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Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

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Have you or anyone in your vincinity been affected by COVID-19?

I don't know anyone who has been diagnosed with COVID-19
285
45%
I know someone was diagnosed with COVID-19
149
23%
Someone very close to me was diagnosed with COVID-19
39
6%
I know someone who was hospitalized with COVID-19
56
9%
Someone very close to me was hospitalized with COVID-19
27
4%
I was diagnosed with COVID-19
22
3%
I was hospitalized with COVID-19
8
1%
I don't know/unsure/other
54
8%
 
Total votes : 640

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Postby Diahon » Sun May 03, 2020 1:01 pm

Nakena wrote:
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OHAI!

Diahon, you naughty boy.

I am going to miss you.

Glad you could made it into the 4th iteration of this most exciting series of threads.


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Postby Estanglia » Sun May 03, 2020 1:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Asked and answered. He was not talking about pandemics.

I don’t think his quote had stipulations


His quote does have context.

Apply it to a different context, and it might not work the same.

He believed he was fighting a tyranny from man, caused by man. We have a tyranny from man, caused by a virus.
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Postby Nakena » Sun May 03, 2020 1:02 pm

Diahon wrote:
Nakena wrote:
OHAI!

Diahon, you naughty boy.

I am going to miss you.

Glad you could made it into the 4th iteration of this most exciting series of threads.


well, i'm not dead yet, so i may yet live forever


How did the Covid-19 turn out for you?

All the old one again?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 1:02 pm

Diahon wrote:
Nakena wrote:
OHAI!

Diahon, you naughty boy.

I am going to miss you.

Glad you could made it into the 4th iteration of this most exciting series of threads.


well, i'm not dead yet, so i may yet live forever


:eyebrow:

How do we know you aren’t undead?
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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 03, 2020 1:03 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I don’t think his quote had stipulations


Not all quotes are memes.

Never said they were

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 1:04 pm

Estanglia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I don’t think his quote had stipulations


His quote does have context.

Apply it to a different context, and it might not work the same.

He believed he was fighting a tyranny from man, caused by man. We have a tyranny from man, caused by a virus.


Indeed. I suspect Franklin supported the idea of isolation over Scarlet Fever or smallpox.
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 1:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Not all quotes are memes.

Never said they were


You are treating Franklins comment as one.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 1:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Asked and answered. He was not talking about pandemics.

I don’t think his quote had stipulations


Come on Lumen, you've gotta understand quotes don't blanket apply to every situation.
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Postby Diahon » Sun May 03, 2020 1:05 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Diahon wrote:
well, i'm not dead yet, so i may yet live forever


:eyebrow:

How do we know you aren’t undead?


not talking about brains all the time, am i?

instead i talk about dicks and the people who want them

diiiiiiiiiiickkkkkkkkkks
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 03, 2020 1:06 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I don’t think his quote had stipulations


Come on Lumen, you've gotta understand quotes don't blanket apply to every situation.

Nuh-uh, Ben Franklin said it and he knew everything so it's right all the time.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 1:06 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Fart Proudly.


I'm feeling pretty attacked right now....


You wouldn’t have this problem if you asked for permission before sniffing.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The South Falls » Sun May 03, 2020 1:11 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I'm feeling pretty attacked right now....


You wouldn’t have this problem if you asked for permission before sniffing.

I mean what is he supposed to do, it's his livelihood at stake!
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 1:13 pm

Diahon wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
:eyebrow:

How do we know you aren’t undead?


not talking about brains all the time, am i?

instead i talk about dicks and the people who want them

diiiiiiiiiiickkkkkkkkkks


Ohhhh vampire. I heard they can be into dicks as well!

Not my area and I don’t judge.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Major-Tom » Sun May 03, 2020 1:14 pm

My Governor is getting torn apart on Twitter for extending the stay-at-home order by the exact same people who chastised him for not implementing one in March.

People have such selective memories, I swear. Every Twitter mom demanded the order, now they're calling for "freedom." Smh, I'm just glad Ducey had some stones for once to go against other red state Governors.
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Postby Nakena » Sun May 03, 2020 1:15 pm

Diahon wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
:eyebrow:

How do we know you aren’t undead?


not talking about brains all the time, am i?

instead i talk about dicks and the people who want them

diiiiiiiiiiickkkkkkkkkks


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Postby Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 1:15 pm

Major-Tom wrote:My Governor is getting torn apart on Twitter for extending the stay-at-home order by the exact same people who chastised him for not implementing one in March.

