MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Anti Defense League]

First, explain to me how you know my thoughts. As I said, maybe you need to read that again.

So why are you OK with slashing the military budget purely to feed Trump's ego rather than to fund actually worthy causes?

Again, how does one come to such a conclusion? You should read it again.

[Vassenor]

So why are you OK with slashing the military budget purely to feed Trump's ego rather than to fund actually worthy causes?

Again, how does one come to such a conclusion? You should read it again.

Well then maybe you should explain what exactly you were completely OK with.

[Anti Defense League]

Again, how does one come to such a conclusion? You should read it again.

Well then maybe you should explain what exactly you were completely OK with.

I'm completely okay with cutting the Navy's funding.

[Vassenor]

Well then maybe you should explain what exactly you were completely OK with.

I'm completely okay with cutting the Navy's funding.

Hence my comment about why you were OK with that cash going to a Trump vanity project rather than say to education or actual infrastructure.

[The Rich Port]

A ton of people who support or supported Trump knew ahead of time that he was racist (like myself) but this was never a flaw but rather a feature. Now it just isn't enough. Even though there likely won't be another President who'll be of like mindedness on this, he's just been too disasterously bad for the country to where it'd be irresponsible to continue backing him. There is just too little upside to be had in the midst of everything declining or having collapsed. He failed completely on Coronavirus which in turn wrecked the economy more than had to be the case.

Donald Trump on record as being classist or in favor of housing discrimination in a July 29th tweet:

"I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood. Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down. I have rescinded the Obama-Biden AFFH Rule. Enjoy!"

Your lack of integrity, basic logic, and self-awareness is inspiring as always and exemplary of the average Trump supporter's justifications for any nonsense reasons they had for supporting him in the first place. Thanks for shifting the United States towards corporate fascism.

Pardon the dust and vomit.

An apology is appreciated but of course not expected.

[Anti Defense League]

I'm completely okay with cutting the Navy's funding.

Hence my comment about why you were OK with that cash going to a Trump vanity project rather than say to education or actual infrastructure.

No, you should read it again. Perhaps you just didn't comprehend it?

[The Rich Port]

Hence my comment about why you were OK with that cash going to a Trump vanity project rather than say to education or actual infrastructure.

No, you should read it again. Perhaps you just didn't comprehend it?

To be fair, your ideology appears to lack cohesion AND coherence, so.

[Anti Defense League]

No, you should read it again. Perhaps you just didn't comprehend it?

To be fair, your ideology appears to lack cohesion AND coherence, so.

I don't see how?

[Vassenor]

Hence my comment about why you were OK with that cash going to a Trump vanity project rather than say to education or actual infrastructure.

No, you should read it again. Perhaps you just didn't comprehend it?

So you're just going to keep hiding behind "you didn't read it right" rather than actually explain what you meant.

[Saiwania]

Your lack of integrity, basic logic, and self-awareness is inspiring as always and exemplary of the average Trump supporter's justifications for any nonsense reasons they had for supporting him in the first place. Thanks for shifting the United States towards corporate fascism.

I didn't in that I've never actually voted for Donald Trump, being that in 2016 I was certain that Hillary Clinton was going to win and that Trump was hijacking the GOP as a troll candidate who wasn't serious. Every vote I've ever casted, has been for the losing candidate thus far.

What did wind up happening however, was that the longer Trump was President, the more I liked his reign (up to a certain point). But other stuff Trump would do turned me off of supporting him (such as being so wedded to fossil fuels and being so opposed to renewables like wind energy among other things/scandals) and the mishandling of the pandemic and collapse of everything is the final straw where I can't really justify siding with him anymore, in spite of how great he is on immigration or race from my perspective.

The problem was never Trump's supposed hatred/bigotry or exclusionary vision for the US but rather, the fact that he's incapable of governing and constantly makes the worst decisions across the board. Past a certain point, the negatives far outweighed any positives to be had for me.

