What Would It Take for You to Vote for Biden?

[Godular]

There’s nothing Biden can possibly do to gain my vote, mainly because I don’t vote, mainly because liberal democracy has ended up with this oligarchy we have where each choice is pupated by a billionaire behind the scenes

Don't because you can't, or don't because you won't?

If you can vote and you refuse to do so, you've decidedly less cause to complain. If you got problems with how the bed is made, make it yourself.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I've read it already. Their healthcare plans for example are not the same. Joe said that a Bernie style single payer bill would be vetoed if it went to his desk during an interview. Bernie also is more strongly anti-wall street. They are not similar.


That too.

We actually just fucking went over this is another thread. All you've done is taken an out of context clip and treated it as political fact.

Joe didn't say he'd outright veto any healthcare bill that would somehow miraculously get through Congress, he said he'd veto something that uprooted the healthcare stability of the country, 2 completely different things. He has his UHC/Public option plan that's basically a mix of Warren's and Sanders'.

But that would take actually researching his ideas and not just spewing out misinformation. Come on, you can do better than this, I believe you can.

He is also worried about the price tag too. I don't think this is a slip, unless you can cite a good source that says otherwise. I have also seen him oppose it during the debates, and him taking some inspiration from Sanders does not change that. It's a different plan that is mainly based on obamacare with some sort of public option mixed in. It is not as far reaching as sander's plan.
Also, what do you mean "we went over this?" I don't recall debating this with you.

If you can vote and you refuse to do so, you've decidedly less cause to complain. If you got problems with how the bed is made, make it yourself.

It takes time to vote, and its not always as easy as walking in and casting a ballot depending on where you are. It is not worth doing that if none of the candidates are good. I disagree with the fascist on what would be a good candidate, but my point still stands.

[The Two Jerseys]

I'd vote for Biden if he wasn't senile.
And if he stopped creepily sniffing women's hair.
And if the Democratic Party stopped playing identity politics.
And stopped irrationally hating guns.
And supported bringing manufacturing back to America from wherever it was outsourced to.
And supported enforcement of immigration laws.
And stopped believing that it's the government's job to do everything for everyone.

[New haven america]

We actually just fucking went over this is another thread. All you've done is taken an out of context clip and treated it as political fact.

Joe didn't say he'd outright veto any healthcare bill that would somehow miraculously get through Congress, he said he'd veto something that uprooted the healthcare stability of the country, 2 completely different things. He has his UHC/Public option plan that's basically a mix of Warren's and Sanders'.

But that would take actually researching his ideas and not just spewing out misinformation. Come on, you can do better than this, I believe you can.

1. He is also worried about the price tag too. 2. I don't think this is a slip, unless you can cite a good source that says otherwise. I have also seen him oppose it during the debates, and him taking some inspiration from Sanders does not change that. 3. It's a different plan that is mainly based on obamacare.
4. Also, what do you mean "we went over this?" I don't recall debating this with you.

If you can vote and you refuse to do so, you've decidedly less cause to complain. If you got problems with how the bed is made, make it yourself.

It takes time to vote, and its not always as easy as walking in and casting a ballot depending on where you are. It is not worth doing that if none of the candidates are good. I disagree with the fascist on what would be a good candidate, but my point still stands.

1. As any leader implementing UHC should be. Warren and Sanders were too, with Warren going into excruciating detail about how the economics and funding for her system would work.
2. No, it's not a slip, it's a clip from an almost 2 hour interview that's been taken out of context.
3. As is Sanders' plan...
4. There was an entire and excruciating discussion on it in one of the other election threads, I'll try to find it again.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

There’s nothing Biden can possibly do to gain my vote, mainly because I don’t vote, mainly because liberal democracy has ended up with this oligarchy we have where each choice is pupated by a billionaire behind the scenes

Which is why we should implement fascist dictatorship! /s

I never understood why people would think fascism is a better alternative. At least we have the freedom to criticize our current elites, which is something we cannot do under fascism.

[Gormwood]

Which is why we should implement fascist dictatorship! /s

I never understood why people would think fascism is a better alternative. At least we have the freedom to criticize our current elites, which is something we cannot do under fascism.

The fantasy that they would be the ones wearing the jackboots.

