What Would It Take for You to Vote for Biden?

[Shofercia]

You had a vote when you nominated Jeb in the 2016 primaries. He lost. Next Republican primary is 2024, where you'll again have a vote. You also got George Bush for eight years, which is more than the rest of us have, so you can stop the complaining.

Yes, and in 2020 we get to vote again, and many of us chose to support Biden or other moderate democrats. Do you have a problem with that?

Nope, as long as you don't have a problem with Republicans remembering your choice when the next primary rolls around. If you make the DNC the party of neolibs & neocons, then America would have no choice but to have a third party, and I certainly wouldn't mind that.

[-Ra-]

Nope, as long as you don't have a problem with Republicans remembering your choice when the next primary rolls around. If you make the DNC the party of neolibs & neocons, then America would have no choice but to have a third party, and I certainly wouldn't mind that.

Imagine thinking the Democrats are somehow the party of the neolibs and neocons.

[Shofercia]

Nope, as long as you don't have a problem with Republicans remembering your choice when the next primary rolls around. If you make the DNC the party of neolibs & neocons, then America would have no choice but to have a third party, and I certainly wouldn't mind that.

Imagine thinking the Democrats are somehow the party of the neolibs and neocons.

They'd end up being one, because of what happened this time around. When Neocon Bush won, Republican Populists and Christians rallied around him. When semi-Populist Trump won, along with Christian Pence, Neocons went "waaa!" took their votes, and went home. Should Christians and Populists support another Neocon, if he or she wins the primary? Of course not, they're not idiots. And that'll leave the Democrats as the only party left for Neocons. They're not said party yet, but if things are going to keep on evolving along this trajectory, they will be.

[Kowani]

As an aside, the Rock is considering a run for California Governorship.

...Cali already had one muscled movie star in the hot seat, we don't need another.

[-Astoria-]

As an aside, the Rock is considering a run for California Governorship.

...Cali already had one muscled movie star in the hot seat, we don't need another.

...and another film star in the White House, too (Reagan).

[Cisairse]

>AOC
>Less controversial than Kamala Harris
Man, down south one of them is literally Satan reincarnated, waving the flag of the godless communist Reds from the Swamp US Capitol that we need to burn to prove we're true patriots, who wants to let in all the immigrants and arm them to murder our babies.

The other is Kamala Harris.

I don’t think AOC has the mental capacity to rival Satan

Did Satan graduate cum laude from his alma mater?

[Cisairse]

Democrats literally could not have gone with AOC.

Democrats need to rally the Progressive Vote, and picking someone who has a record of dishonesty and mass incarceration, isn't going to accomplish that.

That doesn't change the fact that AOC literally cannot be Vice President.

[Shofercia]

Democrats need to rally the Progressive Vote, and picking someone who has a record of dishonesty and mass incarceration, isn't going to accomplish that.

That doesn't change the fact that AOC literally cannot be Vice President.

Yep, it's already been addressed:

Well, yes. Harris is a terrible choice. But AOC isn't eligible. She's too young.

Fair enough, and I never insisted that it had to be AOC, so what about someone like AOC, but older? Any genuine progressive with a record of candor will do.

[Kowani]

I don’t think AOC has the mental capacity to rival Satan

Did Satan graduate cum laude from his alma mater?

Lucifer Satan graduated summa cum laude from the University of Hell, and went on to specialize in Contract Law.

[Cannot think of a name]

As an aside, the Rock is considering a run for California Governorship.

...Cali already had one muscled movie star in the hot seat, we don't need another.

We're not going to do one of those goofy 145 people elections to give him a chance again.

[The Alma Mater]

I don’t think AOC has the mental capacity to rival Satan

Did Satan graduate cum laude from his alma mater?

Summa cum laude, yes. I would know

[The Archregimancy]

I would just like to take a moment to note that both of Ms Harris's parents were born as British subjects, and Ms Harris herself lived in a Commonwealth Realm of Elizabeth II for most of her teenage years.

Soon, my precious....

Soon....

I just want to take a moment to point out that the above post from the 12th of August was a joke, not as a subtle invitation to supposedly serious figures to start advancing particularly pathetic 'theories' about Ms Harris's eligibility for the presidency on the basis of her parents' places of birth, or as some sort of prescient jocular commentary on the likelihood that such loopy 'theories' would be forthcoming within the subsequent 48 hours.

