What Would It Take for You to Vote for Biden?

[Centai Mal]

All I know is that y'all drank the Kool-Aid and have not once looked at Biden's site.

[South Odreria 2]

The entire point of his campaign was to block needed change from happening lol.
Also, Appalachians trapped in poverty for generations aren't marginalized apparently if they're white. I feel like I'm taking the bait on a parody account.

Appalachia is not what I'd dub "white progressives" based on the fact they're overwhelmingly not progressives, but they are absolutely marginalized. I feel like it's at a point where I'd consider them a cultural minority of sorts

Your political beliefs don't determine how marginalized you are lmao

[The Two Jerseys]

Appalachia is not what I'd dub "white progressives" based on the fact they're overwhelmingly not progressives, but they are absolutely marginalized. I feel like it's at a point where I'd consider them a cultural minority of sorts

Your political beliefs don't determine how marginalized you are lmao

But apparently they do determine which group it's okay for politicians to ignore.

[South Odreria 2]

Your political beliefs don't determine how marginalized you are lmao

But apparently they do determine which group it's okay for politicians to ignore.

Anyone with pro-worker economic views is probably a millionaire, definitely a toxic white male, and it is impossible for them to face any challenges in life.
Anyone remotely conservative is also a white millionaire and has no difficulties whatsoever unless they are in the process of starving to death, in which case they become about half as marginalized as Pete Buttigieg. Centrists are all completely marginalized, no one listens to them, they are openly killed in the streets and it is a crime to provide shelter to them. Each is an even mix of every race except white.

[Fahran]

I don't want him to pick Bernie, what I'm saying is "hispanics that Biden needs to convince" and "wicked bernie bros that Biden needs to convince" are substantially the same group of people.

Despite the overlap between white progressives and left-leaning Latinos when it comes to supporting Bernie, I believe it would be a mistake to assume that this means they have the exact same political, social, and economic interests. On social issues especially, Latinos in the US tend to vote a bit more conservatively than white progressives. My point wasn't to castigate Bernie supporters there. It was to emphasize that their support is probably less important and less material than the support of other demographics. Ideally, if you can win both groups, you strive to do so.

Also, Hillary ran a "perfectly fine campaign?" "Sophisticated Russian disinformation and propaganda campaign?" Kamala would make leftwingers happy? Whoever wrote that article is an idiot.

Yeah, the media bubble around Hillary has always been pure cringe.

[Fahran]

But apparently they do determine which group it's okay for politicians to ignore.

You shouldn't set out to ignore any group but, if you're building a coalition, you might want to emphasize larger and more easily accessible groups over groups that might never support you at all. Biden, in my estimation, doesn't have the charisma or the populist appeal to sway voters down in Texas or diehard Bernie Bros - at least not on his own. So he has to piece together a viable coalition in the best way possible. He definitely shouldn't pull a Romney or Clinton and publicly castigate voters who probably won't vote for him.

[Galloism]

. He definitely shouldn't pull a Romney or Clinton and publicly castigate voters who probably won't vote for him.

Tbh, his supporters are already on the job - here anyway.

[Fahran]

Tbh, his supporters are already on the job - here anyway.

This merely reinforces the point that Trump doesn't have to win - the Democrats just have to lose again.

[Galloism]

Tbh, his supporters are already on the job - here anyway.

This merely reinforces the point that Trump doesn't have to win - the Democrats just have to lose again.

Where did I put my noose....

[South Odreria 2]

I don't want him to pick Bernie, what I'm saying is "hispanics that Biden needs to convince" and "wicked bernie bros that Biden needs to convince" are substantially the same group of people.

Despite the overlap between white progressives and left-leaning Latinos when it comes to supporting Bernie, I believe it would be a mistake to assume that this means they have the exact same political, social, and economic interests. On social issues especially, Latinos in the US tend to vote a bit more conservatively than white progressives.

That’s all true, but it doesn’t have that much bearing on who Biden’s running mate should be. Whoever it is isn’t going to fulfill anyone’s social or economic interests, so they pretty much just need to (A) stay out of trouble and (B) not be a middle finger to Bernie supporters.
Those are both things a running mate is capable of doing, and I don’t think the other things are.

[Galloism]

All I know is that y'all drank the Kool-Aid and have not once looked at Biden's site.

Actually I’ve read it top to bottom. Admittedly that was a couple months ago. I’m sure it was updated since then.

[South Odreria 2]

. He definitely shouldn't pull a Romney or Clinton and publicly castigate voters who probably won't vote for him.

