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Postby SangMar » Sun May 03, 2020 9:16 pm

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Heloin wrote:Your entire reason for claiming that calling themselves Arab Republics and use of Pan-Arabic symbols is racist is because you don't like Arabs or what seem Arabs do...

There's a slight problem with your argumentative skills.


no i think there racist for literally being racist and doing racist things like maintain black african slave trade, or in saudi arabias case, tantamount to indentured servitude, i call them racist because to THIS FUCKING DAY they still have violent sectarian, racial and ethnic violence plaguing their nations(often being SUPPORTED why whatever group is in charge at the time)

I would like to also inform you Muslim is not a race, it is a religion, you can be any race while converting to islam, this dosn't add or take away from your racial group just your religous affilitation.


Okay. Who is ‘there’? (Definitely wasn’t referring to all Arabs) Then something about Muslims. I don’t know whether someone made about them comment earlier, but you’re aware that these exist, right? Muslims =/= Arabs.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:17 pm

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no i think there racist for literally being racist and doing racist things like maintain black african slave trade, or in saudi arabias case, tantamount to indentured servitude, i call them racist because to THIS FUCKING DAY they still have violent sectarian, racial and ethnic violence plaguing their nations(often being SUPPORTED why whatever group is in charge at the time)

I would like to also inform you Muslim is not a race, it is a religion, you can be any race while converting to islam, this dosn't add or take away from your racial group just your religous affilitation.


Okay. Who is ‘there’? (Definitely wasn’t referring to all Arabs) Then something about Muslims. I don’t know whether someone made about them comment earlier, but you’re aware that these exist, right? Muslims =/= Arabs.


Well if you bothered to read it, you would have seen me talking about states like Egypt and Syria, that's who "there" is.

and yes I'm aware Arab Christians exist, well, what's left of them.
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Postby Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 9:18 pm

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Atheris wrote:Words can be evidence, too. It's called "testimony".

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a formal written or spoken statement, especially one given in a court of law.


You know, I'm so happy you say that, because I have this cute little quote here for you.


"I'm not saying a whole group of people are, to clarify, im stating that certain nations and their government structures and large portions of their populations are."

You also said

"Yeah actually I do considering the Arab slave trade is still going on with Africans, and have you seen how the Arabs treat the Kurds?"

You're committing what would be called "perjury" in a court of law, and what we call "backtracking" in non-boring, non-legal terms.
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Postby Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 9:21 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
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You brought up examples, I brought up more examples. You immediately argued against and disregarded my examples. That leaves it really hard for me to believe you think racism is worth calling out everywhere.


You do understand that the racial violence in places like the USA or west in general vs places in the middle east and africa are like.....not even remotely on the same scale or level right?


Never said they were, but in the spirit of "[racism] worth calling out everywhere" there's no reason to dismiss or overlook racism in our own backyard because you think its worse elsewhere.
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 03, 2020 9:22 pm

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Heloin wrote:If you want to try and use my personal beliefs to somehow disqualify what I say I'll bring up the fact that I'm actually qualified to talk about this short of crap.


Well, I'm certainty happy you feel qualified, I really am, are you also qualified to re-read my post where I clarified my position or are you going to continue to cry racism?

I do like the argument that you can't possibly be racist since I'm in the IWW. It's a pisspoor argument and shows that you don't have one but I find it pretty funny at least.

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Postby SangMar » Sun May 03, 2020 9:24 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
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Okay. Who is ‘there’? (Definitely wasn’t referring to all Arabs) Then something about Muslims. I don’t know whether someone made about them comment earlier, but you’re aware that these exist, right? Muslims =/= Arabs.


Well if you bothered to read it, you would have seen me talking about states like Egypt and Syria, that's who "there" is.

and yes I'm aware Arab Christians exist, well, what's left of them.


Once again, you’re backpedaling. You didn’t define any nations except very briefly talking about Saudi Arabia. Then you flipped to talking about “there nations” - so obviously not talking about Saudi Arabia anymore. Unless they control more than one country now?

Face it, you’re acting a tad racist.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:24 pm

Atheris wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
You know, I'm so happy you say that, because I have this cute little quote here for you.


"I'm not saying a whole group of people are, to clarify, im stating that certain nations and their government structures and large portions of their populations are."

You also said

"Yeah actually I do considering the Arab slave trade is still going on with Africans, and have you seen how the Arabs treat the Kurds?"

You're committing what would be called "perjury" in a court of law, and what we call "backtracking" in non-boring, non-legal terms.


Well first off this isn't a court room or a trial so I don't understand what dimension your in right now.

second off, that was before I clarified my statements and intentions. Please do your research.
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Postby Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 9:24 pm

Heloin wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Well, I'm certainty happy you feel qualified, I really am, are you also qualified to re-read my post where I clarified my position or are you going to continue to cry racism?

I do like the argument that you can't possibly be racist since I'm in the IWW. It's a pisspoor argument and shows that you don't have one but I find it pretty funny at least.