[Nazeroth]

I never understood why people would think fascism is a better alternative. At least we have the freedom to criticize our current elites, which is something we cannot do under fascism.

The fantasy that they would be the ones wearing the jackboots.

Same could be said for the leftists, thinking their orwellian laws and standards wont be used on them

[Godular]

If you can vote and you refuse to do so, you've decidedly less cause to complain. If you got problems with how the bed is made, make it yourself.

It takes time to vote, and its not always as easy as walking in and casting a ballot depending on where you are. It is not worth doing that if none of the candidates are good. I disagree with the fascist on what would be a good candidate, but my point still stands.

I must respectfully disagree on that point. While the contest might be on which is the shiniest of two turds, that doesn't mean you should refuse to choose. Even if you go in to do a write-in for Cthulhu 2020, at least ya said something.

That being said, it would be quite good to make it easier to vote for folks that might have difficulty in the doing.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

1. He is also worried about the price tag too. 2. I don't think this is a slip, unless you can cite a good source that says otherwise. I have also seen him oppose it during the debates, and him taking some inspiration from Sanders does not change that. 3. It's a different plan that is mainly based on obamacare.
4. Also, what do you mean "we went over this?" I don't recall debating this with you.


It takes time to vote, and its not always as easy as walking in and casting a ballot depending on where you are. It is not worth doing that if none of the candidates are good. I disagree with the fascist on what would be a good candidate, but my point still stands.

1. As any leader implementing UHC should be. Warren and Sanders were too, with Warren going into excruciating detail about how the economics and funding for her system would work.
2. No, it's not a slip, it's a clip from an almost 2 hour interview that's been taken out of context.
3. As is Sanders' plan...
4. There was an entire and excruciating discussion on it in one of the other election threads, I'll try to find it again.

Admittedly, my second point was due to a minor misread. Regardless, I don't think it was taken out of context, as there are other things he said, but alright. As for the discussion you're talking about, just link the first post if you can find it, as I will read it.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

There’s nothing Biden can possibly do to gain my vote, mainly because I don’t vote, mainly because liberal democracy has ended up with this oligarchy we have where each choice is pupated by a billionaire behind the scenes

Don't because you can't, or don't because you won't?

If you can vote and you refuse to do so, you've decidedly less cause to complain. If you got problems with how the bed is made, make it yourself.

Unfortunately, the democratic system is far too long gone to be saved through reform

[LiberNovusAmericae]

It takes time to vote, and its not always as easy as walking in and casting a ballot depending on where you are. It is not worth doing that if none of the candidates are good. I disagree with the fascist on what would be a good candidate, but my point still stands.

I must respectfully disagree on that point. While the contest might be on which is the shiniest of two turds, that doesn't mean you should refuse to choose. Even if you go in to do a write-in for Cthulhu 2020, at least ya said something.

That being said, it would be quite good to make it easier to vote for folks that might have difficulty in the doing.

I agree with your last statement. I think election day should be a holiday, so people don't have to worry about losing their jobs if they vote, and we should have same day registration.

[US-SSR]

President Trump is doing EXACTLY what I voted for him for: belittling, insulting and harming minorities, women and everyone who makes undereducated white men feel inferior while he and his party pick our pockets, break any law, collude with any adversary, sell out the nation's health and economy and enrich themselves and their masters in The One Percent in order to hang on to the last shred of political power. We may die of COVID-19 but it will be with smiles on our faces thinking about how everyone who doesn't think like us and truly believes in the promise of America hates Trump and everything he stands for.

fify

fify Covfefe

Thanks for providing my laugh of the day. You're hilarious

Not saying that President Trump is 100% certain of being re-elected (there is literally NOTHING Democrats won't do to seize and secure power), but when he wins, I hope you post a reaction video too. I've been watching the 2016 melt-downs for the last four years and they never get old.

If after presiding over the most corrupt, venal, criminal, callous, unrestrained US administration ever that narcissistic buffoon is re-elected I will gladly stipulate that the nation has finally got the government it deserves. But don't expect me to become sympathetic or sensitive to the feels of undereducated white men who find hundreds of years of privilege insufficient to salve their fragile egos, who then vote for race-baiting politicians proven to have no interest in them who will break any law, pack any court, gerrymander any district, collude with any adversary and jeopardize the health and prosperity of the nation to hang on to the last shred of political power. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

[Nazeroth]

fify Covfefe

Thanks for providing my laugh of the day. You're hilarious

Not saying that President Trump is 100% certain of being re-elected (there is literally NOTHING Democrats won't do to seize and secure power), but when he wins, I hope you post a reaction video too. I've been watching the 2016 melt-downs for the last four years and they never get old.