Tbh, his supporters are already on the job - here anyway.

So is he...

[Blargoblarg]

All I know is that y'all drank the Kool-Aid and have not once looked at Biden's site.

I'm not sure why I should trust what the Biden campaign claims he'll support on his site when instead I can look at his political record going back decades and see what policies he's actually supported.

[New haven america]

But apparently they do determine which group it's okay for politicians to ignore.

You shouldn't set out to ignore any group but, if you're building a coalition, you might want to emphasize larger and more easily accessible groups over groups that might never support you at all. Biden, in my estimation, doesn't have the charisma or the populist appeal to sway voters down in Texas or diehard Bernie Bros - at least not on his own. So he has to piece together a viable coalition in the best way possible. He definitely shouldn't pull a Romney or Clinton and publicly castigate voters who probably won't vote for him.

No democrat has the ability to really sway voters in Texas, it is a perpetually conservative state.

[Fahran]

No democrat has the ability to really sway voters in Texas, it is a perpetually conservative state.

Texas is a lot more purple than a lot of people assume. It's actually straight-up blue in places like Austin, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, and the Valley.

[South Odreria 2]

No democrat has the ability to really sway voters in Texas, it is a perpetually conservative state.

Texas is a lot more purple than a lot of people assume. It's actually straight-up blue in places like Austin, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, and the Valley.

Beto lost by two points, when Hispanic turnout was only average for a midterm.

[Galloism]

No democrat has the ability to really sway voters in Texas, it is a perpetually conservative state.

Texas is a lot more purple than a lot of people assume. It's actually straight-up blue in places like Austin, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, and the Valley.

And it’s been trending towards purple for a while.

2016 Hilary lost it by 9 points. That means I don’t think it’s in play for 2020, but 2024 or 2028 maybe.

[New haven america]

No democrat has the ability to really sway voters in Texas, it is a perpetually conservative state.

Texas is a lot more purple than a lot of people assume. It's actually straight-up blue in places like Austin, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, and the Valley.

And those areas don't make up the majority of where the population of Texas lives.

All the conservatives live in the small towns, suburbs, and ranches, and they do make up the majority of the population of the state.

[South Odreria 2]

Texas is a lot more purple than a lot of people assume. It's actually straight-up blue in places like Austin, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, and the Valley.

And those areas don't make up the majority of where the population of Texas lives.

All the conservatives live in the small towns, suburbs, and ranches, and they do make up the majority of the population of the state.

While this claim is related to the truth, it doesn’t actually say anything. Obviously more people vote Republican than Democrat in the state, that’s why Republicans win elections. But that’s changing and there’s no reason why Biden couldn’t win in November with some good luck.

[Gormwood]

Poor Appalachian whites?

"Let them write code!"

Telling a poor white person to check their privilege when you are living in a safe, suburban neighborhood or live in a gated community is beyond tone deaf.

So they should try to bring back Beautiful, Clean Coal instead.

[The Black Forrest]

You shouldn't set out to ignore any group but, if you're building a coalition, you might want to emphasize larger and more easily accessible groups over groups that might never support you at all. Biden, in my estimation, doesn't have the charisma or the populist appeal to sway voters down in Texas or diehard Bernie Bros - at least not on his own. So he has to piece together a viable coalition in the best way possible. He definitely shouldn't pull a Romney or Clinton and publicly castigate voters who probably won't vote for him.

No democrat has the ability to really sway voters in Texas, it is a perpetually conservative state.

Pssst. Ann Richards.....

[Rojava Free State]

Telling a poor white person to check their privilege when you are living in a safe, suburban neighborhood or live in a gated community is beyond tone deaf.

So they should try to bring back Beautiful, Clean Coal instead.

No, not at all.

The goal should be to bring new, energy efficient jobs to West Virginia. The goal has actually been...well, there is no goal really.

[Neanderthaland]

So they should try to bring back Beautiful, Clean Coal instead.

No, not at all.

The goal should be to bring new, energy efficient jobs to West Virginia. The goal has actually been...well, there is no goal really.

They're easily detracted. Watch:

Country Roads...

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Telling a poor white person to check their privilege when you are living in a safe, suburban neighborhood or live in a gated community is beyond tone deaf.

So they should try to bring back Beautiful, Clean Coal instead.

Is this supposed to be an argument?

[Fahran]

So they should try to bring back Beautiful, Clean Coal instead.

It's still better than telling people that you're going to kill their livelihood even if it's a pretty blatant lie.