Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[Rojava Free State]

Brazil isn't doing so great, now is it?

You'd almost not consider it possible but the guy over there is even more corrupt and incompetent than Trump is. Their Corona death toll is going up rapidly and Bolsonaro is out there promoting quack 'cures'.

30,000 dead and rising. Great Job Jair, you made Brazil uninhabitable for human life.

[Myordas]

How will history remember Coronavirus?

[Nakena]

New outbreak in Peking:

Parts of Beijing have reimposed lockdown measures after a cluster of locally transmitted coronavirus cases emerged nearly two months after the Chinese capital appeared to have stamped out the virus.

The outbreak, linked to a major wholesale food market, raised serious questions about the challenges of keeping the disease at bay, even in countries such as China where authoritarian rule allows harsh containment regulations and invasive tracing systems.

The first case in the new outbreak was discovered on Thursday after a 52-year old man tested positive, prompting the district where he lives to raise its risk level to medium.

Beijing had previously gone 55 days in which the only new infections were citizens returning from other countries. The city had largely returned to normal life, with restaurants and shops opening and daily rush-hour traffic resuming.

As it became clear there were dozens of cases, mostly linked to the Xinfadi food market, there was an abrupt reversal. Southern Fengtai district, where the market is located, has more than 2 million residents, and 11 residential compounds and several schools near the market have been closed.

Movement restrictions were also brought back across the capital, sports events were suspended, tourism from other parts of the country barred and plans to reopen primary schools put on hold.

The new infections sparked a panic about salmon, which was pulled from supermarkets around the country after cutting boards used to prepare imported salmon were among surfaces that tested positive for the virus. Fish cannot be infected by coronavirus.

Six new domestic infections were reported on Saturday, three workers at the Xinfadi market, two people who had visited and a work colleague of one of the visitors.

Mass testing of hundreds of people working at the market uncovered a further 45 asymptomatic cases. The market claims to be the largest wholesale agricultural market in Asia, and Beijing News reported that it supplies nearly 90% of the city’s fruit and vegetables.tT

Officials have quarantined 139 close contacts of people infected. The marketis closed and surrounded by military and police on 24-hour watch. More than 10,000 people who work there will now be tested.

“In accordance with the principle of putting the safety of the masses and health first, we have adopted lockdown measures for the Xinfadi market and surrounding neighbourhoods,” said Chu Junwei, a district official. The district is in a “wartime emergency mode”, he said.

Underlining government concerns, volunteers were going door to door in distant parts of the city on Saturday asking if anyone had visited the Xinfadi market recently. There will be mass testing of anyone who has been there since the end of May.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ood-market

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Any good news?

[Aureumterra]

Any good news?

Europe’s economy is slowly getting back on track, many unemployed are getting either rehired or finding new jobs

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Any good news?

Europe’s economy is slowly getting back on track, many unemployed are getting either rehired or finding new jobs

Good. And on the virus?

[Luminesa]

Europe’s economy is slowly getting back on track, many unemployed are getting either rehired or finding new jobs

Good. And on the virus?

Despite the spikes across the country, it looks like many states are still in a downward slope for deaths. This includes Arizona, which saw a 300% increase in cases, apparently, but which seems to still be doing well. Using health data.org’s COVID projections, even New York, Florida, and New Jersey still seem to be seeing steady decreases in deaths.

Louisiana is having very few hospitalizations, relatively speaking, and deaths in the single-digits in the last few days.

The Mall reopened and I made a really good haul. The two stores I shopped at had very few people and also had available hand-sanitizer around. One store was only allowing 15 customers at a time (not that they have many anyway). Honestly, I prefer shopping with only a few people around, though I hope eventually we’ll be able to move to a Phase 3. Here’s to hoping we don’t mess things up. Fingers crossed!

[Vetalia]

Andrew Cuomo and Tom Wolf baffle me, why on Earth would you have nursing homes treat COVID patients?

I genuinely don't know, honestly at this point it seems like outright malice rather than incompetence. Why are we not focusing testing on employees at LTC facilities and home-health aides?

This virus is evidentially becoming much weaker in terms of its impact on patients outside of the primary vulnerable populations but we are wasting our time on mass testing of people who will have little or no contact with vulnerable people.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Good. And on the virus?

Despite the spikes across the country, it looks like many states are still in a downward slope for deaths. This includes Arizona, which saw a 300% increase in cases, apparently, but which seems to still be doing well. Using health data.org’s COVID projections, even New York, Florida, and New Jersey still seem to be seeing steady decreases in deaths.

