Are all Nazis racists?

[Atheris]

It was, at least under Stalin (ironically), a Russian nationalist state. Stalin was trying to recreate the borders of the Russian Empire, for God's sake.

Right

Point is nationalism has no political leaning

I wouldn't say nationalism itself has no political leaning, just that nationalist movements are mostly more inherently right-wing rather than left-wing.

[Nazeroth]

Right

Point is nationalism has no political leaning

I wouldn't say nationalism itself has no political leaning, just that nationalist movements are mostly more inherently right-wing rather than left-wing.

Just about every far left power to rise in the world has demonstrated to be nationalist

The USSR, North Korea, China(under mao), Cuba, etc etc

The only one i can think of is maybe cambodia but they were on some other shit.

[Atheris]

I wouldn't say nationalism itself has no political leaning, just that nationalist movements are mostly more inherently right-wing rather than left-wing.

Just about every far left power to rise in the world has demonstrated to be nationalist

The USSR, North Korea, China(under mao), Cuba, etc etc

The only one i can think of is maybe cambodia but they were on some other shit.

The USSR after 1953 wasn't nationalist as much as it was internationalist. Likewise with Cuba after the Cuban Missile Crisis, or Laos at all. Vietnam is a blend of nationalism and socialism, but not inherently one or the other. Maoist China wasn't inherently nationalist either, it was just patriotic. The only hardline nationalist left-wing powers I can think of in the world are/were Romania, the Stalinist USSR, and North Korea (though I hesitate to call them left-wing).

[Nazeroth]

Just about every far left power to rise in the world has demonstrated to be nationalist

The USSR, North Korea, China(under mao), Cuba, etc etc

The only one i can think of is maybe cambodia but they were on some other shit.

The USSR after 1953 wasn't nationalist as much as it was internationalist. Likewise with Cuba after the Cuban Missile Crisis, or Laos at all. Vietnam is a blend of nationalism and socialism, but not inherently one or the other. Maoist China wasn't inherently nationalist either, it was just patriotic. The only hardline nationalist left-wing powers I can think of in the world are/were Romania, the Stalinist USSR, and North Korea (though I hesitate to call them left-wing).

Well blendsd or not you just admitted vietnam was nationalist, and cuba AFTER the crisis

Point is, they were all or mosty all nationalist at one point.

[Atheris]

The USSR after 1953 wasn't nationalist as much as it was internationalist. Likewise with Cuba after the Cuban Missile Crisis, or Laos at all. Vietnam is a blend of nationalism and socialism, but not inherently one or the other. Maoist China wasn't inherently nationalist either, it was just patriotic. The only hardline nationalist left-wing powers I can think of in the world are/were Romania, the Stalinist USSR, and North Korea (though I hesitate to call them left-wing).

Well blendsd or not you just admitted vietnam was nationalist, and cuba AFTER the crisis

Point is, they were all or mosty all nationalist at one point.

Ah, shit. I meant Cuba before the October Crisis. My bad.

Still, socialism itself is inherently internationalist. These states, for most of their socialist lives, were internationalist.

[Nazeroth]

Well blendsd or not you just admitted vietnam was nationalist, and cuba AFTER the crisis

Point is, they were all or mosty all nationalist at one point.

Ah, shit. I meant Cuba before the October Crisis. My bad.

Still, socialism itself is inherently internationalist. These states, for most of their socialist lives, were internationalist.

Well that wasnt what i said, i didnt say there whole lives

And i agree socialism is inherently internationalist...until they want to take something then instead of “for the nation” its “ for the revolution” which is semantics at that point.

[Prushassia]

Lol we aint baddies

[West Leas Oros 2]

Lol we aint baddies

You’re side killed millions of people because “da jooz bad”, supported totalitarianism and oppression, started a world war, and its entire premise is based on ideas like extermination of lesser races and a cult of personality under the state and its infallible dictator, who need I remind you, organized one of the most infamous genocides in history and even killed most of his own allies. But you aren’t the bad guys.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Lol we aint baddies

When your ideology directly caused the deadliest and most destructive conflict in human history that left upwards of 70-100 million dead and deliberately genocided countless millions of those then you were most definitely the baddies.

[Salus Maior]

Lol we aint baddies

You’re side killed millions of people because “da jooz bad”, supported totalitarianism and oppression, started a world war, and its entire premise is based on ideas like extermination of lesser races and a cult of personality under the state and its infallible dictator, who need I remind you, organized one of the most infamous genocides in history and even killed most of his own allies. But you aren’t the bad guys.

He was there like 75+ years ago?

Also wrong use of "you're".

[The of Japan]

Lol we aint baddies

https://imgur.com/t/doubt/e6TAhcY

[West Leas Oros 2]

You’re side killed millions of people because “da jooz bad”, supported totalitarianism and oppression, started a world war, and its entire premise is based on ideas like extermination of lesser races and a cult of personality under the state and its infallible dictator, who need I remind you, organized one of the most infamous genocides in history and even killed most of his own allies. But you aren’t the bad guys.

