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Are all Nazis racists?

Postby Nap the Magnificent » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:01 pm

Nazism, or National Socialism if you prefer, is of course an ideology with many beliefs and tenets. Chief among them however is the idea of the superiority of the so called Aryan race, specifically the Nordic subrace; that it is their destiny to rule over others. However we know many people pick and choose which parts of an ideology to follow sometimes to bizarre levels. So that leaves the question: Is it possible for someone to believe in all the other tenets of Nazism but not the superiority of the Aryan race and still remain a Nazi? Or is that particular belief so central to Nazism that in order to be genuine Nazi you must believe in it? In other words, are all Nazis racists?

I believe in order to be a genuine Nazi you most adhere to the idea of so called Aryan superiority and therefore, yes, all Nazis are racist. What say you, NSG?
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Postby Sundiata » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:10 pm

Yes.

It's not just a racist ideology but blatantly Anti-Christ. An evil scourge that runs contrary to Christ's message and commandment to "Love your neighbor as yourself."

I strongly oppose it as everyone should, especially every Christian.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:27 pm

Bro. They're Nazis. Racism comes with the job.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:33 pm

Nah im sure some of them wana have big multicultural and multi race families and communities.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:38 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Nah im sure some of them wana have big multicultural and multi race families and communities.


Yeah man, didn't you hear about that new Gay Black Jewish Nazi Commune that got set up in Saskatchewan? I hear it's all the rage with LGBT groups, Communist parties, and Joe Rogan.
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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:44 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Bro. They're Nazis. Racism comes with the job.

I would agree, although I acknowledge I'm making a sweeping generalization about all members of a group.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:46 pm

now now, nap. Nazi's are part of a different culture from you. you must be tolerant of their beliefs! dont want to be a bigot in this day and age!
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Postby Andsed » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:47 pm

I mean their Nazis. Maybe not all members are totally morally bankrupt racists but the ideology they support is racist as fuck.
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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:50 pm

Andsed wrote:I mean their Nazis. Maybe not all members are totally morally bankrupt racists but the ideology they support is racist as fuck.

But that is the question: can they actually be Nazis if they aren't racist?
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Postby Andsed » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:56 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:
Andsed wrote:I mean their Nazis. Maybe not all members are totally morally bankrupt racists but the ideology they support is racist as fuck.

But that is the question: can they actually be Nazis if they aren't racist?

I am defining being a Nazi as believing and supporting Nazism and it's tenants. Tenants that are profoundly racist. What else would you call someone who believes and supports racist ideas?
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:00 pm

I guess, maybe, someone could technically be a Nazi and not be racist. If they just didn't care about all the racism, atrocity and murder and were just in if for the uniforms and perks of the job.

It's pretty much an absolutely racist ideology though, so I don't think one could be a Nazi and not at the very least pay lip service to their bigoted goals.

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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:10 pm

Andsed wrote:
Nap the Magnificent wrote:But that is the question: can they actually be Nazis if they aren't racist?

I am defining being a Nazi as believing and supporting Nazism and it's tenants. Tenants that are profoundly racist. What else would you call someone who believes and supports racist ideas?

A racist, though my position is already that all Nazis are racist.
Albrenia wrote:I guess, maybe, someone could technically be a Nazi and not be racist. If they just didn't care about all the racism, atrocity and murder and were just in if for the uniforms and perks of the job.

It's pretty much an absolutely racist ideology though, so I don't think one could be a Nazi and not at the very least pay lip service to their bigoted goals.
Fair enough but if they aren't adherents of the ideology I wouldn't say they are Nazis. They might be members of the party but are not ideologically Nazis.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:14 pm

It does stand to reason if we are going to define Nazis as only the true believers, then yes, by default they would most likely all have to be racists due to the way the Nazis viewed the world. Can't have a Master Race in an ideology and it not be inherently racist.

I think I just technically broke the 'All X are Y rule' but since it's a fairly reasoned take, I think I'm safe. :)

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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:18 pm

Albrenia wrote:
I think I just technically broke the 'All X are Y rule' but since it's a fairly reasoned take, I think I'm safe. :)

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Postby Pythaga » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:30 pm

Nationalism on its own isn’t racist. When you take it too far however, it becomes Nazism. In my mind nationalism to the point of racism is simply Nazism. There is no way for Nazism to be not racist, unless you remove the hyper-nationalism, at which point they become little more than your standard run of the mill socialists.

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:33 pm

i dunno, i'd hate to generalize people based on nothing but the well known and explicitly defined tenets of the ideology they publicly claim they subscribe to
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Postby Geneviev » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:44 pm

The ideology is inherently racist, fascist, anti-leftist, and anti-Semitic. There's a good chance that anyone who agrees with it will be all of those things.
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Postby Tokora » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:58 pm

Even brought down to as pragmatically as possible it still calls for, at minimum, the displacement of the slavic people. The little stunt know as the holocaust really doesn't help their case either.

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:15 pm

I mean, yeah.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:19 pm

Nazism is specifically set around the idea of Aryan superiority. The Nazis divided the world into races with the Aryans on top of the totem pole, and even created a hierarchy within the Aryan race, with Nordics on top and Mediterranean on the bottom. The nazi goal was to purify the nordic race by breeding Meds with Nords in order to breed out any genetic impurity, and then to forcefully segregate the rest of mankind from the Aryans and kill of several races that they deemed to be too undesirable to live, those being the Jews, the Gypsies and the Slavs. A non-racist nazi is like a communist who supports private property. They don't exist. Nazism is an inherently intolerant ideology. It's a damn shame the beliefs of Adolf Hitler didn't die on the beaches of Normandy.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:20 pm

In my experience the defining trait of true nazism, even before racialism, is radical antisemitism.

In the through nazist worldview the jews are, contrary to popular belief, not "subhuman" but rather something like David Icke's reptiloids.

Even though most wouldn be properly able to articulate that kind of belief since it's simply too far out there. But thats what Hitler actually believed, even though even he lacked the words for it.
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Postby Ginicun » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:22 pm

in my experience, no, some of them just want ethnostates.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:23 pm

Ginicun wrote:in my experience, no, some of them just want ethnostates.

That sounds like a racist thing to me.
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