Sure, I don't want immigration from non-White countries, but that is hardly worth maintaining if global warming is allowed to keep happening and the temperatures keep getting hotter than would be the case under a president who gets the science far better and is pursuing the right solutions rather than the wrong ones. That problem is existential, but its just being ignored.

As much as I like having a supposedly more bigoted president, having a collapsed economy is far more painful than having a president who is for diversity but is actually handling the pandemic enough for the economy and life in general to recover. What we currently have as POTUS is just a dumbass, or someone who is living in the past or is deluded on many things. I can't deny or ignore it anymore. Trump might have dementia, we just don't know. Perhaps it is because Trump never got any sleep (he is rumored to brag about staying awake for insane amounts of hours that normal people can't sustain).

A valid interpretation of Trump's tweet on housing is that he possibly thinks the housing situation in the country is still like in the 1960s when he and his dad would deny rentals to Blacks. For Trump, maybe those were the glory days that he remembers most and is effectively still living that whilst the reality is starkly different. For the suburbs anyway, it is no longer exclusively White. Most of the women are working and won't identify as housewives. I don't see his message resonating. He is just desperate and flailing at this point and nothing can seemingly save him. Every action he's taking is sinking himself even more.

People can only take so much, even amongst those who'd want to defend a Trumpist platform. They may as well conclude- "hell with this jerk, he deserves to lose and will. We can't have 4 more years of this fool." On the flipside, there is no reason to back Biden for those who aren't inclined to support him to begin with, other than him maybe being "not as bad" in terms of projected outcomes.

[Anti Defense League]

No, you should read it again. Perhaps you just didn't comprehend it?

So you're just going to keep hiding behind "you didn't read it right" rather than actually explain what you meant.

I literally can't simplify it anymore for you. It's on you at this point.

[Vassenor]

So you're just going to keep hiding behind "you didn't read it right" rather than actually explain what you meant.

I literally can't simplify it anymore for you. It's on you at this point.

Nor can I. So are you going to explain why you're OK with the money being taken from the military going to Trump's vanity projects rather than things that actually need the investment or are you just going to keep hiding behind "I didn't mean that with this vague statement I will not explain" as a deflection?

[Anti Defense League]

I literally can't simplify it anymore for you. It's on you at this point.

Nor can I. So are you going to explain why you're OK with the money being taken from the military going to Trump's vanity projects rather than things that actually need the investment or are you just going to keep hiding behind "I didn't mean that with this vague statement I will not explain" as a deflection?

Are you actually going to read what I said or continue to show inability to do so? Hiding behind bluster smh.

[The Archregimancy]

A ton of people who support or supported Trump knew ahead of time that he was racist (like myself) but this was never a flaw but rather a feature. Now it just isn't enough. Even though there likely won't be another President who'll be of like mindedness on this, he's just been too disasterously bad for the country to where it'd be irresponsible to continue backing him. There is just too little upside to be had in the midst of everything declining or having collapsed. He failed completely on Coronavirus which in turn wrecked the economy more than had to be the case.

Donald Trump on record as being classist or in favor of housing discrimination in a July 29th tweet:

"I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood. Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down. I have rescinded the Obama-Biden AFFH Rule. Enjoy!"

Your lack of integrity, basic logic, and self-awareness is inspiring as always and exemplary of the average Trump supporter's justifications for any nonsense reasons they had for supporting him in the first place. Thanks for shifting the United States towards corporate fascism.

Pardon the dust and vomit.

An apology is appreciated but of course not expected.

The above post is borderline. In a lot of cases I would give an informal stern wag of the finger and tell the poster to tone things down.

But you've built up quite a record in the last couple of years for this type of borderline mild flaming/baiting, and we're increasingly unwilling to let you continue to think this is acceptable.

So *** warning for flaming ***

Remember, attack the argument, not the poster.

