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How do you plan to vote? (Someone asked for this poll)

Biden (because I support Biden)
106
8%
Biden (because he's the lesser of two evils)
254
19%
Trump (for some reason)
264
20%
Third Party (or Independent)
117
9%
Write-In (maybe Bernie)
33
2%
I don't know right now
33
2%
I don't know (but I am not voting for Biden and/or Trump)
27
2%
I don't plan to vote
31
2%
I am against electoral politics
49
4%
I can't vote (under voting age, not a citizen, disenfrancisement, etc...)
428
32%
 
Total votes : 1342

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Postby -Astoria- » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:42 pm

Fahran wrote:So Kamala Harris...?
Let's not.
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Postby Jabberwocky » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:46 pm

Harris will scare right wingers. A black woman. But those who will be frightened off are already trump supporters
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Postby Fahran » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:51 pm

Jabberwocky wrote:Harris will scare right wingers. A black woman. But those who will be frightened off are already trump supporters

A lot of the problem is that she may scare off strong advocates for criminal justice reform, policing reform, and other progressive issues.

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Postby West Tropico » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:22 pm

Politics aside, Biden, like Trump, is a racist and probable rapist. Unlike Trump, he's almost certainly senile and I'm not totally convinced that he won't just die in office. (Or be 'suicided', for that matter)
No, a vote for Biden is a vote for his VP and nothing else and that's not how the system (should) work.

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Postby Asle Leopolka » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:24 pm

Fahran wrote:
Jabberwocky wrote:Harris will scare right wingers. A black woman. But those who will be frightened off are already trump supporters

A lot of the problem is that she may scare off strong advocates for criminal justice reform, policing reform, and other progressive issues.

She has a lot of baggage from her time as the Cali AG. Couple that with Biden's "If you vote for Trump you ain't black" gaffe and the GOP will have an extremely easy time of painting the Dems of preaching one thing but practicing another.

West Tropico wrote:Politics aside, Biden, like Trump, is a racist and probable rapist. Unlike Trump, he's almost certainly senile and I'm not totally convinced that he won't just die in office. (Or be 'suicided', for that matter)
No, a vote for Biden is a vote for his VP and nothing else and that's not how the system (should) work.

Bingo. This isn't Biden vs Trump, it's Harris vs Pence. Pick your poison.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:25 pm

Fahran wrote:
Jabberwocky wrote:Harris will scare right wingers. A black woman. But those who will be frightened off are already trump supporters

A lot of the problem is that she may scare off strong advocates for criminal justice reform, policing reform, and other progressive issues.


And who are they gonna vote for instead?

:lol:
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Postby Asle Leopolka » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:25 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Fahran wrote:A lot of the problem is that she may scare off strong advocates for criminal justice reform, policing reform, and other progressive issues.


And who are they gonna vote for instead?

:lol:

Trump won in 2016 as a result of people sitting out.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:26 pm

Asle Leopolka wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
And who are they gonna vote for instead?

:lol:

Trump won in 2016 as a result of people sitting out.


I'd argue that he won because of the electoral college system. But sure...
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Postby West Tropico » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:27 pm

Picairn wrote:
MGTOWia wrote:Translation: Biden listens to experts I agree with. Trump listens to experts I disagree with.

We'll see soon enough whose mentality isn't so good.

Which expert told him that the virus was gonna "disappear like a miracle"?


Counterpoint: The WHO still hasn't updated their site, and it still says that the kung-flu isn't contagious. Should he have listened to the Wuhan Health Organization when they said it wasn't human transmissible?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:29 pm

West Tropico wrote:
Picairn wrote:Which expert told him that the virus was gonna "disappear like a miracle"?


Counterpoint: The WHO still hasn't updated their site, and it still says that the kung-flu isn't contagious. Should he have listened to the Wuhan Health Organization when they said it wasn't human transmissible?


