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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:33 am

Aureumterra wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I mean im a nationalist i can do that


Though im more of a leftwing nationalist so i will substitute fatherland for motherland, and throw in some slogans about anti imperialism and the brits being at it again.

Leftwing nationalists>Rightwing globalists

Im not a hardcore nationalist though so i cant commit full time to the old Nationalist Propaganda thing. 2-3 days at most per week.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:37 am

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If only people would realised that fascism sucks even more than unfettered capitalism.

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That is not where the general trend is going at all.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:47 am


…It’s like-Sunday morning Cartoon villains with these people.
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Postby Vapormancer » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:10 pm

Kowani wrote:

…It’s like-Sunday morning Cartoon villains with these people.


Vanity Fair's story is very nice but it is light on sources. The reality is far darker. We could not set up such a testing plan even if we wanted to. This government can no longer enforce order or the laws so long as one claims your righteous protests spreading the disease are for saving black lives. Furthermore, we have the industrial apparatus of a third world country functionally speaking. We can't make sterile cotton swabs in bulk. That is how pathetic and enervated our industry is. But this is a much much better narrative than the truth and if the 1619 lady has taught us anything, it is that the only truth that matters is the one which is published.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:23 pm

Vapormancer wrote:
Kowani wrote:…It’s like-Sunday morning Cartoon villains with these people.


Vanity Fair's story is very nice but it is light on sources. The reality is far darker. We could not set up such a testing plan even if we wanted to. This government can no longer enforce order or the laws so long as one claims your righteous protests spreading the disease are for saving black lives. Furthermore, we have the industrial apparatus of a third world country functionally speaking. We can't make sterile cotton swabs in bulk. That is how pathetic and enervated our industry is. But this is a much much better narrative than the truth and if the 1619 lady has taught us anything, it is that the only truth that matters is the one which is published.

Well, most of this is true.
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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:35 pm

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Kowani wrote:…It’s like-Sunday morning Cartoon villains with these people.


Vanity Fair's story is very nice but it is light on sources. The reality is far darker. We could not set up such a testing plan even if we wanted to. This government can no longer enforce order or the laws so long as one claims your righteous protests spreading the disease are for saving black lives. Furthermore, we have the industrial apparatus of a third world country functionally speaking. We can't make sterile cotton swabs in bulk. That is how pathetic and enervated our industry is. But this is a much much better narrative than the truth and if the 1619 lady has taught us anything, it is that the only truth that matters is the one which is published.

Apparently large gatherings are only bad if it’s Trump supporters, black lives matter protests are fine. And they say their side supports science
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:36 pm

Vapormancer wrote:
Kowani wrote:…It’s like-Sunday morning Cartoon villains with these people.


Vanity Fair's story is very nice but it is light on sources. The reality is far darker. We could not set up such a testing plan even if we wanted to. This government can no longer enforce order or the laws so long as one claims your righteous protests spreading the disease are for saving black lives. Furthermore, we have the industrial apparatus of a third world country functionally speaking. We can't make sterile cotton swabs in bulk. That is how pathetic and enervated our industry is. But this is a much much better narrative than the truth and if the 1619 lady has taught us anything, it is that the only truth that matters is the one which is published.


So let's see your sources then, since you complained about the article being light on them. Or are you just scrambling to save your narrative?
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:37 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
Vapormancer wrote:
Vanity Fair's story is very nice but it is light on sources. The reality is far darker. We could not set up such a testing plan even if we wanted to. This government can no longer enforce order or the laws so long as one claims your righteous protests spreading the disease are for saving black lives. Furthermore, we have the industrial apparatus of a third world country functionally speaking. We can't make sterile cotton swabs in bulk. That is how pathetic and enervated our industry is. But this is a much much better narrative than the truth and if the 1619 lady has taught us anything, it is that the only truth that matters is the one which is published.

Apparently large gatherings are only bad if it’s Trump supporters, black lives matter protests are fine. And they say their side supports science


You mean like the science saying the protests haven't lead to spikes?
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:38 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:Apparently large gatherings are only bad if it’s Trump supporters, black lives matter protests are fine. And they say their side supports science


You mean like the science saying the protests haven't lead to spikes?

I have a PhD and a Nobel Peace Prize in Science, and I can assure you, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with people for hours is still a transmission risk, even with all other conditions optimal.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:41 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:Apparently large gatherings are only bad if it’s Trump supporters, black lives matter protests are fine. And they say their side supports science


You mean like the science saying the protests haven't lead to spikes?

Mind linking the studies?
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:46 pm

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Vassenor wrote:
You mean like the science saying the protests haven't lead to spikes?

Mind linking the studies?


"BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS, SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND COVID-19"

Furthermore, we find no evidence that urban protests reignited COVID-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset. We conclude that predictions of broad negative public health consequences of Black Lives Matter protests were far too narrowly conceived.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:59 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You mean like the science saying the protests haven't lead to spikes?

I have a PhD and a Nobel Peace Prize in Science, and I can assure you, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with people for hours is still a transmission risk, even with all other conditions optimal.