If after presiding over the most corrupt, venal, criminal, callous, unrestrained US administration ever that narcissistic buffoon is re-elected I will gladly stipulate that the nation has finally got the government it deserves. But don't expect me to become sympathetic or sensitive to the feels of undereducated white men who find hundreds of years of privilege insufficient to salve their fragile egos, who then vote for race-baiting politicians proven to have no interest in them who will break any law, pack any court, gerrymander any district, collude with any adversary and jeopardize the health and prosperity of the nation to hang on to the last shred of political power. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

Life must be so hard for you

[LiberNovusAmericae]

fify Covfefe

Thanks for providing my laugh of the day. You're hilarious

Not saying that President Trump is 100% certain of being re-elected (there is literally NOTHING Democrats won't do to seize and secure power), but when he wins, I hope you post a reaction video too. I've been watching the 2016 melt-downs for the last four years and they never get old.

If after presiding over the most corrupt, venal, criminal, callous, unrestrained US administration ever that narcissistic buffoon is re-elected I will gladly stipulate that the nation has finally got the government it deserves. But don't expect me to become sympathetic or sensitive to the feels of undereducated white men who find hundreds of years of privilege insufficient to salve their fragile egos, who then vote for race-baiting politicians proven to have no interest in them who will break any law, pack any court, gerrymander any district, collude with any adversary and jeopardize the health and prosperity of the nation to hang on to the last shred of political power. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

Tell that to the white men in the rust belt who aren't in the best of economic situations. I'm sure it will make them want to vote for your party.

If your party doesn't care about their economic interests, expect them to take their chances with the buffoon.

[Gormwood]

fify Covfefe

Thanks for providing my laugh of the day. You're hilarious

Not saying that President Trump is 100% certain of being re-elected (there is literally NOTHING Democrats won't do to seize and secure power), but when he wins, I hope you post a reaction video too. I've been watching the 2016 melt-downs for the last four years and they never get old.

If after presiding over the most corrupt, venal, criminal, callous, unrestrained US administration ever that narcissistic buffoon is re-elected I will gladly stipulate that the nation has finally got the government it deserves. But don't expect me to become sympathetic or sensitive to the feels of undereducated white men who find hundreds of years of privilege insufficient to salve their fragile egos, who then vote for race-baiting politicians proven to have no interest in them who will break any law, pack any court, gerrymander any district, collude with any adversary and jeopardize the health and prosperity of the nation to hang on to the last shred of political power. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

He just has dreams of Trump owning the Feminati and grabbing Gloria Steinem by the pussy

[US-SSR]

If after presiding over the most corrupt, venal, criminal, callous, unrestrained US administration ever that narcissistic buffoon is re-elected I will gladly stipulate that the nation has finally got the government it deserves. But don't expect me to become sympathetic or sensitive to the feels of undereducated white men who find hundreds of years of privilege insufficient to salve their fragile egos, who then vote for race-baiting politicians proven to have no interest in them who will break any law, pack any court, gerrymander any district, collude with any adversary and jeopardize the health and prosperity of the nation to hang on to the last shred of political power. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

Life must be so hard for you

My life is actually quite good. But then again we got out of the stock market like a year ago. How's your 401k? As for the future, I hear it's relatively simple to get legal resident status in Costa Rica. iPura Vida! baby.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

If after presiding over the most corrupt, venal, criminal, callous, unrestrained US administration ever that narcissistic buffoon is re-elected I will gladly stipulate that the nation has finally got the government it deserves. But don't expect me to become sympathetic or sensitive to the feels of undereducated white men who find hundreds of years of privilege insufficient to salve their fragile egos, who then vote for race-baiting politicians proven to have no interest in them who will break any law, pack any court, gerrymander any district, collude with any adversary and jeopardize the health and prosperity of the nation to hang on to the last shred of political power. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

Tell that to the white men in the rust belt who aren't in the best of economic situations. I'm sure it will make them want to vote for your party.