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Postby Shofercia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:29 pm

Biden chose Harris... wow, just wow. Trump might actually have a chance now. The meme of Democrats shooting themselves in the foot continues. Val Demmings would've been a better choice.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:30 pm

West Tropico wrote:Politics aside, Biden, like Trump, is a racist and probable rapist. Unlike Trump, he's almost certainly senile and I'm not totally convinced that he won't just die in office. (Or be 'suicided', for that matter)
No, a vote for Biden is a vote for his VP and nothing else and that's not how the system (should) work.


... He's 3 years older than Trump, and skinnier, and more coherent. I seriously doubt he's going to die.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:31 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Fahran wrote:A lot of the problem is that she may scare off strong advocates for criminal justice reform, policing reform, and other progressive issues.


And who are they gonna vote for instead?

:lol:


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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:31 pm

Shofercia wrote:Biden chose Harris... wow, just wow. Trump might actually have a chance now. The meme of Democrats shooting themselves in the foot continues. Val Demmings would've been a better choice.

Actually I think Demings would have been worse. Not much worse, but worse for sure.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:32 pm

Shofercia wrote:Biden chose Harris... wow, just wow. Trump might actually have a chance now. The meme of Democrats shooting themselves in the foot continues. Val Demmings would've been a better choice.

Wait come on your not serious, he did not announce it, clearly the media must be lying to us right.... right... tell me I'm right?

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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:32 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Biden chose Harris... wow, just wow. Trump might actually have a chance now. The meme of Democrats shooting themselves in the foot continues. Val Demmings would've been a better choice.

Wait come on your not serious, he did not announce it, clearly the media must be lying to us right.... right... tell me I'm right?

Now that you mentioned it I haven't gotten a text or email from Biden and I signed up for both so
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Postby West Tropico » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:34 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
West Tropico wrote:
Counterpoint: The WHO still hasn't updated their site, and it still says that the kung-flu isn't contagious. Should he have listened to the Wuhan Health Organization when they said it wasn't human transmissible?


If you are trying to be edgy, it needs work.


You can't blame Trump for something you give the other side a pass for. The virus should have and could have stopped at China. It's high time that people understand this.

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Postby Agarntrop » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:34 pm

Holy fuck Kamala what a dumb choice.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:35 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Wait come on your not serious, he did not announce it, clearly the media must be lying to us right.... right... tell me I'm right?

Now that you mentioned it I haven't gotten a text or email from Biden and I signed up for both so


I got both, a text and email from my sources, and looked it up. It's true. Fuck, at this rate I'm going to run out of popcorn. If I gain five pounds as a result of this election... I know - I'll replace beer with wine!
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Postby Asle Leopolka » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:35 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:Trump won in 2016 as a result of people sitting out.


I'd argue that he won because of the electoral college system. But sure...

The anti-Clinton non-voters in the rust belt gave Donald the EC votes he needed to secure the win.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:36 pm

Agarntrop wrote:Holy fuck Kamala what a dumb choice.


Will he be busing her to the presidency in 2024?

Edit: maybe choosing Kamala Harris was the Democrats' version of Affirmative Action favoring white males who messed up the COVID-19 reponse.

This election is going to be memetastic.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:37 pm

Asle Leopolka wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
I'd argue that he won because of the electoral college system. But sure...

The anti-Clinton non-voters in the rust belt gave Donald the EC votes he needed to secure the win.


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Postby West Tropico » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:37 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
West Tropico wrote:Politics aside, Biden, like Trump, is a racist and probable rapist. Unlike Trump, he's almost certainly senile and I'm not totally convinced that he won't just die in office. (Or be 'suicided', for that matter)
No, a vote for Biden is a vote for his VP and nothing else and that's not how the system (should) work.


... He's 3 years older than Trump, and skinnier, and more coherent. I seriously doubt he's going to die.

Have you seen pictures of him or listened to him talk? He looks like a warmed-up corpse and sounds like a confused manatee.
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Postby Nuroblav » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:38 pm

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Postby Outer Acharet » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:39 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:Trump won in 2016 as a result of people sitting out.


I'd argue that he won because of the electoral college system. But sure...

Everything I saw suggested it was a combination of centrists being disgusted with either choice and far-right voters being galvanized into greater turnout.
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