It's like he doesn't realize that it's possible for two things to be not related.
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Postby Ankenland » Sun May 03, 2020 9:44 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:And Britain's shitty treatment of all people non-British.


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Postby Ankenland » Sun May 03, 2020 9:49 pm

Kannap wrote:there's no reason to dismiss or overlook racism in our own backyard because you think its worse elsewhere.

If anti-racist culture is useful, then:
racism can be unlearned, then:
societies with anti-racist culture (the West) will have less racism than traditional ethnocentric ones like China and Saudi Arabia, then:
some societies (countries, national populations, peoples) are more racist than others.

It's either that, or all societies are equally racist, in which case, anti-racist culture will never succeed in reducing racism.

Pick. One.
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Postby Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 9:50 pm

Ankenland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:And Britain's shitty treatment of all people non-British.


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would be a shame if someone committed genocide after genocide, starved the people, ruined the economies, made lasting ethnic and cultural issues, lead to the rwandan genocide, lead to the italo-abyssinian war, lead to the rise of ISIS...
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun May 03, 2020 9:52 pm

No, ofcourse Nazis aren't racists.

We have anti-Nazis in government and no Nazis, so nothing Nazis do can be racism. Institutionally we're an anti-Nazi society, so it's literally impossible for Nazis to be racist to anybody. You just don't understand what racism is according to top tier academics.
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Postby Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 9:54 pm

Ankenland wrote:
Kannap wrote:there's no reason to dismiss or overlook racism in our own backyard because you think its worse elsewhere.

If anti-racist culture is useful, then:
racism can be unlearned, then:
societies with anti-racist culture (the West) will have less racism than traditional ethnocentric ones like China and Saudi Arabia, then:
some societies (countries, national populations, peoples) are more racist than others.

It's either that, or all societies are equally racist, in which case, anti-racist culture will never succeed in reducing racism.

Pick. One.


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Postby Kowani » Sun May 03, 2020 10:11 pm

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Rojava Free State wrote:And Britain's shitty treatment of all people non-British.


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That’s odd. I remember proving to you, that Africa had written language.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.
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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Sun May 03, 2020 10:24 pm

Heloin wrote:
Atheris wrote:Nice cherry pick. You could make a career out of this!



His racist what?

Nazeroth's insistence that Arab identity and culture is racist is actually racist, surprise surprise.

I wouldn't say Arab identity is necessarily racist but a lot of Arab countries have massive problems with racism.
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 03, 2020 11:14 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:
Heloin wrote:Nazeroth's insistence that Arab identity and culture is racist is actually racist, surprise surprise.

I wouldn't say Arab identity is necessarily racist but a lot of Arab countries have massive problems with racism.

Which is true. There's a large difference between pointing out flaws and issues in a culture and society which is a good thing to do and declaring that society and culture to be inherently racist which is what Nazeroth was doing even if he doesn't think he was.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon May 04, 2020 2:01 am

Ankenland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:And Britain's shitty treatment of all people non-British.

-snip-


I don't think people have a problem with the infrastructure, hospitals or technology so much as the resource exploitation, killings and loss of independence.

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Postby Lanoraie II » Mon May 04, 2020 3:50 am

Presumably yes, if they identify as such. Kind of hard not to be on at least some level. Granted, there is a very niche corner of the nazism community that is very anti-genocide. I've run into those types before. I've even met LGBT nazis. :unsure:
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon May 04, 2020 4:36 am

Ankenland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:And Britain's shitty treatment of all people non-British.


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Thousands of people starving in India, bloody Sunday etc. I think we had a conversation before about British atrocities but you're kinda repetitive.

Oh just for your information, none of the africans asked Britain to come build them roads anyhow.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon May 04, 2020 4:39 am

Kowani wrote:
Ankenland wrote:
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That’s odd. I remember proving to you, that Africa had written language.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.


Ankenland is the same guy who thinks the Greeks today are Turkish hybrids because they're brown colored and ancient Greek pictures show some people with blonde hair. #1 there is still plenty of blonde greeks and #2 if you think one painting proves ancient greeks were all blonde, you must also think that the average anime character proves that all Japanese teenage boys are big and ripped and dress like an edgy train conductor.

Don't try and argue. He wants to continue to push the idea that black people are monkeys and he won't let reality get in the way of his narrative about the inferiority of lesser races.
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Postby Diahon » Mon May 04, 2020 4:40 am

Ankenland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:And Britain's shitty treatment of all people non-British.


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going good things doesn't automatically mean you're a good person, yo, never mind a good set of people

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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon May 04, 2020 4:42 am

Britain: *throws Afrikaaners in a concentration camp*

Also Britain: LoOk aT aLl ThE gOoD tHiNgS wE dO.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon May 04, 2020 4:49 am

https://historycollection.co/10-atrocit ... y-books/5/

Just a list of all the "good things" Britain has done over the years.
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