Louisiana is having very few hospitalizations, relatively speaking, and deaths in the single-digits in the last few days.

The Mall reopened and I made a really good haul. The two stores I shopped at had very few people and also had available hand-sanitizer around. One store was only allowing 15 customers at a time (not that they have many anyway). Honestly, I prefer shopping with only a few people around, though I hope eventually we’ll be able to move to a Phase 3. Here’s to hoping we don’t mess things up. Fingers crossed!

I hope so. Did see that New Zealand has been declared CoVID19 free so kudos to them.

[Shazbotdom]

Good. And on the virus?

Despite the spikes across the country, it looks like many states are still in a downward slope for deaths. This includes Arizona, which saw a 300% increase in cases, apparently, but which seems to still be doing well. Using health data.org’s COVID projections, even New York, Florida, and New Jersey still seem to be seeing steady decreases in deaths.

Louisiana is having very few hospitalizations, relatively speaking, and deaths in the single-digits in the last few days.

The Mall reopened and I made a really good haul. The two stores I shopped at had very few people and also had available hand-sanitizer around. One store was only allowing 15 customers at a time (not that they have many anyway). Honestly, I prefer shopping with only a few people around, though I hope eventually we’ll be able to move to a Phase 3. Here’s to hoping we don’t mess things up. Fingers crossed!

My favorite bar opened back up today. Although my favorite bartender worked daytime and I was running Doordash at the time. I plan on going tomorrow after Doordash because she works nights on Sunday.

[San Lumen]

Andrew Cuomo and Tom Wolf baffle me, why on Earth would you have nursing homes treat COVID patients?

I genuinely don't know, honestly at this point it seems like outright malice rather than incompetence. Why are we not focusing testing on employees at LTC facilities and home-health aides?

This virus is evidentially becoming much weaker in terms of its impact on patients outside of the primary vulnerable populations but we are wasting our time on mass testing of people who will have little or no contact with vulnerable people.

It seems that way but we will have to wait a few weeks to know for sure

[Greater vakolicci haven]

In case you thought this year couldn't get any weirder, the guardian is now talking sense.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... e-too-high

[Post War America]

In case you thought this year couldn't get any weirder, the guardian is now talking sense.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... e-too-high

Its just a damn shame that nobody really has any effective ideas other than lockdown at this point. Its almost as if our systemic divestment from emergency preparedness and epidemiology have left us poorly prepared for viral outbreaks.

[San Lumen]

In case you thought this year couldn't get any weirder, the guardian is now talking sense.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... e-too-high

Its just a damn shame that nobody really has any effective ideas other than lockdown at this point. Its almost as if our systemic divestment from emergency preparedness and epidemiology have left us poorly prepared for viral outbreaks.

That is very true. We need a better solution than lockdowns and limiting capacity. You can only do that for so long before you do more damage the pandemic ever could.

A second lockdown is unlikely as the author of the editorial is right it would be far to costly and cause even worse economic damage

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

Brazil isn't doing so great, now is it?

You'd almost not consider it possible but the guy over there is even more corrupt and incompetent than Trump is. Their Corona death toll is going up rapidly and Bolsonaro is out there promoting quack 'cures'.

30,000 dead and rising. Great Job Jair, you made Brazil uninhabitable for human life.

Trump at least has the decency to watch from afar, Bolsonaro is actively participating in protests against lockdown. He may fall sick soon if he keeps up like this.

[San Lumen]

30,000 dead and rising. Great Job Jair, you made Brazil uninhabitable for human life.

Trump at least has the decency to watch from afar, Bolsonaro is actively participating in protests against lockdown. He may fall sick soon if he keeps up like this.

Bolsonaro is truly one of the worst heads of state in the world. I am still amazed this man won a national election

[Post War America]

Its just a damn shame that nobody really has any effective ideas other than lockdown at this point. Its almost as if our systemic divestment from emergency preparedness and epidemiology have left us poorly prepared for viral outbreaks.

That is very true. We need a better solution than lockdowns and limiting capacity. You can only do that for so long before you do more damage the pandemic ever could.

A second lockdown is unlikely as the author of the editorial is right it would be far to costly and cause even worse economic damage

Here's the thing though, lockdowns are like the hammer of solutions, blunt, effective, but ultimately not the most efficient for all tasks. The problem is Western societies, through neoliberal austerity measures have gutted their emergency preparation systems, which is like throwing out the toolbox. Sure it might be nice to image how much easier it would be to screw these boards together, but we don't have a screwdriver, all we have is a hammer.

