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How do you plan to vote? (Someone asked for this poll)

Biden (because I support Biden)
106
8%
Biden (because he's the lesser of two evils)
254
19%
Trump (for some reason)
264
20%
Third Party (or Independent)
117
9%
Write-In (maybe Bernie)
33
2%
I don't know right now
33
2%
I don't know (but I am not voting for Biden and/or Trump)
27
2%
I don't plan to vote
31
2%
I am against electoral politics
49
4%
I can't vote (under voting age, not a citizen, disenfrancisement, etc...)
428
32%
 
Total votes : 1342

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Postby Ankenland » Sun May 03, 2020 6:01 pm

If Hillary Clinton was less attractive and missing about 15 IQ points, that would be the candidate you're talking about.

AOC is only brought up because she's the most obnoxious imaginable thing that Fox News / Breitbart etc. loves to hate on, like that ugly-assed fat slob that CNN brings on every time they want to talk to a "Republican." These are self-unaware strawmen, not serious candidates.

There is a glitch in your program that recognizes serious people.

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Postby Nakena » Sun May 03, 2020 7:32 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:We need a Muslim president. I'm no fan of Islam, but if we can have Christians as presidents then why not a Muslim? Especially since everyone is a fucking dipshit and thinks that just being an Arab (not even being muslim) means you're a potential terrorist. 19 hijackers on 9/11 somehow represent billions of people. And hey, a Muslim president can't be any worse than Trump.


Depends on the guy (or gal) tbh.

Politicians like like Sajid Javid (UK) or various kemalist ones from Turkey also don't wear the gloves when dealing with islamism, because they know it first hand.
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Postby Nuloerkun » Sun May 03, 2020 8:13 pm

Nakena wrote:
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Bernie is a communist, lol. Not that it's inherently bad, he's just doing it wrong.


Of course.

Juche/Songun is far superior to the false teaching of Marxism-Leninism.

Most of his followers are marxists too.


No, Lenin was a lot better than Kim, who is as bad as Stalin or Mao (although with a much smaller country the three Kims combined have only caused ~10 million deaths)
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Postby Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 9:39 pm

Nuloerkun wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Of course.

Juche/Songun is far superior to the false teaching of Marxism-Leninism.

Most of his followers are marxists too.


No, Lenin was a lot better than Kim, who is as bad as Stalin or Mao (although with a much smaller country the three Kims combined have only caused ~10 million deaths)

Saying Kim is as bad as Stalin or Mao is saying that Obi-Wan was as bad as Hitler.

Sure, both were bad, but the latter's responsible for millions of deaths while the former is responsible for brainwashing, mass deaths, a religious cult, and leader worship.
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Postby Suid-Afrika and Rhodesia » Sun May 03, 2020 9:43 pm

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Postby Lanorth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:46 pm

I'm British, so I couldn't vote for him anyway. If I was American, however, I wouldn't vote for him. I don't like any presidential candidate, but I feel Trump is better than Biden, only slightly. Nonetheless, that's saying something. They're both imbeciles, to be honest.
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 03, 2020 9:47 pm

Lanorth wrote:I'm British, so I couldn't vote for him anyway. If I was American, however, I wouldn't vote for him. I don't like any presidential candidate, but I feel Trump is better than Biden. ANd that's saying something.

You are correct, it is saying something.

You probably wouldn't like what it's saying, but it's saying something.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:51 pm

New haven america wrote:
Lanorth wrote:I'm British, so I couldn't vote for him anyway. If I was American, however, I wouldn't vote for him. I don't like any presidential candidate, but I feel Trump is better than Biden. ANd that's saying something.

You are correct, it is saying something.

You probably wouldn't like what it's saying, but it's saying something.


Did you....you just tried shaming him...
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 03, 2020 9:54 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
New haven america wrote:You are correct, it is saying something.

You probably wouldn't like what it's saying, but it's saying something.


Did you....you just tried shaming him...

lol, I didn't try, I've been shaming a lot of people who think it's still a good idea to vote for Trump.

