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by Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:39 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Farnhamia » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:40 pm
by Estanglia » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:42 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Estanglia wrote:
I don't know how much having to get an annual COVID injection will change things, particularly if it's included in/with a flu jab (I think some flus that have caused past epidemics/pandemics are covered by a flu jab). I'd guess there'd be increased pressure for universal healthcare, and increased rate of deaths in countries with neither universal healthcare nor money to provide the jab.
Can they do that? Use one vaccine for both the flu and covid?
Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
by San Lumen » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:42 pm
by Greed and Death » Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:05 pm
San Lumen wrote:https://www.jpost.com/health-science/hebrew-u-scientist-drug-could-eradicate-covid-19-from-lungs-in-days-635028
A drug called Fenofibrate which is FDA approved could be the treatment we’ve be looking for. It worked fantastic in animals and clinical trails will be fast tracked in Israel and the US. The drug appears to stop the virus from replicating or so limit it that it would regulate it to nothing more than a common cold
by Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:14 pm
San Lumen wrote:https://www.jpost.com/health-science/hebrew-u-scientist-drug-could-eradicate-covid-19-from-lungs-in-days-635028
A drug called Fenofibrate which is FDA approved could be the treatment we’ve be looking for. It worked fantastic in animals and clinical trails will be fast tracked in Israel and the US. The drug appears to stop the virus from replicating or so limit it that it would regulate it to nothing more than a common cold
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Kannap » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:52 pm
San Lumen wrote:Ifreann wrote:Yeah, if it was that simple to improve people's lives massively, the government would ignore the monied interests and their lobbyists.
You and others act like everything could be fixed tomorrow if we wanted too. Lobbying and money in politics is a problem but everything isn’t as simple as people make it out to be.
I will also remind you that every cause you likely support have lobbyists
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Kannap » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:56 pm
San Lumen wrote:Cisairse wrote:None of those involved solving all of our problems, in fact most of those did literally nothing
Reconstruction only happened because we slaughtered millions of Americans
Honestly the idea that civil rights or lgbt rights or anything like that came about because of voting is insane
Did literally nothing? Are you kidding me?
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Kannap » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:58 pm
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:59 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Salandriagado » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:59 pm
Zurkerx wrote:A new study shows virus immunity in recovered patients may be gone in months.
To break it down, the study looked at healthcare workers and patients from Guy's and St. Thomas’ National Health Service Foundation Trust in London. They found that the antibody count that attacks and destroys the virus quickly declines after peaking several weeks after someone from that facility exhibited symptoms. 60% of patients had a "potent" antibody response at the peak of their fight with COVID-19. However, after two months, that drops significantly to just 16.7% and in some cases, the antibody response to the virus was undetectable.
More will likely come out, but this is not a good sign. That said, the study could help develop a more effective vaccine to ensure that antibodies remain longer in the body though developing a vaccine that you'll need once may seem rather more difficult: it may become like the flu shot. Suffice to say, wear a mask, and don't be careless: we shouldn't let our guard down just yet.
by Punished UMN » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:03 pm
by Greed and Death » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:04 pm
Salandriagado wrote:Zurkerx wrote:A new study shows virus immunity in recovered patients may be gone in months.
To break it down, the study looked at healthcare workers and patients from Guy's and St. Thomas’ National Health Service Foundation Trust in London. They found that the antibody count that attacks and destroys the virus quickly declines after peaking several weeks after someone from that facility exhibited symptoms. 60% of patients had a "potent" antibody response at the peak of their fight with COVID-19. However, after two months, that drops significantly to just 16.7% and in some cases, the antibody response to the virus was undetectable.
More will likely come out, but this is not a good sign. That said, the study could help develop a more effective vaccine to ensure that antibodies remain longer in the body though developing a vaccine that you'll need once may seem rather more difficult: it may become like the flu shot. Suffice to say, wear a mask, and don't be careless: we shouldn't let our guard down just yet.
For the third time in this thread: loss of antibodies is not loss of immunity. Also, the duration of immune responses to a vaccine are essentially entirely unrelated.
by Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:05 pm
Salandriagado wrote:Zurkerx wrote:A new study shows virus immunity in recovered patients may be gone in months.
To break it down, the study looked at healthcare workers and patients from Guy's and St. Thomas’ National Health Service Foundation Trust in London. They found that the antibody count that attacks and destroys the virus quickly declines after peaking several weeks after someone from that facility exhibited symptoms. 60% of patients had a "potent" antibody response at the peak of their fight with COVID-19. However, after two months, that drops significantly to just 16.7% and in some cases, the antibody response to the virus was undetectable.
More will likely come out, but this is not a good sign. That said, the study could help develop a more effective vaccine to ensure that antibodies remain longer in the body though developing a vaccine that you'll need once may seem rather more difficult: it may become like the flu shot. Suffice to say, wear a mask, and don't be careless: we shouldn't let our guard down just yet.
For the third time in this thread: loss of antibodies is not loss of immunity. Also, the duration of immune responses to a vaccine are essentially entirely unrelated.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Salandriagado » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:05 pm
by Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:06 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Salandriagado » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:08 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Estanglia wrote:
I don't know how much having to get an annual COVID injection will change things, particularly if it's included in/with a flu jab (I think some flus that have caused past epidemics/pandemics are covered by a flu jab). I'd guess there'd be increased pressure for universal healthcare, and increased rate of deaths in countries with neither universal healthcare nor money to provide the jab.
Can they do that? Use one vaccine for both the flu and covid?
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:24 pm
by Greed and Death » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:25 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Salandriagado wrote:
For the third time in this thread: loss of antibodies is not loss of immunity. Also, the duration of immune responses to a vaccine are essentially entirely unrelated.
You're not allowed to make sense. Your choice is to either join the "it's just a flu" party and downplay the severity of our situation, dooming thousands more, or you gotta become part of the doomsday cult and believe that this virus is 100% different from all others, immunity only lasts 5 days and it will bring about the end of everything enjoyable in life, as some people have suggested.
by Salandriagado » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:34 pm
by Greed and Death » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:44 pm
Salandriagado wrote:In today's good science news, Moderna's vaccine preliminary report has cleared peer review with no noteworthy changes. As the reports were positive the first time around (small doses generated good antibody and T-cell responses without significant side effects), it's now confirmed good news.
For those of you in the US (18+, not pregnant/breastfeeding, not ill, not previously tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 or participated in a previous coronavirus study, no virus allergies, able to have an injection, not immunodeficient/suppressed, no recent blood received), they're also starting recruiting for Phase III trials imminently.
by Salandriagado » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:52 pm
Greed and Death wrote:Salandriagado wrote:In today's good science news, Moderna's vaccine preliminary report has cleared peer review with no noteworthy changes. As the reports were positive the first time around (small doses generated good antibody and T-cell responses without significant side effects), it's now confirmed good news.
For those of you in the US (18+, not pregnant/breastfeeding, not ill, not previously tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 or participated in a previous coronavirus study, no virus allergies, able to have an injection, not immunodeficient/suppressed, no recent blood received), they're also starting recruiting for Phase III trials imminently.
Estimated completion October 2022.
by Estanglia » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:53 pm
Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
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