The issue with this articles, is that they consistently seem to be more in favor of complaining about how bad it is that we're hammering screws, but they never seem to ask why we only have the hammer, nor do they frequently call for the acquisition of more tools.

[Nakena]

30,000 dead and rising. Great Job Jair, you made Brazil uninhabitable for human life.

Trump at least has the decency to watch from afar, Bolsonaro is actively participating in protests against lockdown. He may fall sick soon if he keeps up like this.

Didn he already had it beforehand?

[San Lumen]

That is very true. We need a better solution than lockdowns and limiting capacity. You can only do that for so long before you do more damage the pandemic ever could.

A second lockdown is unlikely as the author of the editorial is right it would be far to costly and cause even worse economic damage

Here's the thing though, lockdowns are like the hammer of solutions, blunt, effective, but ultimately not the most efficient for all tasks. The problem is Western societies, through neoliberal austerity measures have gutted their emergency preparation systems, which is like throwing out the toolbox. Sure it might be nice to image how much easier it would be to screw these boards together, but we don't have a screwdriver, all we have is a hammer.

The issue with this articles, is that they consistently seem to be more in favor of complaining about how bad it is that we're hammering screws, but they never seem to ask why we only have the hammer, nor do they frequently call for the acquisition of more tools.

We do have to find a better solution. On and off lockdowns would shut the doors of many business and destroy entire industries.

Gutting emergency preparation is one of the dumbest things any government can do

[Vassenor]

In case you thought this year couldn't get any weirder, the guardian is now talking sense.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... e-too-high

So you agree that the lockdown was implemented badly and if it had been done properly we'd be much better off? Because that's what the article is saying. Not that we shouldn't have locked down.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Trump at least has the decency to watch from afar, Bolsonaro is actively participating in protests against lockdown. He may fall sick soon if he keeps up like this.

Bolsonaro is truly one of the worst heads of state in the world. I am still amazed this man won a national election

He has a good attitude towards lockdown.

[Vassenor]

Bolsonaro is truly one of the worst heads of state in the world. I am still amazed this man won a national election

He has a good attitude towards lockdown.

Burying his head in the sand and pretending the virus isn't real isn't "a good attitude".

[Post War America]

Here's the thing though, lockdowns are like the hammer of solutions, blunt, effective, but ultimately not the most efficient for all tasks. The problem is Western societies, through neoliberal austerity measures have gutted their emergency preparation systems, which is like throwing out the toolbox. Sure it might be nice to image how much easier it would be to screw these boards together, but we don't have a screwdriver, all we have is a hammer.

The issue with this articles, is that they consistently seem to be more in favor of complaining about how bad it is that we're hammering screws, but they never seem to ask why we only have the hammer, nor do they frequently call for the acquisition of more tools.

We do have to find a better solution. On and off lockdowns would shut the doors of many business and destroy entire industries.

Gutting emergency preparation is one of the dumbest things any government can do

Yeah it is, here's the thing though, that's going to require sacrifices. For starters people are probably going to have to pay more taxes, corporations, particularly ones connected to food such as meat packing, are probably going to need to be much more tightly regulated. Most importantly though, Westerners need ultimately need to do away with the notion that sacrifices, even the most minor ones, such as wearing masks in public and maintaining a certain distance from other people in peak virus times, is tyranny.

It's easy to say we need an alternative solution, but the problem is so many people are unwilling to put in the work, or sacrifice the freedoms that it takes.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

We do have to find a better solution. On and off lockdowns would shut the doors of many business and destroy entire industries.

Gutting emergency preparation is one of the dumbest things any government can do

Yeah it is, here's the thing though, that's going to require sacrifices. For starters people are probably going to have to pay more taxes, corporations, particularly ones connected to food such as meat packing, are probably going to need to be much more tightly regulated. Most importantly though, Westerners need ultimately need to do away with the notion that sacrifices, even the most minor ones, such as wearing masks in public and maintaining a certain distance from other people in peak virus times, is tyranny.

It's easy to say we need an alternative solution, but the problem is so many people are unwilling to put in the work, or sacrifice the freedoms that it takes.

I see sacrifices like this as tyranny because I don't feel I have a duty towards anybody else, unless I voluntarily assume such duty.

[Vassenor]

Also if this virus is just a flu and no big deal, why did it result in an otherwise healthy woman in her 20’s needing a double lung transplant to keep her alive after contracting it? (CW: GRAPHIC CONTENT)