What Would It Take for You to Vote for Biden?

[Shofercia]

Fair enough, and I never insisted that it had to be AOC, so what about someone like AOC, but older? Any genuine progressive with a record of candor will do.




If that's the case, then the poors should vote for a third party in massive numbers, which will make Democrats care.

Or better yet leave the DNC and form a Progressive Democratic Party, it'd be like Canada's NDP.

Which would make the American NDP a third party... I'm good with that. I'm thinking of the MFY Party: Murika - Fuck Yeah! This would be the official party song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk

Joking aside, isn't that what the Greens, and to a lesser extent, the Peace and Freedom Party in California are trying to do?

[Dresderstan]

Or better yet leave the DNC and form a Progressive Democratic Party, it'd be like Canada's NDP.

Which would make the American NDP a third party... I'm good with that. I'm thinking of the MFY Party: Murika - Fuck Yeah! This would be the official party song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk

Joking aside, isn't that what the Greens, and to a lesser extent, the Peace and Freedom Party in California are trying to do?

Actually some would argue the Libertarians are the third party and while all third parties have tried they've failed. What we need to do is break up the two parties, no more big tent Democrats on the Left and Republicans on the Right, make them smaller, make it more factional, and it would be A) A lot more interesting and spice things up a lot, and B) could give smaller parties a chance to make an impact, moreso than they already do.

[Shofercia]

Which would make the American NDP a third party... I'm good with that. I'm thinking of the MFY Party: Murika - Fuck Yeah! This would be the official party song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk

Joking aside, isn't that what the Greens, and to a lesser extent, the Peace and Freedom Party in California are trying to do?

Actually some would argue the Libertarians are the third party and while all third parties have tried they've failed. What we need to do is break up the two parties, no more big tent Democrats on the Left and Republicans on the Right, make them smaller, make it more factional, and it would be A) A lot more interesting and spice things up a lot, and B) could give smaller parties a chance to make an impact, moreso than they already do.

The problem is the first past the post system, which enhances the duopoly. The voting system needs to change.

[Dresderstan]

Actually some would argue the Libertarians are the third party and while all third parties have tried they've failed. What we need to do is break up the two parties, no more big tent Democrats on the Left and Republicans on the Right, make them smaller, make it more factional, and it would be A) A lot more interesting and spice things up a lot, and B) could give smaller parties a chance to make an impact, moreso than they already do.

The problem is the first past the post system, which enhances the duopoly. The voting system needs to change.

Yes it does to a more proportional system akin to say Germany for example, plus I'd rather do away with the need of a President, and be more like a representative democracy instead, but that's just me.

[Bienenhalde]

Democrats literally could not have gone with AOC.

Democrats need to rally the Progressive Vote, and picking someone who has a record of dishonesty and mass incarceration, isn't going to accomplish that.

What about the anti-Trump moderates and conservatives? Do we get a say or are we just chopped liver? I would rather not vote for a presidential ticket with a far-left loony.

[Bienenhalde]

The problem is the first past the post system, which enhances the duopoly. The voting system needs to change.

Yes it does to a more proportional system akin to say Germany for example, plus I'd rather do away with the need of a President, and be more like a representative democracy instead, but that's just me.

What if we replaced the president with a king or queen?

[Thermodolia]

Yes it does to a more proportional system akin to say Germany for example, plus I'd rather do away with the need of a President, and be more like a representative democracy instead, but that's just me.

What if we replaced the president with a king or queen?

No. Fuck that

[Rusozak]

Democrats need to rally the Progressive Vote, and picking someone who has a record of dishonesty and mass incarceration, isn't going to accomplish that.

What about the anti-Trump moderates and conservatives? Do we get a say or are we just chopped liver? I would rather not vote for a presidential ticket with a far-left loony.

That's the tragedy of the two party system. You get Biden and Harris or Trump and Pence. You can also vote independent I guess, but, as The Simpsons put it:

[Dresderstan]

Yes it does to a more proportional system akin to say Germany for example, plus I'd rather do away with the need of a President, and be more like a representative democracy instead, but that's just me.

What if we replaced the president with a king or queen?

Make America British Again.

[Kowani]

Democrats need to rally the Progressive Vote, and picking someone who has a record of dishonesty and mass incarceration, isn't going to accomplish that.

What about the anti-Trump moderates and conservatives? Do we get a say or are we just chopped liver? I would rather not vote for a presidential ticket with a far-left loony.

The only "far-left loony" in American Politics is Joshua Collins, who got less votes than a dead guy.

EDIT: Fake news, none of the candidates were dead.

[Kannap]

What about the anti-Trump moderates and conservatives? Do we get a say or are we just chopped liver? I would rather not vote for a presidential ticket with a far-left loony.

