What Would It Take for You to Vote for Biden?

[South Odreria 2]

I'm hoping Jeff Jackson runs in 2022. Also Tillis is the definition of generic R, and he really doesn't offer much to the table except as a rubber stamp for Trump, but even that doesn't distinguish him from the rest of the Senate GOP.

God no. Erica Smith would be a much better Senator than Jackson

Jeff Jackson is definitely not very attractive.

[Outer Sparta]

I'm hoping Jeff Jackson runs in 2022. Also Tillis is the definition of generic R, and he really doesn't offer much to the table except as a rubber stamp for Trump, but even that doesn't distinguish him from the rest of the Senate GOP.

God no. Erica Smith would be a much better Senator than Jackson

How did Erica Smith not get more recognition even though she's also a state senator?

[Jedi Council]

God no. Erica Smith would be a much better Senator than Jackson

Jeff Jackson is definitely not very attractive.

Not only does that not matter, I am not even sure it is true. He looks average enough to me.

Unless you are speaking attractive in the more abstract sense of politically attractive. Then I would not be sure, as I know nothing much about him having just read his name 5 minutes ago.

[Kannap]

God no. Erica Smith would be a much better Senator than Jackson

How did Erica Smith not get more recognition even though she's also a state senator?

I mean, I only know about Jeff Jackson now because I live near Charlotte. When I lived in Asheville, I had never heard of him. Recognition when you're in the state Senate seems to go as far as your constituency and maybe neighboring constituencies.

Smith definitely has more recognition now from just running for Senate, and she won 34% of the vote (Cunningham won 57%), she's definitely poised in a position to run again in 2022 and has a serious possibility of winning - though that depends on who Republicans put up for election since Burr isn't running again. She could've easily beaten Burr - or Tillis - if up against them. Here's hoping Republicans don't pick somebody particularly popular.

[South Odreria 2]

Jeff Jackson is definitely not very attractive.

Not only does that not matter, I am not even sure it is true. He looks average enough to me.

He is average in a way that I personally consider particularly mediocre.

[Kannap]

Jeff Jackson is definitely not very attractive.

Not only does that not matter, I am not even sure it is true. He looks average enough to me.

As you said, not that attractiveness of a politician matters, but as one would assume knowing me, I don't find Erica Smith attractive. Well, at least not what Ordreria was saying, I found her politics and stances attractive.

[The Black Forrest]

People vote based on endorsements?

You have be retarded to vote for someone based on an endorsement, let alone a celebrity endorsement.

It's very telling that Jim Clyburn's endorsement proved pivotal.

Hmmm? So if Ron Paul endorsed somebody; would you say the same?

[The Andromeda Island Group]

You have be retarded to vote for someone based on an endorsement, let alone a celebrity endorsement.

It's very telling that Jim Clyburn's endorsement proved pivotal.

Hmmm? So if Ron Paul endorsed somebody; would you say the same?

You don't get it Black Forrest. The same standards don't apply to Democrats and Republicans.

Bear Stearns pwned the libs with his comment. It doesn't matter is people on his side would follow an endorsement of a Ron Paul or a Donald Trump with even more messianic fervor than the Dems did when Jim Clyburn endorsed Joe Biden. Consistency takes a back seat to pwning the libs.

It seems that in the modern Republican Party, so many of our basic values take a back seat to pwning anyone who dare speaks ill of The Donald.

[Bear Stearns]

You have be retarded to vote for someone based on an endorsement, let alone a celebrity endorsement.

It's very telling that Jim Clyburn's endorsement proved pivotal.

Hmmm? So if Ron Paul endorsed somebody; would you say the same?

I've ignored Ron Paul's last couple of endorsements, so yeah.