[Zurkerx]

Trump and his company could be under investigation for bank and insurance fraud, Manhattan DA Vance reveals. The investigation is squarely focused on the Hush Payment, but since they're seeking a decade's worth financial documents, it is possible they will also look into fraud and other sorts of financial crimes. Given the Supreme Court ruling, Trump's not immune to investigations and it's likely a lower court will rule that Mazars and others will have to comply with the subpoenas.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Trump and his company could be under investigation for bank and insurance fraud, Manhattan DA Vance reveals. The investigation is squarely focused on the Hush Payment, but since they're seeking a decade's worth financial documents, it is possible they will also look into fraud and other sorts of financial crimes. Given the Supreme Court ruling, Trump's not immune to investigations and it's likely a lower court will rule that Mazars and others will have to comply with the subpoenas.

Can't wait for the contempt of court cases. <.>

[Tombradyonia]

Trump and his company could be under investigation for bank and insurance fraud, Manhattan DA Vance reveals. The investigation is squarely focused on the Hush Payment, but since they're seeking a decade's worth financial documents, it is possible they will also look into fraud and other sorts of financial crimes. Given the Supreme Court ruling, Trump's not immune to investigations and it's likely a lower court will rule that Mazars and others will have to comply with the subpoenas.

Can't wait for the contempt of court cases. <.>

I for one can't wait for the indictments on 1/21/2021

I know, not likely, but one can hope.

Barr is top of the list for me, this guy probably needs a blanket pardon to escape investigations. Then again, he'd have to be indicted before 1/20/2021 otherwise he can't be pardoned to begin with.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Barr is top of the list for me, this guy probably needs a blanket pardon to escape investigations. Then again, he'd have to be indicted before 1/20/2021 otherwise he can't be pardoned to begin with.

That man needs to be arrested for instigating thousands of cases of kidnapping, assault and battery.

[Vassenor]

So how about that Axios interview, huh?

[Gravlen]

So how about that Axios interview, huh?

And by that interview, you mean this interview.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

So how about that Axios interview, huh?

And by that interview, you mean this interview.

"I wanted to shut it down in January but they wouldn't let me" ...
Trump thinks diagnosed cases of covid includes "kids with runny noses"

[Cannot think of a name]

So, fourteen or fifteen petty bullshit things ago when Trump refused to do an unveiling or hanging of Obama's portrait...

What a shitty spot that Biden is going to be in. Obviously he'll hang it when he takes office (assuming all goes well), but then eventually there'll be the obligation to hang Trump's portrait. If he doesn't, then at that point we've set a new shitty standard where the portraits are only hung by the next president from your party, the right thing to do is be the 'bigger man' so to speak and hang the damn portrait. Thus validating the world's shittiest person. What a weird, dumb situation.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

So, fourteen or fifteen petty bullshit things ago when Trump refused to do an unveiling or hanging of Obama's portrait...

What a shitty spot that Biden is going to be in. Obviously he'll hang it when he takes office (assuming all goes well), but then eventually there'll be the obligation to hang Trump's portrait. If he doesn't, then at that point we've set a new shitty standard where the portraits are only hung by the next president from your party, the right thing to do is be the 'bigger man' so to speak and hang the damn portrait. Thus validating the world's shittiest person. What a weird, dumb situation.

Put the portrait in a cupboard/some infrequently used room. <.>

[Cannot think of a name]

And by that interview, you mean this interview.

"I wanted to shut it down in January but they wouldn't let me" ...

"So then I refused to do anything else and continuously downplayed the threat of the virus and blamed Democrats for creating the hoax about the very real threat and only in the last few weeks even come around to the idea of masks. Leadership!"

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

"I wanted to shut it down in January but they wouldn't let me" ...

"So then I refused to do anything else and continuously downplayed the threat of the virus and blamed Democrats for creating the hoax about the very real threat and only in the last few weeks even come around to the idea of masks. Leadership!"

The only appropriate responses to Trump seems to be "what the actual fuck" these days...