If your party doesn't care about their economic interests, expect them to take their chances with the buffoon.

Quoted again as I just edited this, and I don't want the edit to be missed. When your candidates don't care about the rust belt, expect candidates who at least pretend to care to win.

[US-SSR]

If after presiding over the most corrupt, venal, criminal, callous, unrestrained US administration ever that narcissistic buffoon is re-elected I will gladly stipulate that the nation has finally got the government it deserves. But don't expect me to become sympathetic or sensitive to the feels of undereducated white men who find hundreds of years of privilege insufficient to salve their fragile egos, who then vote for race-baiting politicians proven to have no interest in them who will break any law, pack any court, gerrymander any district, collude with any adversary and jeopardize the health and prosperity of the nation to hang on to the last shred of political power. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

Tell that to the white men in the rust belt who aren't in the best of economic situations. I'm sure it will make them want to vote for your party.

If your party doesn't care about their economic interests, expect them to take their chances with the buffoon.

Thanks, but I just did. And when was the last time this administration bothered itself with the economic interests of white men, black women or Hispanic trans individuals in the rust belt, the bible belt or the Van Allen Belts? It's all about The One Percent, all the time, pal.

[Nazeroth]

Tell that to the white men in the rust belt who aren't in the best of economic situations. I'm sure it will make them want to vote for your party.

If your party doesn't care about their economic interests, expect them to take their chances with the buffoon.

Thanks, but I just did. And when was the last time this administration bothered itself with the economic interests of white men, black women or Hispanic trans individuals in the rust belt, the bible belt or the Van Allen Belts? It's all about The One Percent, all the time, pal.

Trans people are a hilariously small percent of the population

And have you heard of the first step act?

[New haven america]

If after presiding over the most corrupt, venal, criminal, callous, unrestrained US administration ever that narcissistic buffoon is re-elected I will gladly stipulate that the nation has finally got the government it deserves. But don't expect me to become sympathetic or sensitive to the feels of undereducated white men who find hundreds of years of privilege insufficient to salve their fragile egos, who then vote for race-baiting politicians proven to have no interest in them who will break any law, pack any court, gerrymander any district, collude with any adversary and jeopardize the health and prosperity of the nation to hang on to the last shred of political power. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

Tell that to the white men in the rust belt who aren't in the best of economic situations. I'm sure it will make them want to vote for your party.

If your party doesn't care about their economic interests, expect them to take their chances with the buffoon.

If they think that Trump who lied to them for 4 years straight and made life economically more difficult for them isn't going to lie to them again, then quite frankly, their economic position is no one else's fault but their own.

[Poskistan]

Him to stand for some moral principles instead of just Trump bad.

[Nazeroth]

Tell that to the white men in the rust belt who aren't in the best of economic situations. I'm sure it will make them want to vote for your party.

If your party doesn't care about their economic interests, expect them to take their chances with the buffoon.

If they think that Trump who lied to them for 4 years straight and made life economically more difficult for them isn't going to lie to them again, then quite frankly, their economic position is no one else's fault but their own.

Thats funny how many decades have dems done black people dirty in there “utopia” cities of welfare and gun control?

[Gormwood]

Him to stand for some moral principles instead of just Trump bad.

So yeah, Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and ot lose votes. Or spin bullshit about how a pandemic is no big deal for that matter.

[New haven america]

If they think that Trump who lied to them for 4 years straight and made life economically more difficult for them isn't going to lie to them again, then quite frankly, their economic position is no one else's fault but their own.

Thats funny how many decades have dems done black people dirty in there “utopia” cities of welfare and gun control?

Black people in cities are generally more well off than black people in rural areas, especially the South, so yeah...

Also, most of the opposition to helping Black Americans socioeconomically has come from right-wing conservatives.

[The Two Jerseys]

Tell that to the white men in the rust belt who aren't in the best of economic situations. I'm sure it will make them want to vote for your party.

If your party doesn't care about their economic interests, expect them to take their chances with the buffoon.

Quoted again as I just edited this, and I don't want the edit to be missed. When your candidates don't care about the rust belt, expect candidates who at least pretend to care to win.

"Can it be true? Are working-class white men not voting for us because our policies have completely alienated them?"

"No, it's because those dumb hicks are racist, sexist everything-phobes!"