[Claorica]

Become an actually faithful catholic by repudiating support for abortion and at the very least promising to protect the Hyde amendment, stop being a Neoliberal and adopt more populist and compassionate economics that isn't beholden to the fake wealth "manufacturers" of the financial sector, firmly emphasizing dedication to the subsidiarity principle (the idea that all political issues should be at the smallest level capable of dealing with them), promising to use the FCC, FTC, and SEC to start cracking down on massive megacorporations with monopolistic, duopolist, or oligopolistic positions in important consumer markets, especially when they directly engage in anti-competitive activities (looking at you Google, Facebook, and Amazon.)

Essentially, he would have to adopt the entire platform of the American Solidarity Party to earn my vote.

Thankfully I have the luxury of living in Missouri, a safe Trump state, so I can vote for who I actually believe would be the better leader for the country, rather than fretting about which of the two evils is lesser.

Imaging unironically believing that not wanting to outlaw something means you support it

Wanting to force people to fund it means that you support it, calling it an "essential service," means you support it.

And at the very least, Catholic theology sees no difference between carrying out an abortion and materially supporting it through political means.

[Thermodolia]

Dude me, Kannap, and Blargoblarg are in pretty safe states. A republican isn’t going to win RI, and it’s very unlikely that a democrat is going to win either GA or NC.

Also I’m sure our three collective votes will definitely change the election.

Isn't North Carolina a toss-up, lean R state and Georgia is a lean R state? Plus both have downballot Senate races and NC has Gov. Cooper's reelection this year.

Just because I won’t be voting for Biden doesn’t mean I’m not voting for the democrats at all

[West Leas Oros 2]

Watching the thread bootlick for Biden is seriously hurting my brain, and you know what? Fuck it. If they want to sell their souls to the system, that’s their decision. But if they want to demonize me for rejecting their shitty neoliberalism, that’s where my problem lies. Biden must be a great candidate for compromise, after all, he tries to convert centrists who probably would vote for him anyway, while discarding and ignoring the leftist democrats who he actually needs to worry about. The DNC needs to get it through their heads that we are way beyond the point of compromise and incremental “reform”. At this point, they have two choices, either realize the necessity of radical action, or face defeat and possible revolt. People are tired of corporate puppetry and crony candidacies, and if they continue their path, there will be chaos.

[Mirjt]

Watching the thread bootlick for Biden is seriously hurting my brain, and you know what? Fuck it. If they want to sell their souls to the system, that’s their decision. But if they want to demonize me for rejecting their shitty neoliberalism, that’s where my problem lies. Biden must be a great candidate for compromise, after all, he tries to convert centrists who probably would vote for him anyway, while discarding and ignoring the leftist democrats who he actually needs to worry about. The DNC needs to get it through their heads that we are way beyond the point of compromise and incremental “reform”. At this point, they have two choices, either realize the necessity of radical action, or face defeat and possible revolt. People are tired of corporate puppetry and crony candidacies, and if they continue their path, there will be chaos.

YES

[Dominioan]

Watching the thread bootlick for Biden is seriously hurting my brain, and you know what? Fuck it. If they want to sell their souls to the system, that’s their decision. But if they want to demonize me for rejecting their shitty neoliberalism, that’s where my problem lies. Biden must be a great candidate for compromise, after all, he tries to convert centrists who probably would vote for him anyway, while discarding and ignoring the leftist democrats who he actually needs to worry about. The DNC needs to get it through their heads that we are way beyond the point of compromise and incremental “reform”. At this point, they have two choices, either realize the necessity of radical action, or face defeat and possible revolt. People are tired of corporate puppetry and crony candidacies, and if they continue their path, there will be chaos.

Or maybe just stop being wimps and put up Sanders.

[Cisairse]

Imaging unironically believing that not wanting to outlaw something means you support it

Wanting to force people to fund it means that you support it, calling it an "essential service," means you support it.

And at the very least, Catholic theology sees no difference between carrying out an abortion and materially supporting it through political means.

Yes, and that is one of the dumb parts of Catholic theology.

