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by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 8:53 pm

by Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 8:54 pm

by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 8:55 pm

by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 8:56 pm
Atheris wrote:Nazeroth wrote:
Well considering your a syndicalist prescribing to the IWI, your views on what is or is not racism can hardly be trusted.
Your just as likley to call a run of hte mill conservative a nazi, so meh.
That's an ad hominem fallacy and just flat out wrong. I've seen Heloin debate, and as much as I don't subscribe to her ideology, she's not like the American left that calls Trump a Nazi every time he breathes.
These are signs you're losing the argument. Stop. You've lost.

by SangMar » Sun May 03, 2020 8:56 pm

by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 8:57 pm
SangMar wrote:
My man, you’re racist. You used Iran? (And no, saying that you’re aware they’re Persian doesn’t count) to criticise Arabs as a whole. You can complain, but not all Arabs are racist or treat workers like shit. I mean, hell - look at Oman. Mostly an ethnically Arab country. Do you know how many people from there joined ISIS?
I’ll give you a hint, and hopefully you’ll understand from here on that you can’t pin down an entire ethnic group as one thing or the other.
The hint is:
0. A fat fucking zero out of 2 and a half million people.

by Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 8:58 pm
Nazeroth wrote:Atheris wrote:That's an ad hominem fallacy and just flat out wrong. I've seen Heloin debate, and as much as I don't subscribe to her ideology, she's not like the American left that calls Trump a Nazi every time he breathes.
These are signs you're losing the argument. Stop. You've lost.
It's not a personal attack, it's her beliefs which absolutely matter in regards to what is and isn't racist.
If a Nazi comes on here, you hold them to their beliefs do you not?

by Heloin » Sun May 03, 2020 8:58 pm
Nazeroth wrote:Atheris wrote:That's an ad hominem fallacy and just flat out wrong. I've seen Heloin debate, and as much as I don't subscribe to her ideology, she's not like the American left that calls Trump a Nazi every time he breathes.
These are signs you're losing the argument. Stop. You've lost.
It's not a personal attack, it's her beliefs which absolutely matter in regards to what is and isn't racist.

by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 8:59 pm
Atheris wrote:Nazeroth wrote:
It's not a personal attack, it's her beliefs which absolutely matter in regards to what is and isn't racist.
If a Nazi comes on here, you hold them to their beliefs do you not?
"You're just as likely to call a run-of-the-mill conservative a Nazi" Is an ad hominem attack. You're criticizing Heloin as a person, not the argument you're actually debating her with.
And, yes, I'd honestly like to witness a lively debate with a Nazi.

by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:00 pm

by Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 9:03 pm
Nazeroth wrote:Kannap wrote:
Like America's historically treatment of people of color, and Israel's treatment of Palestinians, and America's complicity in the treatment of the Kurds
Black Americans have it better than the vast majority of Black Africans and enjoy way more rights and oppurtunity in the United States, regardless of what leftist propaganda would spout
Israel and Palestine have been killing eachother forever, it's a non issue
We do not owe the Kurds a damn thing nor are we at there beck and call.
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy

by Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 9:05 pm
Nazeroth wrote:Heloin wrote:Criticising actions of groups and problems in a culture: Not Racist and not what you're doing.
Declaring a whole group of people to be racist and everything about them to be racist: Really, really racist and it's what you're doing.
I'm not saying a whole group of people are, to clarify, im stating that certain nations and their government structures and large portions of their populations are.
i'm sorry this pisses you off and you almost take it personally.
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy

by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:05 pm
Kannap wrote:Nazeroth wrote:
Black Americans have it better than the vast majority of Black Africans and enjoy way more rights and oppurtunity in the United States, regardless of what leftist propaganda would spout
Israel and Palestine have been killing eachother forever, it's a non issue
We do not owe the Kurds a damn thing nor are we at there beck and call.
Ah, racism is only worth calling out when its Africa and the Middle East. Gotcha

by SangMar » Sun May 03, 2020 9:06 pm
Nazeroth wrote:SangMar wrote:
My man, you’re racist. You used Iran? (And no, saying that you’re aware they’re Persian doesn’t count) to criticise Arabs as a whole. You can complain, but not all Arabs are racist or treat workers like shit. I mean, hell - look at Oman. Mostly an ethnically Arab country. Do you know how many people from there joined ISIS?
I’ll give you a hint, and hopefully you’ll understand from here on that you can’t pin down an entire ethnic group as one thing or the other.
The hint is:
0. A fat fucking zero out of 2 and a half million people.
did you miss the part where I clarified my exact stance? would you like a quote?

by Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 9:08 pm
Nazeroth wrote:Kannap wrote:
Ah, racism is only worth calling out when its Africa and the Middle East. Gotcha
It's worth calling out everywhere, though, as i stated, racial violence is far worse in many places, such as Africa and the Middle East
Of course I also think it should be brought up more often since it seems to be ignored.
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy

by SangMar » Sun May 03, 2020 9:08 pm
I know I did.
by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:09 pm
SangMar wrote:Nazeroth wrote:
did you miss the part where I clarified my exact stance? would you like a quote?
No thank you, you can try and backtrack all you like. You’ve already made comments claiming to the effect that Arabs as an ethnic group are entirely racist - tarnishing them all with the same brush. So suddenly going, “I meant the governments, sorry guys,” doesn’t really do it for me.

by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:11 pm
Kannap wrote:Nazeroth wrote:
It's worth calling out everywhere, though, as i stated, racial violence is far worse in many places, such as Africa and the Middle East
Of course I also think it should be brought up more often since it seems to be ignored.
You brought up examples, I brought up more examples. You immediately argued against and disregarded my examples. That leaves it really hard for me to believe you think racism is worth calling out everywhere.

by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:13 pm

by Atheris » Sun May 03, 2020 9:14 pm
Nazeroth wrote:SangMar wrote:
No thank you, you can try and backtrack all you like. You’ve already made comments claiming to the effect that Arabs as an ethnic group are entirely racist - tarnishing them all with the same brush. So suddenly going, “I meant the governments, sorry guys,” doesn’t really do it for me.
ah so no evidence just babbling, got it, thanks.

by Nazeroth » Sun May 03, 2020 9:15 pm
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