Just like how a lot of people have been shaming me for not blindly following Sanders.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 10:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Did you....you just tried shaming him...

lol, I didn't try, I've been shaming a lot of people who think it's still a good idea to vote for Trump.

Just like how a lot of people have been shaming me for not blindly following Sanders.


Ouch, as Trump supporter, it actually hurt watching how the DNC did Bernie, then I sort of stopped careing about the lefts principles after Bernie bend over(for the second time) for establishment corporate dems and got in lock step behind Biden(not to mention there flip fop on meetoo)

though I have heard a lot of progressives are saying no to Biden or even leaving the DNC to try to create a third party from the ashe's(which, is actually a smart move for the long term)

the DSA apparently said they are not endorsing Biden either.
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 03, 2020 10:03 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
New haven america wrote:lol, I didn't try, I've been shaming a lot of people who think it's still a good idea to vote for Trump.

Just like how a lot of people have been shaming me for not blindly following Sanders.


Ouch, as Trump supporter, it actually hurt watching how the DNC did Bernie, then I sort of stopped careing about the lefts principles after Bernie bend over(for the second time) for establishment corporate dems and got in lock step behind Biden(not to mention there flip fop on meetoo)

though I have heard a lot of progressives are saying no to Biden or even leaving the DNC to try to create a third party from the Ashe's(which, is actually a smart move for the long term)

Bernie didn't bend over for the corporate Dems, he fucked up his campaign by hiring the same bridge burning idiots that lost him 2016 and expected things to go differently, as well as relying on the most unreliable voting demographic in the country to get him the nomination.

They didn't vote for him when it mattered and his campaign team did nothing but antagonize the other candidates for doing better or even worse than him.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 10:05 pm

New haven america wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Ouch, as Trump supporter, it actually hurt watching how the DNC did Bernie, then I sort of stopped careing about the lefts principles after Bernie bend over(for the second time) for establishment corporate dems and got in lock step behind Biden(not to mention there flip fop on meetoo)

though I have heard a lot of progressives are saying no to Biden or even leaving the DNC to try to create a third party from the Ashe's(which, is actually a smart move for the long term)

Bernie didn't bend over for the corporate Dems, he fucked up his campaign by hiring the same bridge burning idiots that lost him 2016 and expected things to go differently, as well as relying on the most unreliable voting demographic in the country to get him the nomination.

They didn't vote for him when it mattered and his campaign team did nothing but antagonize the other candidates for doing better or even worse than him.



Well he called "biden his good freind" and said that "biden could beat Trump"

guy clearly had no intentions of winning, sounds like he was a fall guy. When your running for president you don't say " Yeah the other guy can win" or "hes my good freind" when your supposed to be the leader of the "revolution"
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Postby Dogmeat » Mon May 04, 2020 6:30 am

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon May 04, 2020 7:08 am

Gormwood wrote:You know most answers will be variations of "Renounce the nomination and give it to Bernie!"

Probably because Bernie and his supporters have principles. Bidenites are loyal to a candidate whose only allegiance is to the dollar. Joe is as spineless as all the other establishment democrats and their yes men.
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Postby Satuga » Mon May 04, 2020 7:23 am

A lot, a whole lot actually, honestly as it stands, Biden looks like he'd be more incompetent than Trump. He's borderline senile, has no clue what he's talking about when it comes to guns, Doesn't think China is an issue, and wants to keep our soldiers deployed overseas.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon May 04, 2020 7:27 am

Satuga wrote:A lot, a whole lot actually, honestly as it stands, Biden looks like he'd be more incompetent than Trump. He's borderline senile, has no clue what he's talking about when it comes to guns, Doesn't think China is an issue, and wants to keep our soldiers deployed overseas.


But it's a hoax that Biden is senile. Why is it a hoax? It just is. Stop asking questions.