Really, I didn't see that coming.

[Shofercia]

...Cali already had one muscled movie star in the hot seat, we don't need another.

We're not going to do one of those goofy 145 people elections to give him a chance again.

HJTA said that they'll work to recall Newsom if he supports Prop 15, and they certainly have the support to get it done.

[Diopolis]

That doesn't change the fact that AOC literally cannot be Vice President.

Yep, it's already been addressed:

Fair enough, and I never insisted that it had to be AOC, so what about someone like AOC, but older? Any genuine progressive with a record of candor will do.

I'm not sure that the dems have to rally the progs. They've always seemed to be more a coalition of identity groups and strongly identity-aligned interest groups than the GOP(which is a coalition of diverse ideological groups). Thus to balance the ticket for all the different democrats, demographics is more important than ideology.
I don't dispute that Kamala herself may not have been a good choice. But the idea of picking a negress was not in itself terrible.

[-Astoria-]

But the idea of picking a negress was not in itself terrible.

Whoa there; you might want to reword that...

[Elwher]

But the idea of picking a negress was not in itself terrible.

Whoa there; you might want to reword that...

I quite agree. As a subordinate clause, it should have been separated from the main clause by a comma, or perhaps a semi-colon, but not put in a separate sentence. As a rule, starting a sentence with a conjunction is not a good idea.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Establish a truth and reconciliation commission regarding the crimes of the Trump administration and Donald Trump as a person and investigate them down to their blood type.

Do that, and I'll support Biden.

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Establish a truth and reconciliation commission regarding the crimes of the Trump administration and Donald Trump as a person and investigate them down to their blood type.

Do that, and I'll support Biden.

I would love to see that, but I don't have high hopes.

As Noam Chomsky once said: "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, every post-war US President would be hanged."

[Telconi]

As an aside, the Rock is considering a run for California Governorship.

...Cali already had one muscled movie star in the hot seat, we don't need another.

Given what we've had since, we really really could.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Nope, as long as you don't have a problem with Republicans remembering your choice when the next primary rolls around. If you make the DNC the party of neolibs & neocons, then America would have no choice but to have a third party, and I certainly wouldn't mind that.

Imagine thinking the Democrats are somehow the party of the neolibs and neocons.

The party that supported the iraq war till it was unpopular, and aided syrian rebels and supported bombing Libya is very much neo liberal outside of imagination land where they're communists.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Establish a truth and reconciliation commission regarding the crimes of the Trump administration and Donald Trump as a person and investigate them down to their blood type.

Do that, and I'll support Biden.

I would love to see that, but I don't have high hopes.

As Noam Chomsky once said: "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, every post-war US President would be hanged."

I dont have high hopes either but my chance of it happening is probably better under Biden than under Trump.

[Fedel]

I would love to see that, but I don't have high hopes.

As Noam Chomsky once said: "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, every post-war US President would be hanged."

I dont have high hopes either but my chance of it happening is probably better under Biden than under Trump.

So then your proclamation was really just "I want Biden to do this" and not "If Biden doesn't do this I won't vote for him."

Kind of defeats the purpose of what this thread is about tbh.

[Diopolis]

Whoa there; you might want to reword that...

I quite agree. As a subordinate clause, it should have been separated from the main clause by a comma, or perhaps a semi-colon, but not put in a separate sentence.

As long as made clear in context, it's fine. A sentence doesn't have to be a paragraph here.

As a rule, starting a sentence with a conjunction is not a good idea.

And yet, there is nothing inherently wrong with starting a sentence using a conjunction, as long as the context makes it clear what the following sentence is conjuncted to. For example, "As long as the context makes it clear what the following sentence is conjuncted to, there is nothing inherently wrong with starting a sentence with a conjunction.".

[Fahran]

I would love to see that, but I don't have high hopes.

As Noam Chomsky once said: "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, every post-war US President would be hanged."

The Nuremberg Laws were those things the Nazis implemented to persecute Jewish people...

[Kowani]

I would love to see that, but I don't have high hopes.

As Noam Chomsky once said: "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, every post-war US President would be hanged."

The Nuremberg Laws were those things the Nazis implemented to persecute Jewish people...

Chomsky was apparently referring to the Judgments made at Nuremberg.