He was there like 75+ years ago?

Also wrong use of "you're".

Ok fine, grammar nazi, he wasn’t there at the time. Still, he’s defending literal Nazis, which is pretty fucking terrible.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Lol we aint baddies

https://imgur.com/t/doubt/e6TAhcY

*furiously mashes button*

[West Leas Oros 2]

Lol we aint baddies

When your ideology directly caused the deadliest and most destructive conflict in human history that left upwards of 70-100 million dead and deliberately genocided countless millions of those then you were most definitely the baddies.

“B-bu-but, DA JOOZ R BAD !!!1!1!1,1!ONE!!!” -some idiot Nazi

[Salus Maior]

He was there like 75+ years ago?

Also wrong use of "you're".

Ok fine, grammar nazi, he wasn’t there at the time. Still, he’s defending literal Nazis, which is pretty fucking terrible.

He didn't say much of anything.

[The of Japan]

Ok fine, grammar nazi, he wasn’t there at the time. Still, he’s defending literal Nazis, which is pretty fucking terrible.

He didn't say much of anything.

what do you think "lol we aint baddies" meant?

[Salus Maior]

He didn't say much of anything.

what do you think "lol we aint baddies" meant?

That he doesn't know how to write sentences well.

Or he's trying to trigger a response.

[Saiwania]

I would say that Nazism is inherently racist in that it recognizes race, but I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing.

What people need to understand is that Nazism as Adolf Hitler envisioned it, is partially obsolete. It is no longer tenable, even if the social Darwinist and anti-semitic elements probably have to be kept for it to be still be classified as National Socialism. It remains true nonetheless, that modern neo-Nazism isn't and shouldn't be beholden to everything the Third Reich stood for. The ideology can be modified to better suit the changes that've taken place since the early 20th century.

If people want a Fourth Reich, it is necessary to modernize and make some tweaks to the platform. The Aryan race hypothesis has been debunked and is one of the tenants that can be discontinued. People have more knowledge of the origins of European peoples than the 19th century had. Hence why there is now more willingness to accept Slavs as White and why Slavs are more willing to go for neo-Nazism.

It matters not if neo-Nazis aren't exactly alike to how original Nazis were. What counts is that the movement has some continuity to it, but still has an ability to adapt to the changed world with a future path and governing solutions in mind.

[Nazeroth]

I would say that Nazism is inherently racist in that it recognizes race, but I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing.

What people need to understand is that Nazism as Adolf Hitler envisioned it, is partially obsolete. It is no longer tenable, even if the social Darwinist and anti-semitic elements probably have to be kept for it to be still be classified as National Socialism. It remains true nonetheless, that modern neo-Nazism isn't and shouldn't be beholden to everything the Third Reich stood for. The ideology can be modified to better suit the changes that've taken place since the early 20th century.

If people want a Fourth Reich, it is necessary to modernize and make some tweaks to the platform. The Aryan race hypothesis has been debunked and is one of the tenants that can be discontinued. People have more knowledge of the origins of European peoples than the 19th century had. Hence why there is now more willingness to accept Slavs as White and why Slavs are more willing to go for neo-Nazism.

It matters not if neo-Nazis aren't exactly alike to how original Nazis were. What counts is that the movement has some continuity to it, but still has an ability to adapt to the changed world with a future path and governing solutions in mind.

This is suprisingly well thought out.

[Green October Z]

There is a professor at my college that is a Nazi. She really hates Jews... and White people.

[West Leas Oros 2]

There is a professor at my college that is a Nazi. She really hates Jews... and White people.

This is beyond science.

[Rojava Free State]

There is a professor at my college that is a Nazi. She really hates Jews... and White people.

An anti white nazi? Are you sure she isn't just a plain old racist?

[Green October Z]

There is a professor at my college that is a Nazi. She really hates Jews... and White people.

This is beyond science.

We call her the Caribbean Nazi.

[Rojava Free State]

This is beyond science.

We call her the Caribbean Nazi.

She is a black woman?

[Green October Z]

We call her the Caribbean Nazi.

She is a black woman?

South Asian. She was born somewhere in the Caribbean. She is pretty strange. She basically considers all White people to be inherently evil and blames White people for all the ills of the world. However, as much as she hates White people she really sees them as puppets for the true villains, the Jews. She thinks that the Jews secretly rule the world and use White people as their puppets to do their bidding. She even thinks that Hitler staged the Holocaust just to make it look like the Jews and White people weren't secretly working together in this illuminati-like thing.

She once spoke of her ideal world looking like Nazi Germany, except with a "real holocaust" with the Jews and White people exterminated.