of those.

She*. Although I know that in your world, men = women and vice-versa 8P

[The Industries2]

A troon?

In my grandmother's words, a cancer currently afflicting the western world

you're grandmother is a transphobe, as are you.

[The Industries2]

And maybe if you keep telling yourself that it will magically become truth.

Send me a pic of someone who died from the Kung Flu and I might believe ya

EDIT: Ah. You're a troon.

1. F*ck you
2. I will gladly oblige, except not with pictures.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/obituaries ... y-n1194396

[Hel Jursz Danycia]

Send me a pic of someone who died from the Kung Flu and I might believe ya

EDIT: Ah. You're a troon.

1. F*ck you
2. I will gladly oblige, except not with pictures.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/obituaries ... y-n1194396

Hah I really got under your skin, didn't I? 8P
I wanna see the corpses though.

[The Industries2]

1. F*ck you
2. I will gladly oblige, except not with pictures.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/obituaries ... y-n1194396

Hah I really got under your skin, didn't I? 8P
I wanna see the corpses though.

you can search them up then. Also f*ck you. Egyél piszkot, transzfóbiát

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

"guyz the warmer wetver will make covid 19 go away there only going going to be 40k dead" said the MAGA cult.

Actually, this is kind of great news.

If the number of infections is actually 10x higher than reported, that also means the percentage of hospitalization/death is 10x lower.

Not that we don't still need to do stuff, but these results are encouraging in the march toward herd immunity.

I don't see how you came to that conclusion, could you elaborate on how ten times higher infections means 10x less death?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Actually, this is kind of great news.

If the number of infections is actually 10x higher than reported, that also means the percentage of hospitalization/death is 10x lower.

Not that we don't still need to do stuff, but these results are encouraging in the march toward herd immunity.

I don't see how you came to that conclusion, could you elaborate on how ten times higher infections means 10x less death?

It has to do with transmission and hospitalization rates. If you check the statistics on CoVID19. There seem to be more people infected but not as many in hospital.

[Salandriagado]

I may be wrong, but I believe in this second wave, cases are rising, but the fatality rate is much lower, right?

We have no idea, and won't have any idea for several weeks yet - deaths cases by some time. A drop in naive fatality rate (deaths today divided by cases today) is generally a bad thing: it means that the disease is spreading faster, and tells you essentially nothing about the actual death rate.

[Galloism]

Actually, this is kind of great news.

If the number of infections is actually 10x higher than reported, that also means the percentage of hospitalization/death is 10x lower.

Not that we don't still need to do stuff, but these results are encouraging in the march toward herd immunity.

I don't see how you came to that conclusion, could you elaborate on how ten times higher infections means 10x less death?

Think about this. We thought there were 2.3 million cases, with X amount of deaths. There's actually 23 million. Total number of deaths (checking google right now) is 124,000. let x equal the death rate as a decimal.

Before, we thought 2,300,000 * x = 124,000

To get the decimal, we divide both sides by 2,300,000.

We then get -

x = 0.054 (rounded), or 5.4%

But hey, it's not 2.3 million. It's 23 million!

23,000,000 * x = 124,000

Divide both sides by 23,000,000...

x = 0.0054 (rounded), or 0.54%

So the death rate went down by 90% because the number of actual cases went up to 10 times.

Make sense?

(It's not quite that simple, some of the people sick now WILL die, they're dying now, and death rate isn't quite that easy to calculate, but the principle is sound - 10x the cases, mostly asymptomatic, means the death rate is 10 times lower)

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I don't see how you came to that conclusion, could you elaborate on how ten times higher infections means 10x less death?

Think about this. We thought there were 2.3 million cases, with X amount of deaths. There's actually 23 million. Total number of deaths (checking google right now) is 124,000. let x equal the death rate as a decimal.

Before, we thought 2,300,000 * x = 124,000

To get the decimal, we divide both sides by 2,300,000.

We then get -

x = 0.054 (rounded), or 5.4%

But hey, it's not 2.3 million. It's 23 million!

23,000,000 * x = 124,000

Divide both sides by 23,000,000...

x = 0.0054 (rounded), or 0.54%

So the death rate went down by 90% because the number of actual cases went up to 10 times.

Make sense?

(It's not quite that simple, some of the people sick now WILL die, they're dying now, and death rate isn't quite that easy to calculate, but the principle is sound - 10x the cases, mostly asymptomatic, means the death rate is 10 times lower)

That is a actually great point. Thank you.

Still kind of scary seeing how far COVID-19 spread.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

After the spike of the last two weeks, seems like AR is leveling off and reducing transmission rates. From 1.14 last week, we’re down to 1.06 and decreasing. I hope the downtrend continues.