What Would It Take for You to Vote for Biden?

by **Gormwood** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:20 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Elwher wrote:
I wanted to see Buttigieg and Hickenlooper on the ticket. Not for their policies, but for the possible slogan of "Make America Giggle Again"

The best should have been Al Franken and Jill Stein, for the lawn signs and bumper stickers alone.

They could have campaigned on fire prevention. "RRRRGH, FIRE BAD!!"

by **Cisairse** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:55 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Elwher wrote:
I wanted to see Buttigieg and Hickenlooper on the ticket. Not for their policies, but for the possible slogan of "Make America Giggle Again"

The best should have been Al Franken and Jill Stein, for the lawn signs and bumper stickers alone.

I agree with this completely.

by **Nobel Hobos 2** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:47 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:If Biden wins, the oldest president elected in American history will be 77. If Trump wins, it will be 74.I love Biden's smile, and when he and Obama stand together laughing, I want to brush my teeth.And trump will make me want to whistle.But trump was so rude that he said Biden was too old to know he was alive or dead.

An age he himself will attain in office, if he wins a second term.

Trump had a great idea. Both of them take a cognitive test. The same test at the same time. Live streamed.

by **Stylan** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:48 pm

Elwher wrote:
Slavakino wrote:If I was gonna vote for a Democrat I would have liked Gabbard

I wanted to see Buttigieg and Hickenlooper on the ticket. Not for their policies, but for the possible slogan of "Make America Giggle Again"

I want to see Buttigieg on the ticket so he can get funded by the CIA

by **Mirjt** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:48 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:If Biden wins, the oldest president elected in American history will be 77. If Trump wins, it will be 74.I love Biden's smile, and when he and Obama stand together laughing, I want to brush my teeth.And trump will make me want to whistle.But trump was so rude that he said Biden was too old to know he was alive or dead.

An age he himself will attain in office, if he wins a second term.

Trump had a great idea. Both of them take a cognitive test. The same test at the same time. Live streamed.

We need a benchmark for comparison.

by **Kowani** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:34 pm

Mirjt wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
An age he himself will attain in office, if he wins a second term.

Trump had a great idea. Both of them take a cognitive test. The same test at the same time. Live streamed.

We need a benchmark for comparison.

Dan Quayle.

by **The Rich Port** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:40 pm

IMO if Obama endorses Biden I will vote for him... At the same time, I think Democrats should hold him accountable, just as much as we held Obama accountable and of course our beloved current dear leader, Donald Trump.

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by **Neutraligon** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:44 pm

The Rich Port wrote:IMO if Obama endorses Biden I will vote for him... At the same time, I think Democrats should hold him accountable, just as much as we held Obama accountable and of course our beloved current dear leader, Donald Trump.

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Wait Obama has not endorsed him yet?

by **The Rich Port** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:45 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:IMO if Obama endorses Biden I will vote for him... At the same time, I think Democrats should hold him accountable, just as much as we held Obama accountable and of course our beloved current dear leader, Donald Trump.

barfing noises from sarcasm

Wait Obama has not endorsed him yet?

oh pfffft.

welp my other points still stand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-s3ANu4eMs

by **Blargoblarg** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:26 am

Alcala-Cordel wrote:Ugh. I hate Biden with a passion, but if I lived in a place that wasn't solidly blue I'd probably vote for him for harm reduction. I hate bourgeoisie electoralism, but there's a point where I just have to swallow my pride.

I live in a state that I'm pretty sure is a swing state, and I'm still probably going to vote for Howie Hawkins. Based on his terrible political record, his many rich and corporate donors, and his frequent lying, I don't trust that Biden would fight for any progressive policies that would benefit the working class in this country.

by **The Yellow Emperor** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:38 am

Who's your pick for the Vice-President pick for Biden's team? I hope Duckworth would be, but I doubt she would be picked.

by **Nobel Hobos 2** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:55 am

Mirjt wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
An age he himself will attain in office, if he wins a second term.

Trump had a great idea. Both of them take a cognitive test. The same test at the same time. Live streamed.

We need a benchmark for comparison.

Two benchmarks to be fair. Bill Clinton and George Bush.

by **Shanghai industrial complex** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:04 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Mirjt wrote:
We need a benchmark for comparison.

Two benchmarks to be fair. Bill Clinton and George Bush.