…You realize the “Nobel Peace Prize in Science” isn’t a thing.

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Neutraligon wrote:Mind linking the studies?


"BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS, SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND COVID-19"

Furthermore, we find no evidence that urban protests reignited COVID-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset. We conclude that predictions of broad negative public health consequences of Black Lives Matter protests were far too narrowly conceived.

Oh, now that’s interesting.
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Postby Vapormancer » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:00 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Vapormancer wrote:
Vanity Fair's story is very nice but it is light on sources. The reality is far darker. We could not set up such a testing plan even if we wanted to. This government can no longer enforce order or the laws so long as one claims your righteous protests spreading the disease are for saving black lives. Furthermore, we have the industrial apparatus of a third world country functionally speaking. We can't make sterile cotton swabs in bulk. That is how pathetic and enervated our industry is. But this is a much much better narrative than the truth and if the 1619 lady has taught us anything, it is that the only truth that matters is the one which is published.


So let's see your sources then, since you complained about the article being light on them. Or are you just scrambling to save your narrative?


You mean that we are pathetic and can't make what we need en masse? Or did you mean the ongoing protests as proof civil authority can not or will not enforce lockdown orders for ideological reasons despite the spread? I can provide your proof but if I go out of my way, will you just pretend that what I quote isn't saying what it is saying as you did last time? I don't want to put in effort if you won't engage in good faith.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:01 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Mind linking the studies?


"BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS, SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND COVID-19"

Furthermore, we find no evidence that urban protests reignited COVID-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset. We conclude that predictions of broad negative public health consequences of Black Lives Matter protests were far too narrowly conceived.

LOL

Did you read this study?

It basically says "Yes, protestors likely spread covid-19, but because it made normal people shetler more away from the protests, it was counteracted by non protestors. This effect was increased in protests that involved violence, as it increased sheltering behavior by those not in the protests."
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:02 pm

Kowani wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I have a PhD and a Nobel Peace Prize in Science, and I can assure you, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with people for hours is still a transmission risk, even with all other conditions optimal.

…You realize the “Nobel Peace Prize in Science” isn’t a thing.


Oh, now that’s interesting.

I mean, basically, it scared non protestors into staying home more. This effect was stronger when the protests turned violent.
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Postby Vapormancer » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:03 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Mind linking the studies?


"BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS, SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND COVID-19"

Furthermore, we find no evidence that urban protests reignited COVID-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset. We conclude that predictions of broad negative public health consequences of Black Lives Matter protests were far too narrowly conceived.


Edit: Lol Gallo read it, well done lad.

Proctopeo wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You mean like the science saying the protests haven't lead to spikes?

I have a PhD and a Nobel Peace Prize in Science, and I can assure you, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with people for hours is still a transmission risk, even with all other conditions optimal.


Ah yes, also it is well done when you are screaming in that crowd without a mask on. Very very good hygienic behavior.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:07 pm

Kowani wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I have a PhD and a Nobel Peace Prize in Science, and I can assure you, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with people for hours is still a transmission risk, even with all other conditions optimal.

…You realize the “Nobel Peace Prize in Science” isn’t a thing.

That was part of the joke, thank you for noticing.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:09 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:…You realize the “Nobel Peace Prize in Science” isn’t a thing.


Oh, now that’s interesting.

I mean, basically, it scared non protestors into staying home more. This effect was stronger when the protests turned violent.

Hey, if it works, it works. Mind you, they do note that it’s possible that among a specific demographic-protesters-the risks of Covid-19 might be higher, but there’s no actual data on that, which is something I’d like to see investigated at some point.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:14 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:I mean, basically, it scared non protestors into staying home more. This effect was stronger when the protests turned violent.

Hey, if it works, it works. Mind you, they do note that it’s possible that among a specific demographic-protesters-the risks of Covid-19 might be higher, but there’s no actual data on that, which is something I’d like to see investigated at some point.

I’d like to take this opportunity to note the lifesaving power of hurricanes.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:22 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:Hey, if it works, it works. Mind you, they do note that it’s possible that among a specific demographic-protesters-the risks of Covid-19 might be higher, but there’s no actual data on that, which is something I’d like to see investigated at some point.

I’d like to take this opportunity to note the lifesaving power of hurricanes.

...What?
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:24 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:I’d like to take this opportunity to note the lifesaving power of hurricanes.

...What?

If we got a hurricane, it would make people largely stay home and social distance. Which would save lives.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:25 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:...What?

If we got a hurricane, it would make people largely stay home and social distance. Which would save lives.

…No, it destroys homes and leaves people unable to social distance.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:25 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:...What?

If we got a hurricane, it would make people largely stay home and social distance. Which would save lives.


Let's not forget that a bunch of Floridians wanted to group up and shoot hurricane Irma.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:29 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:If we got a hurricane, it would make people largely stay home and social distance. Which would save lives.

…No, it destroys homes and leaves people unable to social distance.

Depends how strong the hurricane is. (Cat 3 and above are probably bad)
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