Watching the thread bootlick for Biden is seriously hurting my brain, and you know what? Fuck it. If they want to sell their souls to the system, that’s their decision. But if they want to demonize me for rejecting their shitty neoliberalism, that’s where my problem lies. Biden must be a great candidate for compromise, after all, he tries to convert centrists who probably would vote for him anyway, while discarding and ignoring the leftist democrats who he actually needs to worry about. The DNC needs to get it through their heads that we are way beyond the point of compromise and incremental “reform”. At this point, they have two choices, either realize the necessity of radical action, or face defeat and possible revolt. People are tired of corporate puppetry and crony candidacies, and if they continue their path, there will be chaos.

You could transfer your little speech here into any presidential election year since like 1952 and it would be valid.

Fun fact: When your choice is reform or regression, you probably want to choose reform

[The Andromeda Island Group]

Watching the thread bootlick for Biden is seriously hurting my brain, and you know what? Fuck it. If they want to sell their souls to the system, that’s their decision. But if they want to demonize me for rejecting their shitty neoliberalism, that’s where my problem lies. Biden must be a great candidate for compromise, after all, he tries to convert centrists who probably would vote for him anyway, while discarding and ignoring the leftist democrats who he actually needs to worry about. The DNC needs to get it through their heads that we are way beyond the point of compromise and incremental “reform”. At this point, they have two choices, either realize the necessity of radical action, or face defeat and possible revolt. People are tired of corporate puppetry and crony candidacies, and if they continue their path, there will be chaos.

I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message!

[Thermodolia]

Wanting to force people to fund it means that you support it, calling it an "essential service," means you support it.

And at the very least, Catholic theology sees no difference between carrying out an abortion and materially supporting it through political means.

Yes, and that is one of the dumb parts of Catholic theology.

Watching the thread bootlick for Biden is seriously hurting my brain, and you know what? Fuck it. If they want to sell their souls to the system, that’s their decision. But if they want to demonize me for rejecting their shitty neoliberalism, that’s where my problem lies. Biden must be a great candidate for compromise, after all, he tries to convert centrists who probably would vote for him anyway, while discarding and ignoring the leftist democrats who he actually needs to worry about. The DNC needs to get it through their heads that we are way beyond the point of compromise and incremental “reform”. At this point, they have two choices, either realize the necessity of radical action, or face defeat and possible revolt. People are tired of corporate puppetry and crony candidacies, and if they continue their path, there will be chaos.

You could transfer your little speech here into any presidential election year since like 1952 and it would be valid.

Fun fact: When your choice is reform or regression, you probably want to choose reform

He’s right though. We need to stop this piecemeal little bits of reform. Obama squandered his first few years in office when the democrats controlled both chambers.

We need more radical action on things like Climate Change, Healthcare, homelessness, jobs, and other things. We can’t just keep comprising to the republicans.

If the democrats get both chambers again they need to ram down everything they can possibly think of to fix this nation

[Centai Mal]

Watching the thread bootlick for Biden is seriously hurting my brain, and you know what? Fuck it. If they want to sell their souls to the system, that’s their decision. But if they want to demonize me for rejecting their shitty neoliberalism, that’s where my problem lies. Biden must be a great candidate for compromise, after all, he tries to convert centrists who probably would vote for him anyway, while discarding and ignoring the leftist democrats who he actually needs to worry about. The DNC needs to get it through their heads that we are way beyond the point of compromise and incremental “reform”. At this point, they have two choices, either realize the necessity of radical action, or face defeat and possible revolt. People are tired of corporate puppetry and crony candidacies, and if they continue their path, there will be chaos.

I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message!

I still like how a bunch of people basically squatted in the Democratic Party and then whines when they didn’t get their way. At least the Tea Party actually manages to get some change in the Republican Party

[Outer Sparta]

Yes, and that is one of the dumb parts of Catholic theology.



You could transfer your little speech here into any presidential election year since like 1952 and it would be valid.