Yeah,they were born in the same year as trump.

by **Nobel Hobos 2** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:06 am

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Two benchmarks to be fair. Bill Clinton and George Bush.

Yeah,they were born in the same year as trump.

So satisfying to be right by accident! Thanks for pointing that out.

by **Outer Sparta** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:22 am

The Yellow Emperor wrote:Who's your pick for the Vice-President pick for Biden's team? I hope Duckworth would be, but I doubt she would be picked.

Warren or Bass.

by **Thermodolia** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:01 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
The Yellow Emperor wrote:Who's your pick for the Vice-President pick for Biden's team? I hope Duckworth would be, but I doubt she would be picked.

Warren or Bass.

Duckworth or Bass for me. I’d rather see Warren either remain in the senate or be the secretary of commerce

by **Kowani** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:43 pm

Step one: Not doing this.

by **Kannap** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:58 pm

Kowani wrote:Step one: Not doing this.

So does this mean he's not going to propose $1 trillion in new corporate taxes?

Nor "Stand up to the abuse of power by polluters who disproportionately harm communities of color and low-income communities ... The Biden Administration will take action against fossil fuel companies and other polluters who put profit over people and knowingly harm our environment and poison our communities’ air, land, and water, or conceal information regarding potential environmental and health risks.^[1]"?

Nor "he will demand that Congress enacts legislation in the first year of his presidency that: 1) establishes an enforcement mechanism that includes milestone targets no later than the end of his first term in 2025 ^[2]"?

What about when he brags about "In 2006, Senator Biden took executives from BP and Chevron to task for the subsidies going to the oil industry." ^[3] Is he not going to do that?

What about "checking the abuse of corporate power over labor and holding corporate executives personally accountable for violations of labor laws"? ^[4]

How about holding "corporations and executives personally accountable for interfering with organizing efforts and violating other labor laws" and "Biden will go beyond the PRO Act by enacting legislation to impose even stiffer penalties on corporations and to hold company executives personally liable when they interfere with organizing efforts, including criminally liable when their interference is intentional." ^[5]

Or "Aggressively pursue employers who violate labor laws, participate in wage theft, or cheat on their taxes by intentionally misclassifying employees as independent contractors ... He will enact legislation that makes worker misclassification a substantive violation of law under all federal labor, employment, and tax laws with additional penalties beyond those imposed for other violations." ^[6]

I'm disheartened already from continuing any further to see what other promises of his a stance of "is not going to require legislation — I’m not proposing any"is going to walk back on. If he's serious about this latest comment, I don't know how I'm expected to trust his promises so far or any of the promises written on his campaign website.

[1] [2] [3] Climate
[4] [5] [6] Empower Workers

by **Ors Might** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:25 pm

Kowani wrote:Step one: Not doing this.

..Yeah, not doing that would be a wonderful first step. Jesus.

iiWiki · by **Wahlid** » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:22 pm

BIDEN- not the president we deserve, but the president we need.

Biden intends to:

strategically combat COVID-19

raise the minimum wage

abolish the death penalty

tax carbon emissions

scrap past pot convictions

boost pay for teachers

protect low-income and frontline communities affected by pollutionetc.

How problematic are the candidates?
Biden: your drunk uncle
Trump: holey fuarking shiitte

by **Thermodolia** » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:04 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Kowani wrote:Step one: Not doing this.

..Yeah, not doing that would be a wonderful first step. Jesus.

Turns out the article is heavily biased, go figure

by **South Odreria 2** » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:12 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Ors Might wrote:..Yeah, not doing that would be a wonderful first step. Jesus.

Turns out the article is heavily biased, go figure

It’s biased towards the common man

by **Thermodolia** » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:14 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Turns out the article is heavily biased, go figure

It’s biased towards the common man

Nah Jacobin is hot garbage. Pravda is better

by **Picairn** » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:20 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Nah Jacobin is hot garbage. Pravda is better

Jacobin once downplayed a genocide to justify their hate for US interventions. https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobinmag/s ... 3284858882

Whether you agree with US interventions or not, downplaying a genocide is NOT okay.

by **Uiiop** » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:It’s biased towards the common man

Nah Jacobin is hot garbage. Pravda is better

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/jacobin/
Is it now?
The only evidence against that spin is an NSGers own optimism on who's lying to who.
Pretty much blind faith that "He both just lying only to his donors and he just means congress will do it on him."

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