That's the tragedy of the two party system. You get Biden and Harris or Trump and Pence. You can also vote independent I guess, but, as The Simpsons put it:

Yeah but that particular episode ends in the enslavement of the human race regardless of whether you vote for Kodos or Kang or third party.

[Bienenhalde]

What about the anti-Trump moderates and conservatives? Do we get a say or are we just chopped liver? I would rather not vote for a presidential ticket with a far-left loony.

That's the tragedy of the two party system. You get Biden and Harris or Trump and Pence. You can also vote independent I guess, but, as The Simpsons put it:

Harris is a bit further to the left than I would like, but at least she is better than Bernie or AOC.

[Kannap]

What about the anti-Trump moderates and conservatives? Do we get a say or are we just chopped liver? I would rather not vote for a presidential ticket with a far-left loony.

The only "far-left loony" in American Politics is Joshua Collins, who got less votes than a dead guy.

Who's the dead guy? I clicked all their names and Ballotpedia mentioned nothing about anybody being dead.

[Kowani]

The only "far-left loony" in American Politics is Joshua Collins, who got less votes than a dead guy.

Who's the dead guy? I clicked all their names and Ballotpedia mentioned nothing about anybody being dead.

...I knew I should've fact checked that one.

[North American Imperial State]

What if we replaced the president with a king or queen?

Make America British Again.

As a Brit, I support this

[Dresderstan]

What if we replaced the president with a king or queen?

No. Fuck that

Would you rather be an American Napoleon take control and make the American empire and spread across the continent?

[The Two Jerseys]

What if we replaced the president with a king or queen?

Make America British Again.

I demand a proper viceroy, not a ginger cuck married to a mediocre actress.

[Thermodolia]

No. Fuck that

Would you rather be an American Napoleon take control and make the American empire and spread across the continent?

Yes. So let’s just get this over with and crown me as Emperor of America

[Dresderstan]

Would you rather be an American Napoleon take control and make the American empire and spread across the continent?

Yes. So let’s just get this over with and crown me as Emperor of America

Okay, time to storm Le White House.

[Shofercia]

Democrats need to rally the Progressive Vote, and picking someone who has a record of dishonesty and mass incarceration, isn't going to accomplish that.

What about the anti-Trump moderates and conservatives? Do we get a say or are we just chopped liver? I would rather not vote for a presidential ticket with a far-left loony.

You had a vote when you nominated Jeb in the 2016 primaries. He lost. Next Republican primary is 2024, where you'll again have a vote. You also got George Bush for eight years, which is more than the rest of us have, so you can stop the complaining.

Would you rather be an American Napoleon take control and make the American empire and spread across the continent?

Yes. So let’s just get this over with and crown me as Emperor of America

The weird thing is that you'd be a better choice than the offering of either major political party. You'd only be emperor for 4, maybe 8 years though.

[Dresderstan]

What about the anti-Trump moderates and conservatives? Do we get a say or are we just chopped liver? I would rather not vote for a presidential ticket with a far-left loony.

You had a vote when you nominated Jeb in the 2016 primaries. He lost. Next Republican primary is 2024, where you'll again have a vote. You also got George Bush for eight years, which is more than the rest of us have, so you can stop the complaining.

Yes. So let’s just get this over with and crown me as Emperor of America

The weird thing is that you'd be a better choice than the offering of either major political party. You'd only be emperor for 4, maybe 8 years though.

Nah make it for life until his enemies can try to defeat him.

[Shofercia]

You had a vote when you nominated Jeb in the 2016 primaries. He lost. Next Republican primary is 2024, where you'll again have a vote. You also got George Bush for eight years, which is more than the rest of us have, so you can stop the complaining.




The weird thing is that you'd be a better choice than the offering of either major political party. You'd only be emperor for 4, maybe 8 years though.

Nah make it for life until his enemies can try to defeat him.

"The Presidential Debates shall be conducted in the Thunderdome! Here's your host, Vince McMahon!"

As an aside, the Rock is considering a run for California Governorship.

[Bienenhalde]

What about the anti-Trump moderates and conservatives? Do we get a say or are we just chopped liver? I would rather not vote for a presidential ticket with a far-left loony.

You had a vote when you nominated Jeb in the 2016 primaries. He lost. Next Republican primary is 2024, where you'll again have a vote. You also got George Bush for eight years, which is more than the rest of us have, so you can stop the complaining.

Yes, and in 2020 we get to vote again, and many of us chose to support Biden or other moderate democrats. Do you have a problem with that?

[Galloism]

Make America British Again.

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I demand a proper viceroy, not a ginger cuck married to a mediocre actress.

Done.

[Panslavicland]

Biden basically had no chance of winning even before the VP pick but this effectively seals it.