Fun fact: When your choice is reform or regression, you probably want to choose reform

He’s right though. We need to stop this piecemeal little bits of reform. Obama squandered his first few years in office when the democrats controlled both chambers.

We need more radical action on things like Climate Change, Healthcare, homelessness, jobs, and other things. We can’t just keep comprising to the republicans.

If the democrats get both chambers again they need to ram down everything they can possibly think of to fix this nation

Congressional Republicans do stuff like blocking Supreme Court appointments and other partisan actions and never compromise to the Dems. Why can't the Dems move their agenda through if they have control of all three chambers?

[Juristonia]

Watching the thread bootlick for Biden is seriously hurting my brain, and you know what? Fuck it. If they want to sell their souls to the system, that’s their decision. But if they want to demonize me for rejecting their shitty neoliberalism, that’s where my problem lies. Biden must be a great candidate for compromise, after all, he tries to convert centrists who probably would vote for him anyway, while discarding and ignoring the leftist democrats who he actually needs to worry about. The DNC needs to get it through their heads that we are way beyond the point of compromise and incremental “reform”. At this point, they have two choices, either realize the necessity of radical action, or face defeat and possible revolt. People are tired of corporate puppetry and crony candidacies, and if they continue their path, there will be chaos.

I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message!

"Anything I don't like means that Trump wins"

[Sundiata]

He needs to support the legislation that would make lynching a federal hate-crime.

[Kannap]

Watching the thread bootlick for Biden is seriously hurting my brain, and you know what? Fuck it. If they want to sell their souls to the system, that’s their decision. But if they want to demonize me for rejecting their shitty neoliberalism, that’s where my problem lies. Biden must be a great candidate for compromise, after all, he tries to convert centrists who probably would vote for him anyway, while discarding and ignoring the leftist democrats who he actually needs to worry about. The DNC needs to get it through their heads that we are way beyond the point of compromise and incremental “reform”. At this point, they have two choices, either realize the necessity of radical action, or face defeat and possible revolt. People are tired of corporate puppetry and crony candidacies, and if they continue their path, there will be chaos.

Or maybe just stop being wimps and put up Sanders.

Unfortunately, Sanders lost the primary, best to move on.

[Thermodolia]

He’s right though. We need to stop this piecemeal little bits of reform. Obama squandered his first few years in office when the democrats controlled both chambers.

We need more radical action on things like Climate Change, Healthcare, homelessness, jobs, and other things. We can’t just keep comprising to the republicans.

If the democrats get both chambers again they need to ram down everything they can possibly think of to fix this nation

Congressional Republicans do stuff like blocking Supreme Court appointments and other partisan actions and never compromise to the Dems. Why can't the Dems move their agenda through if they have control of all three chambers?

Exactly my point. The republicans don’t give a shit about compromise so why should the democrats?

[Fahran]

Exactly my point. The republicans don’t give a shit about compromise so why should the democrats?

Compromise is a useful tool when you lack an absolute advantage in terms of political capital or when you lack absolute faith in the efficacy of your platform and want to hedge you bets so as not to diminish your political capital.

[Major-Tom]

I think that I'll simply pretend that Joe Biden is just as bad as Donald Trump and vote for a third party candidate with no chance of winning.

Then, when Donald Trump's margin of victory in my state is much smaller than the number of votes for third-party candidates, I'll still have my principles. Nevermind that me and my third-party cohorts could have supported Joe Biden and helped him win my state. I've got my principles.

Perhaps after that, I'll choke under the weight of my own smugness.

Dude me, Kannap, and Blargoblarg are in pretty safe states. A republican isn’t going to win RI, and it’s very unlikely that a democrat is going to win either GA or NC.

Also I’m sure our three collective votes will definitely change the election.

To be totally fair, both NC and GA aren't "safe Republican states" by any metric. Leaning GOP, sure, but they have the potential to break R. I understand completely why you and Kannap have no desire to vote Biden, though it is worth noting that your respective states are going to be competitive.