No, NO DON'T GO BACK THERE, MR BIDEN IS TIRED HE DOESN'T SPEAK WELL WHEN HE'S, UH, TIRED.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon May 04, 2020 7:28 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You know most answers will be variations of "Renounce the nomination and give it to Bernie!"

Probably because Bernie and his supporters have principles. Bidenites are loyal to a candidate whose only allegiance is to the dollar. Joe is as spineless as all the other establishment democrats and their yes men.


Bidenites wanna do many of the same things trump is doing but with less of the crazy theatrics of Trump.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon May 04, 2020 7:32 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Probably because Bernie and his supporters have principles. Bidenites are loyal to a candidate whose only allegiance is to the dollar. Joe is as spineless as all the other establishment democrats and their yes men.


Bidenites wanna do many of the same things trump is doing but with less of the crazy theatrics of Trump.

Democrats and Republicans both enjoy screwing Americans over, but at least the Democrats know how to act like they care about Americans.
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Postby Satuga » Mon May 04, 2020 7:35 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Bidenites wanna do many of the same things trump is doing but with less of the crazy theatrics of Trump.

Democrats and Republicans both enjoy screwing Americans over, but at least the Democrats know how to act like they care about Americans.

Id rather someone look me in the eyes while im getting fucked rather than someone doing it while im not looking.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon May 04, 2020 7:42 am

Satuga wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Democrats and Republicans both enjoy screwing Americans over, but at least the Democrats know how to act like they care about Americans.

Id rather someone look me in the eyes while im getting fucked rather than someone doing it while im not looking.

Republicans are incompetent dickheads who go all in all the time, to the point where they are so comically evil, it’s tragic. Democrats, on the other hand, are great liars and know how to seem okay. They flourish because they put up a facade that they are any different from the Republicans. They are, because they are more competent, and more able to pretend to be the good guys. They know when to throw a bone to the Americans, how to keep them from seeing through their illusion. Hopefully, Americans will eventually wise up to the game.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon May 04, 2020 7:47 am

Welcome To Bothsame Masturbation Theatre.
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Gormwood wrote:Welcome To Bothsame Masturbation Theatre.

You dont have to tell everyone what you are doing at your computer btw
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon May 04, 2020 7:52 am

Gormwood wrote:Welcome To Bothsame Masturbation Theatre.

If you enjoy sitting atop a smug sense of sensibility and superiority, be my guest. But the American people are fed up with Washington and the rule of the bourgeoisie, and while you establishment drones grovel beneath the feet of oligarchs, we’ll be organizing. America must change, and you can either accept it, or keep eating the lies that the plutocrats peddle.
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Postby Satuga » Mon May 04, 2020 7:53 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Satuga wrote:Id rather someone look me in the eyes while im getting fucked rather than someone doing it while im not looking.

Republicans are incompetent dickheads who go all in all the time, to the point where they are so comically evil, it’s tragic. Democrats, on the other hand, are great liars and know how to seem okay. They flourish because they put up a facade that they are any different from the Republicans. They are, because they are more competent, and more able to pretend to be the good guys. They know when to throw a bone to the Americans, how to keep them from seeing through their illusion. Hopefully, Americans will eventually wise up to the game.

Sorry but that's objectively not true, there have been plenty of Republican and Democratic candidates that were both incredible, or completely incompetent. I mean seriously Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, the person famous for both being the president during the abolishment of slavery and being one of the most honest guys. And then you have JFK a democrat who maybe wasn't the best president but he certainly was a very good one in the short time he had to run. We also can't forget that the US hasnt even been around for that fucking long, so honestly making assumptions about the whole party is kinda stupid. This doesnt mean we shouldnt criticize people like Biden, Trump, or Hillary, it just means we should probably stop making these completely generalizing statements about the party as a whole.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon May 04, 2020 7:53 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Welcome To Bothsame Masturbation Theatre.

You dont have to tell everyone what you are doing at your computer btw

I'm not the one singing and stroking off about how both parties are the same and that irrelevant third parties are the only hope.
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