As would I. Which is why I’m voting Green this time around
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by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 4:59 pm
by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:00 pm
by Glamour » Fri May 22, 2020 5:01 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Glamour wrote:
I am aware of that. But the question is still valid, in that if Trump wins in 2020, the Supreme Court will have a conservative majority under a Trump presidency, and if another Trump appointee is confirmed because one of the liberal justices dies, then as I said, because they are lifetime appointees, a majority of two will be irreversible for a generation.
Do you believe that should be the case, and especially under a Trump presidency? P.S. This is an entirely domestic US issue (the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court) and I am not a US citizen, so I don't particularly care. I am just curious.
I really don’t care if the court is liberal or not. It’s pretty good as it stands anyway
by Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Fri May 22, 2020 5:01 pm
by New haven america » Fri May 22, 2020 5:02 pm
by Glamour » Fri May 22, 2020 5:02 pm
Glamour wrote:Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:
TPP was a counterpoint to Chinese expansionism, it’s not the same as free trade.
Also, Brexit was trade nationalism, and as a result the UK could join the TPP and trade with the US (incorpirating NAFTA), while avoiding the potential fate of the EU, where becoming a Chinese puppet because of the Belt and Road initiative is a possibility. Therefore, trade nationalism in today's world encourages free trade. We have the technology.
by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:02 pm
by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:04 pm
by Glamour » Fri May 22, 2020 5:04 pm
by New haven america » Fri May 22, 2020 5:06 pm
by Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Fri May 22, 2020 5:06 pm
by Wizlandia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:06 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Wizlandia wrote:Because pretty much all economists agree free trade is good. Considering both the economic and geopolitical benefits of the TPP, Trump pulling out it will be one of his worst legacies as president.
Free trade is absolute garbage that only hurts the working class while exploiting poorer nations and their workers. It’s a bunch of neoliberal bullshit
by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:07 pm
Glamour wrote:Thermodolia wrote:I live in Georgia. Besides even if I did live in a swing state it wouldn’t matter because my vote is about what I want and not what others want
So you are voting for the Green party but you have no issue with a two-justice majority for the conservatives in the Supreme Court for a generation, starting under a second-term Trump presidency this year?
How does that make any sense?
by Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Fri May 22, 2020 5:07 pm
by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:08 pm
New haven america wrote:Thermodolia wrote:
Progressive social issues being crushed isn’t the end of all left wing policies. Besides I really don’t care what a liberal like yourself thinks about really anything
lol, I'm not a liberal, so get a new buzzword or go home.
4 years and you can't come up with a new buzzword or insult, how sad. I thought liberals were supposed to be the most uncreative political group?
by Kannap » Fri May 22, 2020 5:08 pm
Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:New haven america wrote:Ok, so you're fine with the death of left-wing policies in the nation, good to know.
I don’t think having a contrary opinion = the death of left-wing policies in the nation. How do you know he won’t support the Communication Workers’ strike next year? I don’t think the future of left-wing policies in America should hinge on guilting everyone who’s not already onboard with your party into... I don’t know. A state of enlightened guilt? It seems so futile.
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by Kannap » Fri May 22, 2020 5:09 pm
Thermodolia wrote:New haven america wrote:lol, I'm not a liberal, so get a new buzzword or go home.
4 years and you can't come up with a new buzzword or insult, how sad. I thought liberals were supposed to be the most uncreative political group?
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck....
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by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:09 pm
Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:Thermodolia wrote:I live in Georgia. Besides even if I did live in a swing state it wouldn’t matter because my vote is about what I want and not what others want
I don’t really agree with that, I believe people should vote for group (class) interests not personal interests.
by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:10 pm
Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:New haven america wrote:Ok, so you're fine with the death of left-wing policies in the nation, good to know.
I don’t think having a contrary opinion = the death of left-wing policies in the nation. How do you know he won’t support the Communication Workers’ strike next year? I don’t think the future of left-wing policies in America should hinge on guilting everyone who’s not already onboard with your party into... I don’t know. A state of enlightened guilt? It seems so futile.
by Glamour » Fri May 22, 2020 5:11 pm
Thermodolia wrote:New haven america wrote:lol, I'm not a liberal, so get a new buzzword or go home.
4 years and you can't come up with a new buzzword or insult, how sad. I thought liberals were supposed to be the most uncreative political group?
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck....
by New haven america » Fri May 22, 2020 5:11 pm
Thermodolia wrote:New haven america wrote:lol, I'm not a liberal, so get a new buzzword or go home.
4 years and you can't come up with a new buzzword or insult, how sad. I thought liberals were supposed to be the most uncreative political group?
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck....
by New haven america » Fri May 22, 2020 5:15 pm
Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:New haven america wrote:Ok, so you're fine with the death of left-wing policies in the nation, good to know.
I don’t think having a contrary opinion = the death of left-wing policies in the nation. How do you know he won’t support the Communication Workers’ strike next year? I don’t think the future of left-wing policies in America should hinge on guilting everyone who’s not already onboard with your party into... I don’t know. A state of enlightened guilt? It seems so futile.
by Mirjt » Fri May 22, 2020 5:16 pm
New haven america wrote:Thermodolia wrote:You mean the election that was clearly rigged in Hillary’s favor? 1. Also he had quite a bit of broad support of the ages groups in several states. 2. The young didn’t watch the news that blasted Sanders, the older voters did.
1. He did not.
2. No, the young spent most of their times on sites like Reddit that were posting daily pro-Sanders propaganda saying he'd be a shoo in and get a landslide victory the likes of which the nation has never seen.
And then he didn't because the youth vote didn't go out and vote, which lost him several important elections like ST, as well as having an idiot campaign team spending most of their time attacking most of the other candidates and earning him no mutual favor there. But unlike a lot of his supports he took the L like an adult and said "Eh, better luck next time, vote for my friend Joe to keep Trump from getting a second term."
In this case he has no one else to blame for his loss but himself, and he admits that. It's his hardcore supporters who still don't get that.
by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:18 pm
If you are fine with a conservative majority on the Supreme Court and a Trump presidency, you will be living in a right-wing authoritarian state, potentially irreversibly.
Just because someone has told you that liberalism is not the exact same thing as leftism (which is true, because they exist along different axes) does not mean that a right-wing authoritarian state is going to help you if you are voting for the Green party because you are a leftist. Quite the opposite.
by Thermodolia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:19 pm
New haven america wrote:Thermodolia wrote:If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck....
lol, if you went by that logic you'd be calling me a progressive or socialist. Or from a right-wing POV, a left-wing authoritarian much like yourself.
Again, more uncreative shit that's been repeated 1,000 times. Get new material please, you're boring me.
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