People have such selective memories, I swear. Every Twitter mom demanded the order, now they're calling for "freedom." Smh.


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Postby Theodosiya » Sun May 03, 2020 1:18 pm

Nakena wrote:


Be careful, GVH has been said to report those to the mods who call him out.

For this and other reasons he'd ended up on my foelist.

He...did that? While putting Freedom as number 1?

Anyway, how much you guys think the actual number of the cases? As in, likely unreported or unknown? Could it be in the tens of millions ?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 1:20 pm

Theodosiya wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Be careful, GVH has been said to report those to the mods who call him out.

For this and other reasons he'd ended up on my foelist.

He...did that? While putting Freedom as number 1?

Anyway, how much you guys think the actual number of the cases? As in, likely unreported or unknown? Could it be in the tens of millions ?


There is the possibility. Countries like China will lie. Other countries are starting to look at past deaths and finding covid possibilities.

This event had screw ups all over the place. My Pollyanna view says we can learn from it and then my cynical view corrects.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Nakena » Sun May 03, 2020 1:22 pm

Theodosiya wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Be careful, GVH has been said to report those to the mods who call him out.

For this and other reasons he'd ended up on my foelist.

He...did that? While putting Freedom as number 1?

Anyway, how much you guys think the actual number of the cases? As in, likely unreported or unknown? Could it be in the tens of millions ?


Theres probably hundred of thousends up to the millions of unreported, mild or symptomless, cases that went unnoticed and aren't yet in the stats.

My wild guess-timation is about two or three million. Of whomst probably 40-50% are already fine again and immunized, since most probably got it before the various lockdowns set in.
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Postby Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 1:25 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Andsed wrote:Only for a temporary period. Death is permanent. Freedom cannot always be the top priority. Sometimes during an extreme crisis we have to look past them to take action to save lives.

Freedom must always be the top priority because life without freedom isn't worth living.


If you're going to guarantee us the freedom to die, can I at least get a much cooler method than succumbing quietly to a virus?
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun May 03, 2020 1:26 pm

Nakena wrote:Theres probably hundred of thousends up to the millions of unreported, mild or symptomless, cases that went unnoticed and aren't yet in the stats.

Yes. The patchy testing means that the number of confirmed cases will be but a fraction of the actual number.

Nakena wrote:My wild guess-timation is about two or three million. Of whomst probably 40-50% are already fine again and immunized, since most probably got it before the various lockdowns set in.

Immunized?
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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 03, 2020 1:27 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Nakena wrote:Theres probably hundred of thousends up to the millions of unreported, mild or symptomless, cases that went unnoticed and aren't yet in the stats.

Yes. The patchy testing means that the number of confirmed cases will be but a fraction of the actual number.

Nakena wrote:My wild guess-timation is about two or three million. Of whomst probably 40-50% are already fine again and immunized, since most probably got it before the various lockdowns set in.

Immunized?

if you had it you therefore have antibodies.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 03, 2020 1:27 pm

Kannap wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Freedom must always be the top priority because life without freedom isn't worth living.


If you're going to guarantee us the freedom to die, can I at least get a much cooler method than succumbing quietly to a virus?

I've always wanted to experience being vaporised by the x-ray/gamma/neutron flux of a nuclear detonation tbh
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 1:29 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Kannap wrote:
If you're going to guarantee us the freedom to die, can I at least get a much cooler method than succumbing quietly to a virus?

I've always wanted to experience being vaporised by the x-ray/gamma/neutron flux of a nuclear detonation tbh
/s


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Postby Necroghastia » Sun May 03, 2020 1:29 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Andsed wrote:Only for a temporary period. Death is permanent. Freedom cannot always be the top priority. Sometimes during an extreme crisis we have to look past them to take action to save lives.

Freedom must always be the top priority because life without freedom isn't worth living.

If you spread the virus to someone you are negatively impacting that person's freedom.
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